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TWoP 10: Resolutions TV Shows Should Make

by Angel Cohn December 31, 2008 9:18 AM
TWoP 10: Resolutions TV Shows Should Make

We've tired of thinking what we'll do to make TV a better experience for us and vowing never to watch a show, only to get suckered back into a hyped storyline (Prison Break), or promising to watch all those shows that have been sitting in our DVR for months that we know we're never, ever, going to really watch. Instead, we decided to be more productive and came up with some resolutions for the TV shows themselves (and the people behind them). Here's hoping that at least a few of these actually stick.

1. Heroes -- Make the Show Fun Again
We hate to sound like an SNL character, but "Fix it. Fix. It!" We used to love this show and while the last two episodes of this arc were not quite as bad as the rest of the fall installments (or that season that shall not be mentioned), we're sort of dreading the whole Nathan president thing already. Please, please, please don't make this as lame as we think it's going to be. We've even got some ideas on how to fix it, and with Bryan Fuller coming back (sniff sniff, Pushing Daisies) there is no reason this show shouldn't be able to return to form.

2. Grey's Anatomy -- Kill Denny Off for Good
We so fondly remember a medical drama that was steamy and good and not horrifyingly painful to watch. We know it is in there somewhere. Stuffed in the back of a janitor's closet at Seattle Grace perhaps. And while there a lot of problems with the show, the most egregious error in judgment was bringing Denny back (nothing against the handsome and talented Jeffrey Dean Morgan) as a ghost that just won't go away. It takes the show into a weird, trippy place, and away from the surgery and sex, which was what we liked in the first place. And no, sex with a ghost doesn't count.

3. The Office -- Make Pam Less Annoying
We used to love Pam back in the day when she was flirting with Jim and wreaking mild mischief around Dunder-Mifflin Scranton, but these days she's an irritating nag who grates on our nerves. Her note in the kitchen about the microwave deserved the ridicule it got. Her inter-office politicking for new chairs? Stupid. And did she really go to art school to sit around as a receptionist? Shouldn't she at least have tried for a different job around Scranton? Where's the girl we knew before she headed off to New York? Bring her back, please, so that we can actually be excited about her and Jim getting married.

4. American Idol -- Less Bad People, More Simon
They say they are going to focus on less of the terrible auditions this year, but we're sure they'll find a way to work this season's answer to William Hung into the show repeatedly. We tune in for the singing and the nasty comments from Simon (and OK, to make fun of Seacrest) but not to suffer through tone deaf fame whores in weird wardrobes.

5. Dancing With the Stars -- Cast Some Actual Stars
The list of new contestants hasn't been revealed yet, but for a change of pace, we'd love to see some actual big movie or TV stars instead of has-beens grasping for another few minutes of fame or retired athletes. The third guy from the left on Hannah Montana isn't exactly a huge 'get.' Let's aim higher for the new year.

6. Smallville -- Find a Way to Get Rid of Lois
Lois Lane is very important in the superman mythology, but this girl? Not so much. It's not that we hate her (though we kind of do) but she's just too busy making googly eyes to actually be a credible reporter. Maybe they can find a way to send her on assignment... for a good long time... like until the series finale.

7. Bones -- Hire a Replacement for Zack
Come on already. It's been too long. The revolving door of annoying or pretentious or unqualified wannabes is getting way old and really bringing us down. Put some new geek in that spot, so we can stop being reminded of the ludicrousness of Zack being Gormogon's apprentice story on a regular basis, and give us a permanent person to get used to. We hated Cam when she got there and now we almost kind of, sort of, don't mind her so much.

8. True Blood -- Don't Kill Lafayette
It's not looking good for TV's favorite fry-cook/drug dealer. Those pretty toenails in the car on the season finale seemed to belong to him, but he's hands down our favorite character. Perhaps the wicked mind of Alan Ball can find a way out of this one if it is really him (it's OK to deviate wildly from the books on this one. I promise I won't gripe about it.) Ned from Pushing Daisies isn't busy, maybe he can come in to make this resolution a reality.

