MONDO EXTRAS

H: I think I do.

WC: Cashmere Mafia or Lipstick Jungle?

H: I say Cashmere Mafia.

J: Me too.

WC: Because of Pat Field?

J: I think what we've learned is, in the Sex & The City-like cocktail, the piece you need is Darren Star. It is not Candace Bushnell.

H: We could have predicted from Melrose Place.

J: He worked on that one too. Lipstick Jungle is fine, but Cashmere Mafia is deliciously bad.

H: Yeah.

J: It's crazy!

H: The show's more fun; it's a lighter show.

WC: And it got more buzz ahead of time because there were those crazy-ass shots of Lucy Liu where people were like, "What in the hell is she wearing?"

H: She's wearing a fur hoodie while jogging?

J: You know what? I'm excited about the Sex & The City movie. I'm excited and I don't care who knows it. It may not be cool to be excited about it, but I am. I just saw the preview last week, and everyone looks great in it, and that's all I really care about. You know what's gonna happen? I'm gonna watch it now.

H: I don't care that much about the characters, but I'm excited for the clothes. I like to ogle that show more than I like to watch it.

WC: There was that whole thing with Bitten that was supposed to tide us over in the Sarah Jessica Parker/fashion milieu.

H: My theory is that what it actually did was make us crave Carrie Bradshaw, because it was so low-rent -- and unsuccessful, I'd imagine.

J: I thought she was good as a judge on Project Runway.

H: They've been getting really good judges this year.

J: When they cut to freaking Donna Karan...

H: I know.

J: It's Donna Karan! And SJP!

WC: It's like watching early seasons of Top Model, when they were still in New York, when you were like, "Wow, that's the real Marc Bouwer."

H: I was watching my episode -- they had to do go-sees with Diane Von Furstenberg -- and Kevin [Mock, Heather's husband] directed that day, so he's actually met her. I was like, "You met Diane Von Furstenberg!" He said, "I don't think she'd recognize me [if she ever saw me again]."