Miss Alli: That shot cracks me up every time.
Rob: That shot has been our doom with all our friends and family.
Brennan: We knew from the moment we did that shot that it was going to come off as, like, cheesy as all get out.
Rob: They wanted to do something at the law firm, you know, an establishing shot there, but of course with a hundred other lawyers, nobody's going to sign all the confidentiality waivers to allow that to happen, so...
Miss Alli: And I have to say, you both look like you're trying not to laugh.
[Note: Here, Rob takes another call on his little cheeping cell phone. After commiserating with Brennan a little more about the bad cheesy opening shot, I go in search of one of my "Brennan-only" questions.]
Miss Alli: Were you surprised that there was a little bit of a flap about your Guido-rat-temple imitation?
Brennan: No, I wasn't surprised. In fact, as the episode aired, I looked at somebody and said, "Oh, I'm going to be labeled a homophobe." I knew that would probably be the case, but...I thought somebody online did a good job kind of explaining it. It had nothing to do with the fact that the guys were gay. It had everything to do with the fact that they're kinda prissy. They always look so nice, and prim and proper, and I could just see them running through the rat temple, just...you know, acting just like that. [laughing] I thought it was actually a pretty good imitation, myself.
Miss Alli: Well, it was one of those things where I understood how it could have been completely innocuous from your perspective, but I also understood why people didn't like it.
Brennan: Right. No, I understood as well. All I can say is that Bill and Joe sent me a huge compliment -- they loved it, so...
[Here, we talk some more about the endlessness of forum debate regarding that issue, and how it dragged on because it was the week the show took a break for the CMAs, so nobody had a new episode to move on to. We compare it to the endlessness of the debate about the Guidos taking people to the wrong train.]
Miss Alli: So, your charming alliance that you started. What was the point of that?
Rob: You know, it's kind of funny, because really, the point of the alliance was, leaving Songwe Village that night, a lot of the producers and the villagers had been talking about, you know, it's a dangerous area, especially in the middle of the night. And we thought, there's safety in numbers, so let's team up and do that. And initially, we weren't even going to include Joe and Bill in the alliance; it was kind of an idea that Brennan and Frank and Margarita and I came up with. But Joe and Bill were in second place and leaving in between, so they would see us just standing outside waiting for Frank and Margarita, so that just kind of made it, well, let's put them in it, too. And as you saw, it kind of fell apart in a hurry.