Aaaarrrrgghhh..... a part of me just died a little.

What the HELL ... ?

Grrrrr

Someone is wearing their Bad Idea Jeans today!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

If it's not from Joss, it's NOT BUFFY!!

I am not a fan of this. Not one bit.

If you're going to do a remake of Buffy, then you should do a remake of Buffy. If you want to do a creepy action movie about a girl who kills vampires, just make that.

By 're-imagining' Joss Whedon's creation without any of the things that made the character (even in that god-awful movie) -special-, you're not really honoring the creative product. Even the new Star Trek had the good grace to be respectful of its source material. Obviously not true in this case, since Kuzui and her gang have already shown an amazing lack of respect for it during the first go-round.

As rich as the Kuzuis got off the TV franchise, I can't believe they're this willing to crap where they eat.

Did I really just witness TWoP alluding to Daveigh Chase in "S. Darko" as evidence of her acting? as opposed to her turn in the actual original movie? you chose the barely acknowledgable so-called remake? If you wanted to cite her in something creepy, why not note that she actually WAS the creepy dead girl in the Ring, meaning that Roy Lee already knows her.

This is like the concept of a Star Trek reboot not only without Gene Roddenberry and William Shatner, but also without Spock, Bones, Scotty, Uhura, The Enterprise, or Star Fleet.

IOW, it makes no sense whatsoever. Just make an Anita Blake Vampire Huntress movie instead because that's about as "BtVS" as this remake sounds.

That's it, Zach. I am not writing another HIMYM weecap for you to edit, at least until fall.

This is not a good idea. I can never get behind this, unless it has Joss Whedon attached to it. Epic Fail.

I knew the "remake" fad was only one bad idea away from jumping the shark, but this would definitely cross that line.

It's funny; if the story was "former Buffy the Vampire Slayer co-producers Kaz and Fran Rubel Kuzui have agreed to collaborate with Asian horror-remake King Roy Lee to come up with an original, vampire-themed action franchise," I think reaction would have ranged from "meh" to "cool."

Doing it this way means reaction ranges from "no" to "F___ no."

That's it. I'm done. Tell my mom I love her.

UGG of all the directors they get the WORST!!! The REmake of those movies STUNK!! Now take the director of the original Audtion..now that would be Twisted

I would buy it more if they picked someone other than Buffy herself. A predecessor, perhaps, or successor (discounting the ending of the TV show). Another character that can still be a hot teen fighting vampires, but isn't already done better than anyone else can manage.

All I can say is No...just no.

Hey, why not? It couldn't be a bigger mess than the last three seasons of Buffy. And after eight years of Buffy and Angel, the old team probably doesn't have any new ideas left.

I just threw up a little in my mouth. Wrong wrong and wrong.

Is there any possible way to influence the direction this will take (if it truly, unavoidably must happen, like a train wreck).

Please, please, please, no.

Um, Brody, the 90's movie WAS Joss'!

First post ever here @TWOP.

No Joss, no Sarah, no way!

If they do this, Joss will get his revenge.

Ever since Topher made the crack on Dollhouse about how they were going to "store people's souls in little jars with all the other fireflies," I've been 100% sure that if Dollhouse lasts long enough to allow for some pure fun, Topher will find a reason to program Echo with a personality and skillset that will be extremely familiar to fans of the Buffyverse. The ep would be called "five by five." I just KNOW he's going to do this. Which will just remind everyone how utterly pointless a Buffy reboot would be.

I didn't think it was possible to hate Twilight for rebooting the vampire franchise in all the wrong ways....but there it is.
Seriously? The original movie was terrible! The tv show WAS the remake, and it remade it brilliantly. We don't need a remake of a remake! Seriously, GET SOME ORIGINAL IDEAS AND STOP STEALING ALREADY WELL-EXECUTED ONES!

Agreed - no way I pay money to see this.

Give me a movie with Buffy, Spike, Willow, etal, including Joss, and I'm there.

A faux Buffy? I think not.

It's kinda amusing the buffy media thread is far less angry over this. Yes there's anger, but less than here.

Personally I think the way they are going about this is a potential P.R. disaster. You need a fan base support for something like this.

That being said a chance to see a Buffy who isn't whiny and perhaps a little more competent.

I'd be interested to see what they would do with the movie's original conceit, (I'm not sure if it was Joss' conceit originally or it got changed.) That the Slayer and the Watcher are the same people reincarnated, as opposed there being dozen or hundreds of potentials.

According to the current season 8 canon vampires are beings of regret and no longer soulless killing machines, so I'm not sure I can say that current Buffy is even the same thing as early TV Buffy anymore.