9. Fringe -- Give Olivia a Personality
We want Fringe to be a better show, and the main problem is the dull Olivia, played by the equally dull Anna Torv. We know her job is serious and all that messing around in her brain can't exactly be fun, but a little more humor or life would be appreciated. Just look at Brennan on Bones, she's smart, sexy, damned good at her job, and can crack a joke.

10. Supernatural -- More Jensen Ackles Singing
I know that our resident Supernatural dragon Raoul would probably want more GORE! (which he always wishes for), and that the fans are clamoring for less of Ruby (which we'd be fine with too), but this year we'd like to see more Jensen Ackles doing "Eye of the Tiger" or other tunes to give us a little taste of the behind the scenes goofiness. It can make even a bad episode so much better.

Your thoughts? Resolutions you'd like to see your favorite shows make? List 'em below.

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December 31, 2008 11:04 AM
Bethany
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i couldn't agree more! please reality tv shows if you want to use the word "celebrity" in the title could you please include people that we've actually heard of! oh and less ruby more dean and sam! (oh and more bobby!!!)

December 31, 2008 1:03 PM
Federista
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I would love to see Lafayette back - but AB just should not stray that far from the source material. I would be happy if a) Tara would do less shrieking b) Sookie would do less whining and c) Eric were recast to be as smoking hot as his literary counterpart

December 31, 2008 1:50 PM
CandyMaize
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I am totally on board with #10. For both being able to see more of the behind the scenes "fun" that the guys have, and also to get hear Jensen really singing in some more episodes.

PS. I really enjoyed the YF episode!

December 31, 2008 3:54 PM
Jonathan
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I so agree about Smallville's Lois Lane. Hello. The writer wrote themselves a better Lois Lane in season one. It's just she was blonde, and went by another name. The actual Lois character on this show is pretty useless. And not believable.

December 31, 2008 4:11 PM
Tanya
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I'm in total agreement with #10. Although I'd gladly give up less Jensen singing if it meant I'd never have to see Ruby again.

One can only wish.

*sigh*

December 31, 2008 6:15 PM
teto
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heroes , its not fun what we want , heroes need drama and action together , action like villains , and drama like generations , we dont need elle die and no more of she , in this dead we need drama more of elle , please no more dies , the dies are not Entertained , we need more moral form of every character even the Secondary prominent figures

December 31, 2008 8:26 PM
BP
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I have to agree with more Jenson singing for Supernatural and bye bye Lois for Smallville.

December 31, 2008 10:00 PM
Abi
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I have little faith that even if the writers DID attempt to give Olivia personality that Anna Torv's acting "talents" would ensure she was still incredibly dull. How about just relegating her to the background and giving the fantastic John Noble her screentime?

Absolutely seconding more Jensen Ackles singing in Supernatural. Maybe they could just replace the credits with a clip of him singing a different song every week?

December 31, 2008 10:30 PM
Corinne
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Thank you TWOP for #9 (Fringe -- Give Olivia a Personality). Olivia is the worst character on that show, and she's the lead.

Oh, and thanks for #10 too. I'd love for all of those to happen.

December 31, 2008 11:45 PM
Lauren
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I'd like to add a #11.

House -- Speed up Thirteen's Huntington's and kill her off before the season ends.

January 1, 2009 2:05 AM
Erin
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I agree with most of these resolutions though particularly
agree with Lauren's 11th one. Though this resolution also needs a bit extra, Chase & Cameron to be specific. They need to bring back C & C into a bigger capacity. I'd take Cam over 13 any day, that's saying something.

January 1, 2009 2:09 AM
Erin
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Oh though also got to agree with Federista about Lafayette, love the dude but he was always to be dead meat. I'm all for literary licesnes but they've got to stick loosely with the books.

Also with Bones? How about just bring Zach back and write themselves out of that Gorgomon mess. They can't do a worse job than what they did in the first place with that storyline.

