Dennis goes on that he's fighting against four guys here, and there's nothing he can do. Jesse says he has something to say: There are two of the greatest athletes in the history of American sports right here (pointing to Herschel and Jesse, in case someone thought he meant Clint or, I don't know, Natalie), and just look at the contrast. Jesse actually looks like he's going to cry. Trump asks if Jesse sees a big contrast, and how Herschel is. Jesse says that he's better than you would expect, even knowing everything about him. He's even more than you think he is. Jesse says he sees people's eyes light up when they see Dennis, and then they meet him and there's a little bit of disappointment. Jesse says he's sad for Dennis. Trump tells Dennis that's a big statement, but Dennis says there ain't no disappointment. Jesse says this isn't about the hotel or the task, but there's a larger issue at hand. Dennis asks if this is about his issue, or about this game. He says none of the guys have defended him since Day One. Jesse tells him he'll stick up for him, to help him work and do his job, but when it goes beyond the threshold of getting him to be a team player, he can only do much.
Ivanka interjects to tell Dennis that she heard the team rallying behind him, saying that initially he had things under control, which deteriorated over the course of the day. She says they aren't saying he's not a good leader, just that the drinking interfered. Jesse asks Dennis how many drinks he thinks Jesse took away from him when he set them down. Dennis won't answer, and wants to know if it's a quiz or something. Jesse says it was four, but Dennis thinks he's being cute, and says he'd say fifteen. Clint wants to address what Dennis said about them all being against them. He says he wanted to win this task to win, but also for Dennis, because he doesn't want him to leave, in spite of the disruptions, the eruptions toward Clint himself, and the dysfunction he can bring. Clint says that the team supported Dennis completely. Trump asks who Clint would fire if KOTU loses, and Clint says he doesn't think he'd have a choice. Dennis asks if he's such a bad part of everything he does, how did he win five NBA championships. Herschel says that's the past, adding that he won a lot of things too, but the question is what he's doing today. Dennis says that Phil Jackson said he was the best player ever. Again, Herschel points out: the past. This actually is really, really sad for Dennis Rodman, I think. And it seems like everyone in that room can feel it and is sad, too. Trump can't believe that Rodman would say he's better than Jordan, but Dennis says he was coached with no pain, no anguish, no troubles. Herschel again says that's the past, but Trump says "Champion is champion," adding that Dennis might have some difficulties now that he didn't have then.