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Who's ready for some Sunday! Sunday! Sunday! rip-roarin' Hallmark Films entertainment?! I know I am... not. I feel bad for Winona Ryder and everything for having to be in this, but a Hallmark movie about the marital problems of the founders of Alcoholics Anonymous and Al-Anon sounds somehow even harder to watch than the Jack Kevorkian movie I just endured.
There are much better things on opposite When Love is Not Enough tonight, but I still thought you should know it was happening. You'll at least know what the hell is happening when Winona Ryder gets an Emmy nomination and for it, and who knows, It might even be a bar trivia question eventually. Just looking out for you, as always.
When Love Is Not Enough: The Lois Wilson Story airs on CBS tonight at 9 PM, opposite The Celebrity Apprentice, Desperate Housewives, The Pacific, The Tudors and The TV Land Awards (hosted by Tim Allen! Oh yay!).
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Mindy -
You'll revisit this when you're able to empathize. It's only a matter of time before it shows up somewhere in your family. Good to learn you watched the Jack Kevorkian piece and are stepping into deeper layers of your humanity.
I agree 100%. As a person in recovery and who works in recovery my hope is that Mindy never has to go through what Lois and my family went through and if they do I pray that they find what these 2 people, along with others, created.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but really until have had to know someone who is in AA or goes to Alnon why dont you just keep your comments to yourself. Maybe this hallmark movie will some families. So how about you just watch something else!
To bad you are in denial as to the dysfunction in your life, your families lives and the world in general. Maybe get out from behind that computer and look at reality! Alcohol is affecting all people whether it is the person or having lived closely with an alcoholic 3-4 generations ago, and those rules that applied are the ones you live by today. Please open your eyes and broaden the tunnel vision.
She's making fun of Hallmark, not alcoholics.
Anything that gives hope to anyone, anywhere resulting in their putting down a drink or drug, or getting help to escape this terrible disease should be applauded, not "snarked" Hallmark or not.
This is a website devoted to snarking on entertainment. Don't like it? Go to a meeting.
Im sure that most people will be watching Desperate Housewives or something as socially meaningful
For those of us living her story in the present it's comforting to know that sometimes there is a light at the end of the alcoholic tunnel
Its such individuals as you, whom I wish had a program! Open minded...such a gift. Will say a pray for you that you never have to encounter or deal with this fatal disease. Just because you can't see it on an x-ray, MRI, or whatever else they have...doesn't mean its not real, and real people need hope..God Bless the Wilsons.
I'm a recovering alcoholic and I plan to watch this, but I still think that some of y'all need to lighten up.
I think it's a wonderful thing, that these two people formed programs to help those afflicted. However, I also understand what Mindy was saying... that it's a heavy-duty subject, and given Hallmark also likely to be melodramatic, and therefore difficult to watch, especially if she just finished watching another TV-movie on another heavy-duty subject (Kevorkian and euthanasia). She's snarking that she's not in the mood for another show like that. She didn't insult any program or those who suffer from alcoholism. She's talking about TV and whether or not people might be interested in watching that particular story. Ordinarily, I might find it relatively interesting, and I do like the actors involved... however, I have enough stuff going on in my own life right now that I'm not in the mood for something heavy like that. So I appreciated finding out what the subject matter of the TV movie was and that it was unlikely to be something I'm able to watch right now. Ease up, people.
I am loking forward to watching a sucess story about people who love and support each other and have made the world a better place. Entertaining as the other shows may be (and I have watched most of them) cheating, back stabbing, beating someone else down, killing, and making hamburger out of our young men does not leave me thinking about what I can do to make this world a better place. I will watch those shows next week! LOL
I'm an AIDS advocate, but I find Philadelphia incredibly difficult to watch. I've been a counselor for survivors of sexual assault, but I find movies like Boys Don't Cry and The Accused incredibly difficult to watch. Neither of those things make me a bad person, and Mindy's statements don't make her a bad person. Not wanting to watch a heart-wrenching biopic about the founder of Alcoholics Anonymous and AlAnon isn't equivalent to disrespecting those programs!
How is it that Mindy always ends up blogging on a topic that make people ready to pounce? Last week it was Adam Lambert and this week Al-Anon... really, are there other bloggers on this site that get half the comments/vitriol hers receive?
