Santino continues, saying that life in Missouri was hard because he was misunderstood. Maybe adding to his alienation was the fact that his mother is African-American and his father Caucasian. There couldn't have been a whole lot of other families like that in Missouri during the mid-seventies. He has always wanted to be a fashion designer and has given up a lot in order to pursue it. This all feels pretty poignant. Certainly, it confirms that a lot of his nastier behavior probably comes from an insecure place.
Santino tells the cameras that he designed a fashion line a few years back that went bust and left him destitute. Aside from the basic context of the story, there's something really sad about the way he's telling it. You can sort of sense the residual shame he's feeling about the situation. Yep, he tells Tim that he was embarrassed about his position. He adds that, at times like that, you need help.
Back in the interview, Santino tells us that he may seem arrogant, but he deals with a lot of insecurities. "If you think you have something to say about the way I look, or what I do, or what I say, or what my voice sounds like, or any of that? You can't imagine that…I've thought it and I've thought it, you know, ten times more in depth than you have." Funny, he has had someone make fun of the way he talks? That must have been really hard for him. This part is starting to bother me. I feel bad that things have been rough for him; however, we all have an opportunity to learn from the crappy things that have happened to us. Now, I'm not suggesting that Santino dedicate his life to the youth of St. Charles, Missouri or something huge like that. What I am suggesting is that Santino, with his awareness of his own insecurities and how those probably caused and still cause him a lot of pain, have a little fucking empathy. Don't sit in front of a camera and talk shit about arguably the least threatening person in the room (Diana). It's so cheap. It's like the weird kid in school making fun of another weirdo before everyone made fun of him. I can kind of forgive that kid because, well, because he's a kid, not an adult who knows perfectly well how that kind of shit can hurt. Part of me wonders if Santino assumed everyone would be talking major shit about him in their interviews, and if a lot of his smack talk was then a sort of preemptive retaliation. Otherwise, this whole moment is really frustrating.
Santino explains to Tim that, after his fashion line flopped, his friend Tony and his wife invited Santino to live with them. Tim says that their offer to help was a tribute to Santino's character. The sun sets on these two as they continue talking.