Quinn: "Am I getting things right so far? It's important that we're accurate."
Brody: "I'm totally off the grid right now, huh? Do you not see the irony of this?"
Quinn: "Don't be cute. Why did the torture stop, after five years? And who is Issa?"
Brody: "I told Carrie that weekend, he was just one of my guards."
Quinn: "You're somehow forgetting that Abu Nazir's youngest son was named Issa? That he was killed at his madrassa during an American drone strike?"
Brody: "No idea."
Saul, unnecessarily: "Peter Quinn is using basic interrogation techniques."
Carrie, unnecessarily: "Yes. He is using them."
Field Manual 2-22.3: 8-45. (Interrogation) The emotional-pride and ego-down approach is based on attacking the source's ego or self-image. The source, in defending his ego, reveals information to justify or rationalize his actions. This information may be valuable in answering collection requirements or may give the HUMINT [human intelligence] collector insight into the viability of other approaches...
Quinn: "In your original debrief you said you never met Abu Nazir. Yet according to Carrie Mathison's addendum, you and he were quote 'sitting in a tree.' Explain?"
Brody: "She's lying. I guess because she is a loon, and because she's obsessed with me."
This approach is effective with sources who have displayed weakness or feelings of inferiority. A real or imaginary deficiency voiced about the source, loyalty to his organization, or any other feature can provide a basis for this technique.
These are facts. But they're not the truth.
Quinn: "You converted to Islam?"
Brody: "Lie, see above re: lying liars named Carrie."
Quinn: "Okay, how come Tom Walker shot Elizabeth Gaines on December 17?"
Brody: "I'm guessing he was going after VP Walden. And just missed his target."
Quinn: "See, I think maybe it was to trigger Secret Service protocols and get everybody down in the State Department panic room without security checks. 27 of the richest and whitest of the rich white guys that run our entire world. All in there with you. Plus a bomb."
Brody: [Runs through another set of denials of everything we just talked about.]
That's when Quinn plays the tape.
"My name is Nicholas Brody, and I'm a sergeant in the United States Marine Corps. I have a wife and two kids, who I love. [I'll be right back.] By the time you watch this, you'll have read a lot of things about me, about what I've done. That's why I wanted to explain myself. (door closes) So that you'll know the truth. On May 19, 2003, as part of a two-man sniper team serving in Operation Iraqi Freedom..."