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RT: Well, to tell you the truth, I wasn't really going for a Rashomon-style story with "Echolls." There may have been a bit of an Agatha Christie feel to it, but I didn't think that mystery was big enough for a Rashomon-level episode. But, funnily enough, where we are using that idea again is in the episode I just mentioned, the next-to-last episode of the season, where Veronica figures out who roofied and raped her. We're trying to get as many people from the season together for that episode -- both people she's helped and people she's hurt, so we can get all their points of view so Veronica can solve the case. CB: Wow, that is awesome! I can't wait for that one now. RT: We're looking forward to it. Of course, you have to be careful with theme episodes. We talk in the writer's room about how we'll know we've jumped the shark when we start having the characters acting out a version of Clue. CB: [laughs] Speaking of the characters, let's talk about the casting for a minute. It's fairly well known, I think, that Jason Dohring originally auditioned for the role of Duncan. Am I right that Logan wasn't even supposed to be a main character? RT: Actually, he was supposed to be a main character, but probably not with quite as big a role as he ended up with. But we love writing for him, because he's so dynamic. We cast Kristin first, so she read with all the male auditioners. We were down to three guys for the part of Logan, and after the first one read, we asked Kristen what she thought. She said she just didn't think he was intense enough. Knowing Jason was up next, I said, "Wait 'til the next guy." CB: Well, yeah. There's a lot going on there. RT: And Jason could have played Duncan. But the thing is, UPN's just like any other network in that they want pretty people. And Jason's a handsome guy, but when the network is looking for the romantic lead, the only headshots they want to see are male-model types. I think it worked out better this way. CB: Well, he was so hated after the first couple of episodes. And it's partly the writing, but it's partly his acting ability -- I mean, his popularity rivals [Kristen's], and that's not easy to accomplish. RT: We feel that way in the writer's room too. CB: The whole cast seems really eager. Some of our posters have gone to the publicity events they've done around the country and met them, and have had nothing but good things to say about how pleasant and into it they are.