Back in Toby's office, he and Andy are arguing. They're not really listening to each other, and Andy tells him to hang on. He says he won't; she says, "Yes, you will, you will summon your strength and listen to me for a moment." He's tossing his rubber ball around. She states, "You guys made a hairpin turn at the State of the Union, and you did it without consulting a whole lot of members of the liberal wing of the Democratic Party." Toby retorts, "Sad to say, Andrea, there aren't a whole lot of members of the liberal wing of the Democratic Party!" She replies, "So you'll forgive some people if they're concerned that one of the options you're going to explore is raising the retirement age!" Toby points out that people are living decades longer than anyone anticipated they would in 1935; he adds that they want to consider everything, but they can't consider anything, unless....Andy suddenly asks, "Why does this have to happen in secret?" Toby bellows, "'Cause it's the only way it's gonna happen! 'Cause you can't solve Social Security and ask people to run for election at the same time. So why not give politicians some cloud cover and let them be lawmakers for a while? Fifteen people in a room with the door closed. Seven Democrats, seven Republicans, and the President of the United States, who will not have a vote, and they walk out of that room and with one voice, they make a recommendation to Congress and the American people. And nobody knows who was where." Andy looks like she's remembering why they got divorced. He sighs, bounces his ball, and says, "The only way it's gonna happen is in secret, and the only way it's gonna happen is if all the sides are confident in their representation; otherwise, it's dead. And so I need Seth Gillette on the Commission, but I can't ask him 'cause if he says no, there'll be no Commission." He bounces his ball again and says he appreciates her coming down and talking to him. I wonder if he ever let her have her Danish.