Joe: I don't think that they're ever going to be able to talk about this, or watch any of these episodes again, and have a good chuckle about the Tunis Airport Wedge and say, "Wow, that was brilliant of the Guidos to do that!" That's always going to get their blood boiling.
Bill: And of course, you know, there were incidences where things came up and…we all apologized, basically, when we got back to New York, we said -- we all said, we had a little breakfast party the last day we were all together, and I was the first one to say it. I said, you know, there was a quiet in the room, I said, "Okay, everybody, this is a reality TV show, we all said and did" -- well, I didn't say "we all," I think I said, "We said and did things that you all probably won't appreciate when you see it on TV, so let me apologize in advance. You know, the race is over, let's have it be over." And everyone sort of agreed and nodded, and said that was a good idea, but once the show started to air…boy, that changed again. For all of us, I think, at some point or another. You know, because you really didn't know what everybody was saying and doing.
Miss Alli: So the other thing I wanted to ask you about, kind of, public perception, and this somewhat goes back to your villain issue also. You were, in your little captions and everything, you were "The Life Partners," right?
Miss Alli: That was your thing, like "The Separated Couple," "The Working Moms," "The Lawyers"…you were the Life Partners. Now, I seriously doubt that Kevin and Drew felt like they had to represent all Fraternity Brothers everywhere.
Miss Alli: And I certainly don't think Lenny and Karyn were attempting to represent all dating couples anywhere.
Miss Alli: Nevertheless, everywhere that I went to read about this particular show, there was somebody making the claim that you were setting a poor example…
Bill: Yeah, I'm sure.
Miss Alli: Or that if you acted up, you were doing a disservice to gay men in general.
Miss Alli: I, frankly, hate this theory. And I tried to be fairly clear about it, but I was interested in your thoughts about it.
Bill: It's really two things. In our mind, the race was a game, and our relationship was sacred. That's the whole story.