Snarking just to be snarky? OK. I get it now. Never mind. I was just searching for a meaningful review. Didn't really need Mindy to tell me the subject was going to be heavy. That's why we also have Dancing with the Stars and American Idol.
could be awkward watching celebrity apprentice while real life brett michaels has a brain hemmorage. just sayin....
based on Mindys defensive and negative reaction to When Love is Not Enough...seems definite that she may have drinking issues herself....(a "bar trivia question", seems like an odd thing to say) Do yourself a favor an TIVO it....you may actually get something out of it! Im glad they had the guts to air it!!!
also it seems Mindy is a bit simple -minded, since the program is about what Alcoholism does to families....and not simply about "marital problems"...like the initial posters wrote, I hope noone has to endure such pain, but at the same time the founders of AA were amazing people and have made a solution available to alcoholics and their loved ones....
These comments are beginning to sound like Yahoo's. We used to have more intelligent posters. Mods?
It is also a reality check for those of us who is living it and not knowing what to do about it or where to turn.
I agree, it may just help one person. That one person may be someones father, brother, mother sister, friend...then how many lives does just that one person really affect....
Pity for Winona Ryder? Better things on? How is this Mindy Monez and what YMCA-prep school did she attend? Her writing is atrocious, her thoughts bland, and--what's most regrettable---she doesn't seem to know it, or care. Perhaps she should spend more time "snarking" about attending a Community College some day rather then showcasing her pervailing ignorance on the Internet?
As a grateful member of AlAnon of many years I made a note to watch it. i just wish my teenage children were interested in watching it as well...They lived some of it. Interesting how it is not interesting for them.
WOW! A bar trivia question? REALLY? Spoken like a true uneducated person about the disease of alcoholism. It's a pity you didn't learn anything frm watching it.
I'm in the movie. I'm the one walkign witht he little boy down the staircase. I bump into her on the stairs when shes all sad.
There's always something different or "better" on TV, but I am glad they finally have made a movie about Lois, AA and Al-Anon. As a recovering alcoholic I feel love of one self is always enough . . .
Me, too! I am da litle boy on th stare kase!
Boo to the comments of brainwashed AA followers.
Isn't it fascinating that the "Lois Wilson Story" is really all about Bill? Once again the cult leader grandstands to such a degree that nothing about Lois that doesn't pertain to Bill is allowed to show through.
As someone who spent 10 years in AA, you don't need to know any of this tripe to help someone recover from alcoholism.
The depiciton is this film of alcholism is actually mild compared to real life. No one knows what it's like until they lived it. Wores than heroin addiction...
Boo to the comments of brainwashed AA followers.
Isn't it fascinating that the "Lois Wilson Story" is really all about Bill? Once again the cult leader grandstands to such a degree that nothing about Lois that doesn't pertain to Bill is allowed to show through.
As someone who spent 10 years in AA, you don't need to know any of this tripe to help someone recover from alcoholism.
This is great movie. As a recovering alcoholic and my wife an al-anon member, this movie hits very close to home.
My husband has been sober for only 6 weeks. It is so unbelieveable to find yourself with a spouse that is an addict. It is so very hard to loose your best friend to a disease. It is so crazy how it makes your life unhealthy too. The family memebers just don't get through it unscathed. It causes us to have fallout from the lies and deceit and trust issue that develop. I must say that I'm astonished at how realistic this portrayal is. I'm sure there are others out there watching this & realizing that they are not the only ones who are or have gone through this. I've been through the cycle twice now and have real doubts about whether things can ever be different. Right now he's doing it without AA or NA and I've been wondering...what is it that would make the difference? I think this movie is completely appropriate right now & I'm glad it's on.
I think that this is the best thing on TV tonight. How can anything you watch compare to this heartbreaking story! You would have to live in midst of such struggles to understand. And for someone to say its not worth watching is unfair. How obtuse and selfish of you! It is wonderful this was to watch and to know how it all began! And your comment regarding BAR TRIVIA when mentioning a movie about ALCOHOLISM is beyond trashy!
I can't wait to watch this tonight! I read the story 1 1/2 years ago in my struggle with my alcoholic husband. Mrs. Wilson inspired me to help myself. My beloved husband died nearly 1 year ago at age 35 due to his alcholism. I know it will be hard to watch tonight. I HOPE it will help someone out there like me to find out more about alcoholism, AA and Al-Anon. Be inspired and help yourself. RIP Jeffrey 5-20-09
This article really got my blood pressure up because it is ignorant at best. What really got me going though is someone who "SPENT" hmmm, obviously no longer sober, badmouthing AA. Seriously, Bill W. was an alcoholic, just like the rest of us. He was a philanderer, liar, cheater, thief, just like the rest of us and just like the rest of us it was all about him. Think of him what you will, but without that selfish; lying; sack of no good cr*P - I WOULD NOT BE SOBER TODAY. SO, THANK YOU BILL, LOIS, DR. BOB AND HALLMARK HALL OF FAME. AND GOD BLESS MINDY AND SARAH AND EVERYONE ELSE TONIGHT AND THANK YOU FOR ONE MORE SOBER DAY.