If that's the case why not let someone see what they can do with it.

Opinon is slightly divided, but a lot of people say that Star Trek the franchise got a lot better when they were able to work around and past the heavy restrictions Gene Roddenberry set about how everyone should get along all happy like.

Who's to say the same can't be said for Buffy?

I'm not thrilled and don't have high hopes given the people behind it, but I won't outright condemn it.

Oh dear god no.

They may as well decide to do another Indiana Jones movie, only without Harrison Ford, and Indiana doesn't know history and is fine with snakes and doesn't wear a hat or use a whip or ever say anything witty. And never found the ark or went to the Temple of Doom or found the holy grail. (Or whatever with the aliens, I can live without that one, lol.)

While we're at it, let's have a new Die Hard without Bruce Willis (but still with McClain), a new Rocky without Stallone...and how about a "Friends" movie with other people playing Joey, Chandler, Ross, Rachel, Monica, and Phoebe?

seriously, I understand how so many of you are horrified at the idea of a Buffy reboot. But the TV series itself was a reboot. And the fact is that Buffy was such a popular and succesful character and franchise that it is inevitable that someone else would eventually want to play with it. Somebody above asked why they couldn't just make a Dracula movie if they wanted to do vampires. For many people, Bela Lugosi is the only true Dracula. That doesn't keep thousands of producers and writers from messing about with the character themselves, including ironically Joss Whedon on the Buffy series. We are just going to have to bite our tongues and remember that whatever travesty of a Buffy film they make is not going to damage the TV show's reputation any more than the original movie did.

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Joss and Company's writing, along with fabulous acting was what made the series. Unlessthey bring a whole new crew and a new Slayer, I can't see it. Either way, what appealed to people about the show will be missing.

To quote from Chandler... "My brains are all over that wall."

I am absotively horrified. Is nothing sacred in Hollywood!?

WHY!? WHY!?? WHY!!!????????

Yes, that's the same thing. Because it's been 30 years and Buffy is totally outdated now.

NO! It's not "BtVS" with Joss. Don't do it, Epic FAIL!

sigh, I'm not a big Joss groupie but this idea is just begging for failure. How many "re-imagings" does Hollywood have to subject us too before they realize that most of the time they fail. I still cringe when I think of the "Wild, Wild West." I couldn't bring myself to sit thru the "Mod Squad" and "Miami Vice." I know folks love the new Galactica but I found it way too depressing. I think I'm one of those few that enjoyed both the Buffy movie and the series but I kept in mind that they were two separate entities.

Oh hell no.

I agree with Terry - if you need to remake Buffy, why not make it one of the old Slayers? It even would have the advantage that the audience knows their destiny is to die, so you might actually believe they might die at any time (or at least, die defeating the bad guys). Hell, make it Nikki Woods, who had to balance being a Slayer with being a mom.

I don't think the people making this really see it as a reboot or even a remake; they're just taking a title that they like and using that as a "start-a-story" to make up their own thing (think "Cheaper by the Dozen"). They can do this because the original(s) frankly don't matter. I loved the series (and tolerated the movie) just like everyone here--but far, far more people in the viewing public never watched a single episode. THAT'S the audience that the producers are going after, not the cult fans--because, by definition, there aren't enough of us to make a hit. Plenty of pre-existing fans are going to see the movie anyway, just out of curiosity or so they can say how bad it is; for the movie to make big money it has to appeal to the masses, who don't know Angel from Oz and only expect SMG and the Scoobies in an actual Scooby Doo movie.

The worst idea I've ever heard. and that's saying something

Past or future Slayer but not Buffy herself. Like Trek, re imagining the vision takes time. Not enough has really pasted. But in the case of Star Trek, there is a franchise to emmulate. Buffy/Weadon has created a substantial universe. Why limit creativity to something so Iconic when if you want to make something that "takes Buffy to a 'new place'" then start everything there. There is less scrutiny on continuing the saga then there is on recreating it.

[quote]If you're going to do a remake of Buffy, then you should do a remake of Buffy. If you want to do a creepy action movie about a girl who kills vampires, just make that.

By 're-imagining' Joss Whedon's creation without any of the things that made the character (even in that god-awful movie) -special-, you're not really honoring the creative product. Even the new Star Trek had the good grace to be respectful of its source material. Obviously not true in this case, since Kuzui and her gang have already shown an amazing lack of respect for it during the first go-round.

As rich as the Kuzuis got off the TV franchise, I can't believe they're this willing to crap where they eat.[/quote]
Word.

