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Sheen doesn't hesitate at all before answering, "Heart. His heart. That he has heart." He explains that he thinks Jed takes what he's doing very personally, and that it's going to cost him something to get from here to there. He suggests that Jed balks at times and is propelled forward by the others, especially Leo. He suggests that Leo is the "up-front" guy and the "conscience," and then Janney and Whitford kinda make fun of him for saying that, going, "Awwww..." in an exaggerated way. Sheen kinda trails off, muttering to Whitford, "What's your job?" Whitford says, "I clean your golf clubs." Sheen kind of tries to wrap up what he was saying about Leo, but Rose just barely acknowledges it, having moved on to Spencer. Spencer says that he's "intrigued by Leo's desire to serve." He feels like he can propel his character to do great things, mentioning that Leo possesses a devotion that he himself would love to have in life. He adds that he thinks the intriguing thing about TWW is that it's about people; politics is just a backdrop. Rose agrees. Spencer thinks that viewers love who the characters are, and that they don't normally get to see those sides of political people. Rose states that he thinks that's a mistake on the part of the politicians; Spencer agrees: "You only see the public face, and we show them the private face." Rose asks Sorkin what he's trying to do, other than entertain people and achieve record viewership. Sorkin says, "If they tune in at nine o'clock, at ten o'clock, we want them to be happy that they did." He approaches the show with the idea that the people who watch television shows are at least as smart as the people who make television shows, adding, "Nobody out there is dumber than we are." Personally, I wouldn't go quite that far, but whatever. He thinks that people like to make the effort to keep up with what they're watching onscreen and feel excited about it. Whitford interjects to say, "Hollywood is full of really bright people who are writing something they think they can sell. And that's like me telling you a joke that I personally don't think is funny. It's a cynical exercise." He states this with just the right mixture of authority and contempt. He continues, "What you have with Aaron and what you have with David Chase on The Sopranos, is really bright, interesting writers who are clearly trying to amuse themselves." Brad has a little more to say in this vein, but Charlie Rose is ready to interrupt and Sheen, who's seated next to Whitford, has a bit of a coughing fit, all of which kind of takes a bit of the steam away from Whitford. Which is too bad, because I would have been interested to hear what more he had to say about it. He obviously has very strong opinions about the quality of television writing and is not afraid to express them.