MONDO EXTRAS

TWoP: Would The Bad Girls Club work on a network other than Oxygen as The Bad Boys Club?

JM: I don't know... I find that men tend not to be as interested or as open. Women are more likely to want to improve their lives; they want to see if they can grow from an experience. Guys are usually less interested in that stuff. If guys have a problem, a lot of times they'd rather not talk about it. They'd rather avoid the conflict, whereas women seem much more open to conflict; much more open to feeling that they have to be heard.

TWoP: Could The Real World, Bad Girls Club, or other candid reality TV shows be what they are without the presence of alcohol? Many of the most talked-about moments on shows like yours involve cast members who are not quite themselves, let's just say.

JM: Well, we don't provide the alcohol for our shows. If someone wants alcohol, they go out and buy it. In real life, people tend to use alcohol to loosen up a little and reality TV participants are no different. We're not going to tell them they can't have alcohol. They're adults, they have to make that decision.

TWoP: So when they move into the house, the refrigerator is not stocked with booze?

JM: We don't put drinks into houses. They have to go out and buy their own.

TWoP: For economic reasons if nothing else, do you see reality becoming the dominant TV genre, at least in terms of volume, in the coming years?

JM: No, I don't. I think there should be a healthy mix of scripted and unscripted. But some cable channels will tend to use more reality television because of the economics of it.

TWoP: What other projects are you and Bunim/Murray working on?

JM: We have some cool shows on the air right now that we're excited about. There's a show on DirecTV called Supreme Court of Comedy where we have real litigants in small-claims court with comedians arguing the cases. Living Lohan will be on E! later this year, which we're excited about. But most of the other stuff is in development or at the point where the networks don't want us talking about it.

TWoP: And we'll see another season of The Real World in 2008?

JM: I hope so. We shall see.