Also, re: a creepy, depressing horror flick
1. We've seen The Wish
2. We've seen the UPN Years.

Without Buffy Summers and the Scoobie gang - you couldn't PAY me to go watch this nonsense.

No way. No how. Not happening.

If they are looking for vampire hunters to ruin - take a shot at Anita Blake - you couldn't do any more harm than LKH has done already. If you want to pick up decent heroines - Rachel Morgan is still up for grabs, as are Mercy Thompson and Dante Valentine.

Just no Buffy. No Buffy without SMG and Joss. And the Scoobs. Not for another 30 years. And maybe not even then.

A new Buffy movie? That's the kind of wooly-headed liberal thinking that leads to being eaten!

Oh, this is so disappointing. Does no one have a single original idea such that everything once fresh must be remade? Joss, Sarah, Alyson Hannigan, Nicholas Brendan all MADE the show the cult favourite it was. You can't always recreate artistic chemistry.

I was immediately like, WHAT? But then I started opening my mind. Then I read "Megan Fox." Now I want to go bury myself under the covers for days.

NUMFAR!!! Do the Dance of Shame!!!

This is a HORRID idea that should be abandoned. "A vague disclaimer is no ones friend" (willow)

Oh, the wrongness.

Nooooo, please no!!!! Don't do this!!! Not without Joss!!!! :(

Um, sorry for posting the same comment_seven_times. Yeesh . . .

Ditto wwbd--the last 3 seasons were good and yes great even. Bring on the potentials.

Now to hit "submit comment" once and once only.

No. It can't happen.

Those news suck beyond the telling of it.

Imagine how hard it would be to explain to people what the real BTVS is.

No Willow, Xander, Giles, Spike? No Joss Whedon? No SMG as Buffy?

No. No. No. It can't be done.

How can we stop that apocalypse?

A real life Monkey's Paw. *shiver*

No no no no no no no....I'm having flashbacks to the movie. I wonder if Fran saw the sucess of the Star Trek, and decided to get on the bandwagon. Greed will talk people into stupid situations. Hey! Let's do Firefly reboot without Joss.

correct me if i'm wrong but i do believe they've already confirmed that they are NOT making the movie about Buffy. it's about another vampire slayer, but in the same buffy universe.

The first thing that really comes to mind is pure *sigh* :/, because Joss Whedon is my absolute hero, and he is the total embodiment of all things Sunnydale. *iquoteangel* So to do a remake of the MOVIE which was not successful, WITHOUT Joss, and with the producer of the origional film, (AND without the characters of Spike, Willow or Xander) seems insane. But, saying all that.. Having the movie re-made, with a completely different vibe, reborn as something else, also seems like a good idea to me. I just want the story to keep on. I mean, it's been six years now, since the show was off air, and over ten years since the origional movie was made. The actors (Sarah Michelle Gellar, Alyson Hannigan, Nick Brendon, Tony Head, James Masters) won't go back into that world again, so I think the only way (apart from the comics Joss & team are currently writing) to keep that story going, is with a re-make. But then I just wonder what Joss thinks about it all o.o I mean.. His first words were "I hope it's cool." & that doesn't sound like he's really happy about it.. I'd have thought he'd have more to add.. :/ I mean.. if it turned out he was offended by having HIS world re-made, maybe I don't want it to happen o_o! So I guess I'm still pretty torn. iudgsahjoihds BAH!
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Ok we have been begging, BEGGING, for a movie or another tv series with or without buffy. a spike/illyria movie, a giles or faith show, anything anything. some have been content with a series of comic books, but that does nothing for me. but this reboot is horrible news. let them do it alone, but then someone please give joss some money to make a movie related to the actual show. we don't need a rehash of a horrific movie, we need something new.

You what I hate about all of this is that THIS piece o shite is the Buffy a new and wider audience are going to be introduced to. That kills me. Buffy is Whedon's words and Gellar's face. This is pretty much the worst thing that could happen to the franchise as far as I am concerned...Kuzuis and all.

I'm hoping ot God Twentieth Century Fox can do something about this bull.

Ok, if they do this I know I will not see it. I have only once ever bought a tv series dvd, and that was several seasons of Buffy. (I buy them as I can afford them.) Buffy is Sarah Michelle Gellar. It is not Buffy without the Scoobies. And if there was to be a movie it would have to follow the timeline of all the slayers having been activated! You can't recreate Buffy and think fans are going to willingly watch it without that.

argh!