Wonderful movie - so thankful that Lois stayed long enough to see it to the other side and to forage a road for all of us who follow in her footsteps. I would never fault her or anyone for leaving sooner - I just thank God for Al-anon!
The main issue isn't the snark of this post about the movie, but that the movie was TERRIBLE. Not to mention that Hallmark apparently didn't feel the need to show Bill's womanizing, his clinical depression, and billed this as the wife's love is was brought him to sobriety.
I feel like the movie's omission of the real story made the couple really disingenuous to me. It also is irritating that they covered the 12 steps in detail, but didn't really cover the specifics of Al-Anon beliefs and policies.
It's a shame because I didn't know anything about what this movie was about and just started watching it after TAR and I feel like I didn't really get the full story.
We all can be helped by coming to the realization that there are things we cannot do by ourselves but with God's help - we can.
I was not in the mood to watch this movie since I have lived through a similar situation. I invited my husband to watch it with me. He's been sober for almost 2 and a half yrs. now, second time around. I still have difficulty accepting the idea that it is a disease because of how selfish it is. Winona did a great job showing how you lose yourself. Realizing the loss gives you the strength to make those difficult decisions that detach. I know watching this movie helped so many people.
Er, I get that this is a topic on which people feel deeply, but this is a website called Television Without Pity. If you get upset by snark in connection with a particular topic, that's fair enough, but stay away from articles on a snarky website. These comments were clearly directed at (a) Hallmark's tradition of Worthy but often overly-schmaltzy films, and (b) Winona Ryder, who is a well-paid actor and can probably take the pain. And who probably will be the topic of a bar quiz question...The net offers ample opportunity to discuss alcoholism elsewhere, kindly leave those of us (in or out of AA) who want to snark about tv to our wicked (but clearly-signposted) ways.
Further thought...Interesting comment from Barbara, that's been my problem with a lot of Hallmark movies. I got a much better understanding of addiction from Marian Keyes's comic chick lit "Rachel's Holiday", say, than from a dozen Uplifting Movies like this one, precisely because it made its addict human and complicated and it wasn't taking itself too seriously. The Nollidge snuck in under the laughter...
I completely agree with you. Great post.
Because the first step is admitting that you have no sense of humor.
I just want to know who ran off to an AA support site after reading a preview of a terrible Hallmark movie and raised the red flag that someone, somewhere, had disrespected their cause.
I personally tuned out of the movie after about ten minutes, fearing that subjecting myself to it any further would drive me to drink.
Wow, who knew that when you stopped drinking, you lost your sense of humour. Then again maybe a lot of you fell off the wagon since you don't understand how to post comments only once.
No comments at all on Pepper's performance? He of sniper fame in Private Ryan? I thought it was solid--not great--but certainly solid and believable. Ryder, recovering herself from that nasty shoplifting conviction at Saks in Atlanta, did a fine job, too.
As to the movie's overall intent, my heart goes out to all those wives and husbands who have suffered the anquish and pain of alcoholism. It's a heartbreaking disease. Yet AA has given millions of us recovering alcoholics a chance to lead happy and joyous lives. And Al Anon enables its suffers the same thing. Hard to explain unless you're IN IT! Most people think the alooholic is the only crazy or irrational one; yet ask yourself whether Lois lacked sanity in agreeing to travel cross country in a motor cycle side car! Would you? It's called co-dependency, among other things.
I must say I was a bit disappointed in the quality of the movie. It didn't get you "into it". I don't know about filming, but it seemed too much like I was just watching... which I was, but, I don't know, .. maybe it was the angle of the shots or the acting or whatever, but I felt distanced from the scenes, not there, not invested. Despite the over acting, I liked the scene where the husband, coming into the AA meeting, was uncomfortable that his wife might be talking about him with the other wives in the kitchen. Common,ego threatening, self centeredness of some alcoholics. Bill's answer about the spouse of an alcoholic being affected (made "sick") by the drinking should really should have been the heart of the movie. That was where Lois' contribution began! Even if your loved one never stops drinking, Al-Anon can help you find serenity. Otherwise, you become as crazy as the drunk! The twelve steps are virtually the same for both groups. It is often said that people go to AA to stay sober and then they come to Al-Anon to get better. It is a wonderful program for your own personal growth. Check it out. www.al-anon.alateen.org
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