And we're with Said and Jack. Eldridge starts with the empty kiss-ass comments about admiring Said. He slips when he says, "I've read both your books." Said smiles and corrects him, "Actually, there were three." Ally, who wants to smack her forehead for not reminding Eldridge to read the bio on Said, tells them to begin the interview. Jack does the thing he's done so far before every interview, which is to clear his throat. Noisily. It really grosses me out. These interviews are a pain in the ass to transcribe verbatim, so I'm going to give you the gist on this one. Jack basically says that Said murdered Adebisi, which Said denies, stating that he befriended Adebisi and was attacked. Then Said tries to talk about the conditions in Oz, but Jack won't let it go, asking if the attack Adebisi made on Said was unprovoked. Said admits that he did motivate it, but he is Muslim and didn't agree with his conduct. The whole interview becomes heated on Said's part and dogged on Jack's. Jack finally asks the big question of why Said moved in with Adebisi if he hated him. Said says he did not hate Adebisi; he wanted to help him. What about the video? Said attempts to change the subject, to no avail. Said gets up to leave. Ally perks that they're only trying to get the facts. Said says, "That part is over. Adebisi is irrelevant!" Jack tells him, "Nothing about death is irrelevant. You want to talk to us, fine, but you have to tell us what we need to hear first." Said: "And which part will you air?"