Back on the trail, Kate is bending down to get water, as is Rousseau. Kate studies Rousseau for a minute (yeah, that's how long I lasted in Philosophy 101, too) and states: "I told you that your daughter was living with them." Non sequiter much, Kate? Why hasn't Rousseau asked her any questions about her daughter? "Your friend Jack, you care about him, yes?" Non sequiter much, Rousseau? Kate looks wildly suspicious, squints at Rousseau, and slowly answers yes. Rousseau continues, "What if 16 years from now you found out he was still alive, but you know there is no way he remembers you or even remember that you care about him?" Kate and Rousseau stare searchingly into each other's eyes for a long, long time. Rousseau gets up and explains that she has not asked any questions about her daughter because she does not want to know the answers. I guess this answer satisfies Kate because she gets up and they join the others on the path. As they continue on their nature walk, Kate starts grilling Patch. "How did you get here?" Rousseau tells them once again not to bother because everything he says will be a lie. Patch ignores her and says that he was recruited when he was 24. "I was approached by..." Kate cuts him off because she didn't ask "when" she asked "how." Patch says he was brought on a submarine. I wonder how many privately owned submarines there are in the world? I wonder if the guy who started Ikea owns one? I would if I were a billionaire with a vast economically-hip furniture enterprise. Kate sighs, "So your people can come and go as they please, huh?" Patch says yes, until two weeks ago when their underwater signaling beacon stopped working. There was an event. Like a party? No, like an electromagnetic pulse. It would not be possible to come back. Sayid looks very interested in this tidbit. Kate, however, is scratching her head wondering why would you want to come back? Patch says that she wouldn't understand. Kate gets in his face and demands that he try her. Patch says that he misspoke. What he meant to say was that she is not capable of understanding. Why not? Because she is not on the List. What list?!

Patch starts from the beginning. The great man who brought us here was a great man, a magnificent man. Kate scoffs at this because if Ben was such a great man, why did he need one of them to save him? Patch laughs. That diaper wetter? Ben is not the great man of whom he speaks. Ben is just a so-so man, a not-so-bad man. Definitely not a great man. The camera lingers on Locke's face for a while. Patch continues to spell it out for the dunces: You are not on the List because you are flawed. You, he looks at Locke, are angry; you, he looks in the general direction of Sayid, are weak and frightened. So does that mean that Happy, Dopey, Sneezy, and Doc are on the List? Sayid snorts, the more he meets the Others the less he believes they are omniscient. Patch shouldn't talk at them like he knows them. Patch rolls his eye, "Oh yes, Sayid Jarrah, how would I know you? And you, Kate Austen, you are a complete stranger to me. But you, John Locke, you are a fleeting memory to me. But I must be mistaken because he John Locke I know was a man --" Rousseau interrupts just as we are about to get some good info on who the heck John Locke is. My phone rings. Yes? "Hey it's me, Conspiracy Theory Guy. Like, oh my god! Is Locke an Other? Is Rousseau an Other? Are Locke and Rousseau in it together? What don't they want us to know! Oh my god, I'm totally peeing my pants here!" Then I get an earful of giggling and hand wringing and jumping up and I hang up the phone to get back to the re-capping already. Rousseau wants everyone to come look at something. It is a giant field with cement poles every twenty yards or so with alarm horn looking thingies strapped to the top. Sorry, I am definitely not a gadget girl. Suffice it to say the field is big and impressive and kind of creepy.