Buffy is Whedon's character, whether we are talking about the movie that took his original concept & butchered it or the show where he got to be closer to his vision. Thankfully we have the comics but where are you going to go with this crap? I agree, make up a random movie with slayers but don't mess with anything that has to do with the Whedonverse

To those suggesting the movie makers look to Anita Blake, check this story from last March: "IFC is teaming with Lionsgate for a TV movie based on the 'Anita Blake: Vampire Hunter' books." http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/03/ifc-anita-blake-vampire-hunter.html#more

Vampires are hot again & Roy Lee has been looking for a good vampire franchise; most of the good ones have been taken. Gosh, Buffy is for sale! (Or for rent--perhaps the real owners of the Dollhouse have been discovered.)

Joss & the original Buffy/Angel crew are mostly busy now. I'd love to see what he could come up with, someday. Adventures of Other Slayers? Sure--with the right talent.

If the Kuzuis are the creative talents behind a new film, I predict release direct to DVD. Followed by release for overseas markets--where it will be promptly bootlegged!

No no no no no no nooooooooooo. This is a world of fail just waiting to happen.

I think they should let Joss do a Fray movie.

As much as I think this is basically the worst idea ever, I'll probably go to see it.

Joss Whedon fans should attack the premiere. With rocket launchers. Because that's how we roll.

Whedonites are batsh*t insane (in the best way possible) and will NOT let this happen. I mean, they alone got Dollhouse renewed because they scared Fox into bringing it back (fearing that canceling it would create another Firefly situation). I think this is a perfect example why you don't mess with Joss. His fans will ruin you if you don't comply with his and their demands.

Hey sure, why not? They made Coke "better" and America loved it! And who can forget "Euro-Disney?" That's great, too! And polyester? It's as good as silk!

I say let no-talent hacks have a go at a masterpiece. What could go wrong?

Another thought. If someone wants to capitalize on the "vampire craze", why has the Christopher Pike series, The Last Vampire, never been tapped? His vampire mythology was new but not so obnoxious (not like Twilight, ugh).
I really, seriously refuse to spend money on a new Buffy. Not the way the Kuzuis want to do it.

Umm, Brody, I think you may be confused. Whedon wrote and pitched the original Buffy script, which Kuzui frankensteined (much to our delight) into the original film. Fortunately, Joss had the opportunity to continue developing the storyline with the TV series half a decade later.

Unless that's what you meant by remake. Something tells me NOT.

Dear Kuzuis and Lee:

If you want to make a movie that capitalizes on Buffy fans, SEND JOSS A PAYCHECK and give him oversight.

Otherwise, grab the money you would have spent on this movie and send it through an industrial-grade shredder.

Is it really that difficult to understand? Joss IS everything we love about Buffy. Take that away and you've got nothing.

Read someone else saying the film probably will go on the route of Underworld or Resident Evil, make me sicker about the idea. It's like a nightmare, my fav tv show turning into RE, It's the thing I fear most (that and twilight stuff)

a failure beyond belief

Buffy without Joss... hmm let me think .... WHAT A HELL , it's the same thing that the movie without all the "principal caracteres" buffy has a story if you want to do a movie whit it you need to follow the "moove" and only josh can imagine the movie ..
people sometimes are lame .

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Hope this a success, if only for these whiny lame Whedonites to eat some shiit. Get over it, Whedon is good but not great (certainly not the hack that Abrams is). Buffy only really 2 or 3 classic seasons, the rest were ok or crap. Same as Angel. And Firefly was ok, not a cancelled too soon before it's time classic. Then again, I liked it better when it was called "Oulaw Star".

Buffy is like a member of my family. I have seen every single episode of Buffy and Angel. I am delighted anytime one of the Scoobies guest on a show and Sarah Michelle Geller makes a movie a must see. I can cite lines and give descriptions of episodes just by hearing their titles. I want a life size Spike cut out and an Angel the Vuppet doll for Christmas. Each and every character...from Willow and Cordy to Fred and Gunn are precious to me. I want to be Faith. (without the bloodlust!) This article makes me feel like crying.

The "fans" boycotted the Wolverine movie, and that opened #1 at the box office and the studio is scrambling to give it a sequel and its own spinoff. Enjoy raging, nerdos.

I'm still waiting for the Angel movie that was promised.

Have you ever heard JW give an interview? I commend any studio that leaves him out of a process. The guy may be a good idea man, but he always seems completely cloying and out of touch in interviews. He isn't just self deprecating. He is self doubting to a ridiculous degree. I feel they are doing the right thing. Joss is not a god. Not even a lesser imp. Just a confused immature man.

if you want to make a movie about a girl who kills vampires, do that, but don't use Buffy. Buffy has been done and done fantastically by Joss. Don't try to capitalize off the name because we all know it will just be a disappointment. maybe do a future slayer after Buffy, but why stain the story we all love as is.

