Back in therapy, Violet again asks if she knows how much she begged Katie not to cut him out. But when she knew she was going to do it, she told Lucas that Mommy was sorry for letting this happen, and then she let her. She helped Katie by telling her where to cut, how deep, and helping her see through the blood. She says she helped her take her baby away from her. The therapist asks Violet what could have happened to Lucas if she had cut in the wrong place, or cut too deep, or couldn't see through the blood. Violet keeps saying she could have cut him. The therapist says she helped Katie cut Lucas out to protect him, even as she almost bled to death. Violet says she chose Lucas over herself, and the therapist agrees, and says she did that again when she gave him to Pete. She tells her she saved her little boy, and Violet sobs, "I saved him?" ... Back on the stand, the judge asks her to answer the question of how many abortions she had. Violet says two, and that she had a normal amount of uncertainty about being a mother to Lucas. Frances Fisher asks her about the paternity, and she says she didn't want to know until she knew how she felt about being a mother. Frances Fisher: "And after he was born?" Violet gets angry here: "Let's get this straight! Lucas was not born. He was ripped from my body, and afterwards I was fighting for my life and my sanity, so I couldn't quite focus on who the father was." Frances Fisher asks if she doesn't think putting her own needs first was not being a good mother. She says she spent a lot of time thinking those thoughts, but now she knows that's not true and she now knows with every fiber of her being she's ready to be a good mother. She says when she wasn't ready, she gave him to the person she knew would put Lucas's life before her own. And she says it's been hard to hear her friends' concerns, but she's glad they're protective of Lucas. She says she did the work and is better, and she's ready to share in parenting, because she's Lucas's mother and no one else can say that. She smiles and cries.