Joe: The whole point of the producers' thing was "don't run." Because we all had a bad reputation for running. Especially Rob and Brennan. Especially Rob.

Miss Alli: [chortle] Really!

Bill: I don't know why they got so mad at us, but you know, that's another...you know. It's just, the thing of the Guidos. I guess anything we did after that point, they weren't going to like us. So it didn't matter.

Miss Alli: Well, tell me a little about buying the tickets for the boat to Tunisia.

Bill: Oh, okay. That -- I'll just -- to make that short and sweet is difficult, but let me try. I just -- everyone was in the ticket terminal. Joe and I got there, you know, halfway -- we got there fourth. But then we went to another place to check out another possibility of buying tickets through an agency window which was across the street, and that turned out to be not the case, so they told us to go back to the ferry terminal. So I got in there, and no one was in line. Everyone was laying around on the benches, sleeping. 'Cause most of them had left Les Baux early in the morning, like three or four in the morning. And so they were tired, people who had got there ahead of us. So I thought, "Well, this is a race, I'm going to get in line. We have to buy a ticket? I'm going to be the first one there." So I just said, okay, I'm going to walk in the room and scope it out, as usual. My mind's going a million miles an hour, I walk in there, and get in line. So as soon as I see someone come in the office, the ticket window's not open, I engage him. I, you know, start speaking my very limited French to him, and just started making friends with him. You know, just saying "how are you doing," "do you have a family," I mean, just BS.

Joe: Because he spoke no English at all.

Bill: Yeah, so I'm just BS-ing with him, and then the only other contestant, really, that came next to me was Margaretta. She came next to me, and then eventually, Margarita came over eventually, like way way later in the thing. And so those two were the only two contestants that really showed any, you know, interest in what I was doing. And I really was trying to negotiate something to kind of make up for what had happened -- I mean, honestly, this was what I was doing. And no, it didn't come out this way on TV. But I was trying to, in my mind, to make up for what had happened at the train thing, because I think the other contestants knew that we got off the train [at Avignon], and I think they really felt that we had really set them up, which, in a way we had, for them to go on to Marseilles. So I thought, well, maybe if I get passage for all of us on this thing, save us all some money, make sure everyone gets a bed -- 'cause we had gotten all this information from the ticket-taking guy, that things would be a little bit better. There wasn't much we could do, we were all here, we had to do it together, and so I did it.