January 1, 2009 4:23 AM
Ellen
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Can't they just kill off Olivia and get someone else? Even promote one of the supporting characters. Then they could all be trying to avenge her death. Or she could go missing and they could look for her, only to find her dead.

Denny has got to go. I'm sorry, but I can't help but think this will affect Jeffrey Dean Morgan's career. I can barely stand the sight of him anymore. And I liked him in Supernatural.

January 1, 2009 4:51 AM
Mekastic
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Love suggestions #6 and #10: less of this particular Lois and more of Jensen singing. Folks at CW should listen up now that even TV Guide's not covering you.

January 1, 2009 5:53 AM
Bigi
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#s 3 and 6 are exactly why show producers shouldn't listen to the insane shippers and bitchy fangirls that overpopulate TWoP's boards.

January 1, 2009 7:36 AM
Dee
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I am so on board with #6 - Smallville's Lois Lane is, quite sadly, a waste of space. And the Grey's Anatomy Denny storyline worked when Denny was alive...he isn't anymore. Nuff said.

January 1, 2009 7:40 AM
Dee
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I am so on board with #6 - Smallville's Lois Lane is, quite sadly, a waste of space. And the Grey's Anatomy Denny storyline worked when Denny was alive...he isn't anymore. Nuff said.

January 1, 2009 10:12 AM
Mecca
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I swear if JDM shows up for ghost sex on Weeds or Supernatural I'll gauge my eyes out.

January 1, 2009 10:12 AM
Mecca
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I swear if JDM shows up for ghost sex on Weeds or Supernatural I'll gauge my eyes out.

January 1, 2009 12:00 PM
ann
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HEROES: "fix it!, fix it!, fix it!"

When the show first started the action and humor were good enough that we didn't mind that the so called science wasn't exactly right or that they were ripping off existing comic book heroes. The show meshed and we could watch each week and feel happy. Remember how we cheered when Nathan flew? Yeah, we want that back.
"fix it!"

January 1, 2009 3:02 PM
Heather
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Heroes- Pleaaaase do not do the whole flip/flop thing with Sylar again. Pleeaaaase. I almost disowned my favorite character of all time so far. There is a middle ground people. Anti-Hero. I mean look at House.

I also want Heroes to stop with the mis-leading titles. With 'Villians', I assumed a superpowered villian team that would kick-ass. NO! It was all about flip-flopping. NO!

Supernatural- Take JDM from Grey's, put him back on Supernatural. If JDM can be on Grey's why can't he be on Supernatural? Why?!

And if you have Castiel change vessels, I may have to hold Jensen hostage.

True Blood- I don't watch this show, but that would be 10x awesome if they could adopt the Pushing Daisies cast (or even anyone like the Darling Mermaid Darlings). I would start watching your show. It may be ludicrious but it's not a bad investment.

ABC- Air the last 3 Pushing Daisies episodes. I don't care if you burn them, I want them. Nowwww.

January 1, 2009 3:03 PM
Sara
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I disagree with #3. Pam's note may have been over the top, but I still sided with her completely. IMO, it IS quite frustrating when people don't clean up their messes. Also, I didn't think Pam was any more "annoyng" about the chairs vs. new copier than anyone else on the show.

January 1, 2009 6:25 PM
sabrina
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Yes - make Lafayette live on TB, and hire the British guy who played Vincent on Bones. Vincent was adorable.

January 1, 2009 11:23 PM
litania
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May the gods of tv hear you! May the Dean singing send Ruby... and Denny... and Lois!!! on their way to anywhere else but their respective tv shows!

January 2, 2009 12:32 AM
Agent0042
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"Heroes" and "American Idol" are the only two shows on the list I watch. As for "Heroes," I sure hope Bryan Fuller can improve it (I adored "Wonderfalls," though I never did see "Pushing Daisies," I guess I probably should sometime...) and that things will be fixed in general. I'd hate to have to ditch it. As for "Idol," well, I can see how it would be hard for them to change when the show's still so successful. And yet, they do seem to be making somewhat of an effort, so let's see if it helps any...

