Cult house. Emma is telling Carroll she didn't realize the cult was so numerous, and he says he kept her isolated at the farmhouse so Joey would be comfortable. He asks about Jacob and Paul -- there's been no word from them, but also nothing about them on the news. Carroll says that probably means they're safe. (And surely plotting to kill Emma, wherever they are.) While cupping her face intimately, he says he'll never forget what she's done for him. And she's all SWOON HERE ARE MY KNICKERS WAIT JACOB WHO? A sheriff's department SUV pulls up, lights and sirens going, and Carroll tucks Emma behind him. The driver gets out and he and Carroll hug -- this guy is Roderick.
Inside, Roderick gloats about how well the plan has been going. Joe flatters how well he's improvised to deal with the Ryan complications, and says he's in Roderick's debt. Roderick says no, he's the one who owes Joe.
Flashback to 2004. Roderick is visiting Carroll in prison, and says he's actually the one who committed two of the murders Carroll was held responsible for. DUDE. He's not Carroll's lawyer. He just confessed to two murders. Why is no one supervising this visit?! Why does no one supervise ANY of Carroll's visits?! AAGGH. Roderick asks how he can repay Carroll, and Carroll says, "Oh, you will."
Roderick gives Carroll the grand tour, then gets a call on his radio from his dispatcher, asking what he wants with his sandwich -- potato salad or coleslaw. She addresses him as Sheriff Nelson, so that's great. He's in charge of shit. But he's cute, so he can stay for now.
Donovan reports that David won't talk to anyone but Ryan, who smugly asks, "What would you like me to do, sir?" Donovan wants Ryan to sit in on the interrogation, and also to call him Nick. And to stop being a cocky jackass, hmm?
David is handcuffed to a table, his hair in full nutbar wildness. Like, there's Agitated Coach Taylor Hair, Boyd Crowder Defcon 2 Hair, Don King, and then whatever David has going on. Donovan introduces himself, but David ignores him and talks to Ryan. Mike observes, watching on a monitor, that David is nuts. Honey, they're all nuts. David asks Ryan how he liked the plot twist of Carroll escaping twice. Ryan says it was fine, but now he's bored and wants David to tell him where to find Carroll. David launches into a crazy little Pollux Troy monologue about how they don't find the followers, the followers find them, and they're everywhere -- sons, daughters, husbands, wives, neighbors, parents. He says more will be dead tomorrow, and Ryan points out that he's paraphrasing Ted Bundy. Poorly, Mike interjects.