Debbie looks uncomfortable, clears her throat, and approaches Jed's desk. He says, "You're the alpaca farmer." She replies, "It was something I tried for a while." He gestures for her to sit. She does. Jed: "You hired Charlie, huh?" She states that she worked in the Office of Presidential Personnel and that Charlie had come into the wrong office, having been called in for a job as a messenger. Jed didn't know that. Debbie says they started talking, and it didn't take long to see he was a "special kid," so she sent him to Josh Lyman. Jed: "Well, thanks for that." Debbie: "Yes, sir." She seems to be gathering her poise and confidence and relaxing a little now. Jed asks who was in second place; he wants to know who he almost got. He says he likes to think about the road not taken. She says he's testing her memory. She thinks and says, "It was a young man named David Dweck." Jed: "David Dweck?" She says, "I used to call him 'David Dweck Wanna a Dwink of Wawa.'" Bet he couldn't get enough of that. She adds, "'Til I realized that wasn't really funny." Larry knocks and sticks his head in to bring Jed some financial updates he wanted: "Hong Kong's down 4\% but it's still over 10,000. It's too early to tell anything. The Nikkei's down 2\%, the dollar's down .3\% against the yen, .4\% against the Euro. Frankfurt opens in eight hours." Jed thanks him and he leaves.

Turning back to Debbie, Jed asks, "Why were you fired?" She says there was no particular reason. Jed thinks that doesn't sound quite right. Debbie: "No?" Jed asks again. She asks, "Is it relevant?" Jed: "Only because you're asking for a job." She says, "Chronic lateness." Jed doesn't believe her. She says it's true. Jed says it's not. Debbie: "You calling me a liar to me face?" Jed says yes. She says okay. Charlie told Jed it was because of Charlie. She says that Charlie makes things up. Jed says he doesn't. Debbie: "He's a bad seed! I knew it the moment I saw him." Jed's getting tired of this and says that he's now ordering her to tell him. Actually, she's neither an employee of the federal government nor a member of the military, so can he really order her to do anything? I'm sure he's used to throwing his weight around nonetheless. Debbie replies, "Well, I'm afraid we're at a classic impasse, Mr. President." Jed says she was strange the first time he met her, and she's strange now. She says there was a good reason she was strange the first time they met: she was high. Hey, good strategy to remind him of that. I think I might set up a business training applicants to the White House in what not to say during interviews. She says: "This time, it's just me." He asks again why she was fired. She refuses to answer. He says he'll figure it out anyway: "What I lack in memory, I more than make up for with exceptional powers of deductive reasoning." Debbie: "That come with tights and a cape?" Jed: "All right, I think the interview's over." They rise and shake hands. She says, "But let's do this every once in a while." He thanks her and she leaves. Charlie opens the door for Debbie just as she gets near it. How does he do that? He's always opening the door at just the right moment. Is he psychic? Does he listen at the door with a glass? Does Jed secretly press a little button on his desk that alerts Charlie? Maybe Charlie has a closed-circuit camera for Jed's office. That must be it.