January 2, 2009 12:51 AM
Tamzen
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Yes. agreed...get rid off Lois and more of Green arrow PLEASE.... But my most favorite show is SUPERNATURAL and i hope if its possible for the coming half of the new episodes to be better than the ones we've so far have had the pleasure of enjoying =D

January 2, 2009 12:55 AM
Jesse
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I couldn't agree more regarding Lois Lane. I get that she's the T&A, but the writers waste an enormous amount of time giving her an excuse to make googly eyes and flash cleavage without providing her with a believable reason to be there.

Lois Lane has never defined Superman mythos, and Smallville's best iconic stories have always been about the villians. They should just stick with actual storytelling and send this Lois off to tour with a Monster truck crew for the rest of the series while they follow the Dooms, Brainiac, and maybe Mercy/Lex storylines.

January 2, 2009 2:21 AM
Jason
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I have a better idea for Smallville. Ready? JUST. GO. AWAY.

Look, anytime I hear people bitch about Heroes, I get huffy. Maybe I have lower standards. Maybe I'm too easily amused by the likes of Hiro. But even at his most continuity-forgetting and spazz-minded, Tim Kring has had more of a clue than most of the people who ran Smallville in the past several years. And villains going towards the light like Angela? Done with Lionel "The Bastard Formerly Known As Magnificent" Luthor first.

I get the bellyaching with Heroes, yet I never see a big-time publication take shots at SV. Note to the CW: end it. Just freakin' end it. Flush that show, and flush the pilot with the "Dick Grayson BEFORE He Became Robin!!!" concept. You have all the hot teen-based drama and two Clydesdales working on Supernatural. Shit, Jensen Ackles didn't bust out until he fell off the SV ship in 2005. What does that tell you?

Fringe . . . I'm okay with Olivia. I'm more bugged by the limited commercial breaks, because I can't get to the fridge and back fast enough. How about shining a bit of the spotlight on Astrid? That is the girl's name, right? All I know is that she seems sweet, Walter keeps forgetting her name, and he tranquilized her once.

January 2, 2009 2:32 AM
Jason
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Oh, and Sci Fi? I have a resolution for you: Tell us when you're gonna run The Sarah Jane Adventures This year is gonna bite for Doctor Who fans, given the grand total of two episodes running in 2009 (on Easter and Christmas) and the third Torchwood season/series getting played in one week on the BBC . . . and who knows when either of them will be played Stateside. I know SJA is kiddy stuff, but some of us are fans of gracefully-aging actresses like Elisabeth Sladen, and the Brigadier returns to the tube for the first time in almost two decades. Just give us a night and time, and we'll be there. I'm still pissed they did away with Who Wants To Be A Superhero?.

January 2, 2009 8:09 AM
Tara Lynn
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replied to comment from Erin

Erin,
Zach won't be coming back anytime soon. He left the show because he wanted to go to college. He said he might come back when he graduated, but I seriously doubt the show will be on for another 4-6 years. (Not that I don't absolutely LOVE the show, but seriously, it's tv.)

January 2, 2009 8:53 AM
Cereselle
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Heroes lost me when they tossed Adam. He was the only thing that made S2 interesting, and now he's gone, I just don't care anymore.

January 2, 2009 10:47 AM
Michelle
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House - Get rid of boring Thirteen and END the Huddy madness! We need more Chase and Cameron!

Totally agree about Grey's and Dead Denny. Make it stop Shonda, make it stop!

Ditto on more Jensen singing on Supernatural. I don't really mind Ruby all that much, but I wouldn't be upset if she left.

I'm actually one of the few people around here that LOVES Lois on Smallville. I love Chloe too, so keep the pitch forks to yourselves. Is it illegal to love both? Did I miss that memo?

January 2, 2009 12:38 PM
alwaysyouclark
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God....I agree about Lois Lane...she is horrible!!!!

January 2, 2009 12:38 PM
alwaysyouclark
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God....I agree about Lois Lane...she is horrible!!!!

