C.J. is walking through an open office area talking to her secretary, Carol, and saying that she'll need biographical information on Simon Cruz. Carol asks if it's spelled C-r-u-z. C.J. doesn't know. Carol asks what kind of biographical information she needs. C.J.: "We're going to need to know how to spell his name, for sure." C.J. and Carol pass behind the President's little walking tour and disappear into another corridor. Jed's making small talk with Joey, asking if she reads lips (she does), and whether her name is short for Joanne (nope, Josephine) and whether her last name is Polish (it's Dutch). He asks if she's Protestant; she's Quaker. They've arrived at the Oval Office. Joey seems suitably awed. POTUS invites them to sit down; Josh hangs back, standing behind the chesterfield. Jed asks Joey where she went to school. Joey attended UCLA and Stanford. You can just about hear Josh thinking, "Another paranoid shiksa feminista from the West Coast." POTUS is done with the small talk; he wants to pick Joey's brain. He mentions Simon Cruz's case and asks what she thinks he should do. She thinks a moment and then says, "Stay the execution." Jed wants to know why, of course; she thinks the state shouldn't kill people. POTUS informs her that he was found guilty of a double murder as well as drug trafficking. Joey thinks he should be sent to prison, and confirms that she's against capital punishment. I'm not sure what else he'd expect from a Quaker. She's probably not wearing a T-shirt under her camel coat that says, "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out!" The President wants to know if she studied St. Augustine and Thomas Aquinas at Stanford; she did. "Two pretty smart guys, right?" asks Jed; Joey agrees. POTUS says, "They believed in that part of the Old Testament which said, 'Who sheddeth a man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed.'" Joey replies, "And Immanuel Kant said that the death penalty is a categorical imperative. But, Mr. President, those writings are from other centuries." Those other centuries when nobody murdered anybody? POTUS points out that a Harris poll says that seventy-one percent of Americans support the death penalty. Joey's rejoinder is that that's a political problem. POTUS remarks that he's a politician. He then gestures subtly to Josh to indicate that this little impromptu meeting is over. Josh thanks Jed and gestures to indicate they should be going, but Joey sees her opportunity and explains who she is and why she's come to the White House. The President doesn't mince words and says, "O'Dwyer's an empty shirt." Joey's puzzled. POTUS explains, "I don't like guys that run for Congress because they think it's a great gig. Find yourself a live one and I'll get interested. In the meantime, the devil you know beats the devil you don't, and I like the devil I got." She starts to protest but Jed's firm and tells her Josh will take care of her. Out in the hall, Joey tells Josh through her interpreter that they're going back to the hotel. Kenny also says that it was nice meeting Josh. Josh calls after her that it was nice meeting her, too, but Kenny explains that it was only him saying it, not Joey. Josh asks, "You didn't have a good time meeting me?" She turns around and gives him a "Screw off!" gesture, and before Kenny can interpret, Josh states, "You know, I think I know that sign." Kenny interprets Josh's comments for Joey and she starts to sign something else, which looks to me like she's spelling something quickly and then takes off. Josh says, "I don't know that one...but I can probably guess."