Seriously? No Angel or Spike? Count me out!

Personaly i just dont think fans of buffy and joss or any of the characters/acters in the tv series that arent being used in the new film will like this idea. i also think that Daveigh Chase reminds me of Dawn summers in the show so im not sure Daveigh wud wrk out

No SMG, No Joss, No Alyson, No Nick, No A.S.Head, Forget it, No Movie !!!!.
Anything else would'nt be a BTVS movie.

There's so much wrongness in this I don't even know where to start.

While I'm a huge Whedon fan (yeah, I've even watched every ep of DOLLHOUSE), I'm actually not too upset about this, for one reason: assuming they keep to the more feministy angle that Whedon took, this movie/franchise will be the perfect antidote to helpless Bella of "Twilight."

THANK YOU. I thought I was the only one cringing at S. Darko (and not for the intended reasons).

Blech.

Also -- in general -- I'm not knocking a brunette version of Buffy but wanted to add a bit of trivia -- in the tv series they almost cast Charisma Carpenter as Buffy and SMG as Cordelia. Consider the strange ramifications of THAT alternate universe.

I can't even imagine what plot they could come up with for the rebooted Buffy movie. If we're in the established Buffy-verse...

Long-shot guess:
Roy Lee's remakes tend to be based on a basic plot progression -- Protagonist discovers strange things happening to/around them, feel haunted, investigate catalyst event that started eerie trend, make horrifying discovery about the past/source of haunting and works to free self of haunted trappings.

Translated into a Buffy story, would this not be a rebooted version of teen girl discovering she is the Chosen one?

In a darker version, I expect more "tension" to be established, meaning that she would be without a support group (no Scoobies, no Watcher...she would have to research the phenomena herself). And how is a teen to do that? And where would this occult information even BE?

It might mean a return to the prophetic dreams movie and tv Buffy had...about being attacked and fighting off monsters until, what, she's ACTUALLY attacked?

My brain (what little of it remains) hurts.

I just don't get it. I can't imagine what their intentions are for a revisioned Buffy.

I mean, what new angle could there be? Shy, nerd-like girl realizes she has supernatural powers to fight off the undead of ________? Brash, sassy-mouthed Scene kid discovers deeper purpose to her existence?

See, it's unthinkable. And the things you do think of -- are really rather disgusting.

Outside a movie version of the first season story arc (Buffy confronts her own death and the Master) -- and, in its own way -- revisioned original Buffy movie plot, I don't see WHAT they can do here.

Mrar. Might as well have Nancy from The Craft realize she's the Slayer while bemoaning the loss of Manan and her powers.

CRAZINESS. (But I DO love Fairuza Balk. :-P)

This doesn't make any sense, when is this suposed to take place. In the movie she found out she was a slayer and the show happened rite after the movie and rite after that there is now the comic book series. I don't think this going to be a movie about buffys drive from la to sunnydale and it can't be between the tv show and the comic book because it would have to be with willow and xander and etc. THIS DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE

If you're going to do a movie called "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" I want the original cast and crew, especially Joss. I would like it sooner rather than later so the actors haven't aged very much.
If you aren't going to do anything like that, then give it a few years and call it a different name.
Also, if you use Kristen Stewart there's a good possibility that many fans will shoot themselves.

why make a movie when the fans could read the comic books that joss is making? but, i did read somewhere that they want to make a new buffy movie so that they could like introduce a new generation to her or something like that. if there is going to be another buffy movie, sarah is not going to play her. she has already stated that. and kristen stewart, WILL NOT PLAY BUFFY! she can stay in twilight where she belongs, but she is not playing buffy.

There will never be another smg for the movie of buffy the vampire slayer but lets be for real she might not want to do the movie or the rest of the scooby gang, but they really should consider summer glau for the movie she isn't blond and i think the actor has untapped potential that some of her roles just didn't do her justice. The franchise could do well to keeping this actor in mind with remaking the movie and potential remake of the show.

just letem finish the damn show i 'd rather have the same characters but obviously ego's and prior commitments are preventing that i'll settle for a true ending to the show with a possibillity for a sequel....just f-in finish what you started.!!!!!!!!

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Omg... The world is ending. They are remaking everything. SMG in the best buffy ever. I heard they thought about Megan Fox I lost my mind. Megan Fox Might be Cordllia wait no she shouldn't be in the same sentence as buffy. I am going to die... *tears of blood*..

"Sieze the moment because tommorow you might be dead"