January 2, 2009 1:44 PM
Tessa
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Oh I have to agree on Pam. I don't know when I stopped rooting for them as a couple but it was probably around the time she just gave up on school. She's wanted it from Season 1, and I know it's supposed to be romantic but I was like-really? I thought she was better than that and I thought Jim wanted MORE for her than that (he used to rail on Roy for stifling her). And her office antics aren't as funny either.

And Heroes has annoyed me so much, that I took it off my Season Pass.

I love True Blood and Lafayette-who they gave a much bigger role in the show from the books so maybe they hadn't anticipated how it'd go down?

January 2, 2009 4:09 PM
Bekah
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It's too late for TPTB to clean up their act for me. I stopped watching Smallville, American Idol, and Grey's a couple of years ago. And The Office is getting tired: I'm sick of the office parties and/or seminars that take place nearly every episode. And enough with inter-office romances! Let's bring some fresh material, The Office!

January 2, 2009 4:10 PM
Bekah
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It's too late for TPTB to clean up their act for me. I stopped watching Smallville, American Idol, and Grey's a couple of years ago. And The Office is getting tired: I'm sick of the office parties and/or seminars that take place nearly every episode. And enough with inter-office romances! Let's bring some fresh material, The Office!

January 2, 2009 4:24 PM
Loyal Viewer
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Yeah, boo to all those shows attempting character development and story arcs! Keep everything the same, fire all the actresses we don't like (how DARE they be in romantic storylines with OUR lust objects?), and god help any character who dares to make a decision that's not 100% correct.
You know, TWOP used to be an alternative to this kind of myopic fangirl whining.

January 2, 2009 4:24 PM
Loyal Viewer
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Yeah, boo to all those shows attempting character development and story arcs! Keep everything the same, fire all the actresses we don't like (how DARE they be in romantic storylines with OUR lust objects?), and god help any character who dares to make a decision that's not 100% correct.
You know, TWOP used to be an alternative to this kind of myopic fangirl whining.

January 2, 2009 4:32 PM
Silent E
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replied to comment from Tara Lynn

Actually, Eric Milligan was completely surprised by the Gormogon storyline, and had no idea that Zack was going down as the apprentice. I read articles and interviews that stated the whole cast's surprise and dislike of the way it was handled. I agree that they need to find a permanent replacement, but also resolve the storyline, since Zack told Sweets the whole truth a couple of episodes back.

January 2, 2009 5:17 PM
Jen
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AMEN!

January 2, 2009 6:26 PM
michelle
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Thou shalt not mess with thy sacredness that is The Office. I trust the writers. They've made a show consistantly funny for 4 1/2 seasons, with very few misses. Let's see where they go with this new Pam thing. Give them a chance.

January 2, 2009 7:17 PM
Danny
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replied to comment from Federista

eric is pretty hot, we just need to see him naked, look up his actor bio, hes a hot scandanavian actor and i'm sure he has an ass to die for.

January 2, 2009 7:37 PM
Libby
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I'd raise a glass to the Smallville resolution. I mean, yes, we get it; the characters end up together. But, that said, we knew that, anyway. Ok, maybe there is one person who watches the show, that had no previous knowledge of the Superman mythos. And, for that one person, I'm sure the two kids that hated each other, then discovered a romance is a big storyline.

But, since the other millions of your audience know the mythos, stop messing around with it. To start, Lois shouldn't have been on the show. I mean, it is called SMALLVILLE. Next, don't insult your audience by forcing the chemistry between Tom Welling and Erica Durance; it's just not happening.

And, for the love of all that is good and pure, START GIVING CHLOE/ALLISON MACK MORE AIRTIME AND CREDIT. She is the main reason I am watching this show, and, if I'm predicting the future episodes correctly, she will be the only thing I tune in for.

So, to kill two birds with one stone; stop messing around, write Lois off, and put Chloe where she belongs--behind a Daily Planet desk, with a nameplate that reads "Lois Lane." That's right, I will still accept the Chlois theory, if it means an end to this pitiful version of a character I love.

January 2, 2009 7:52 PM
Val
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Zack didn't kill anyone after all. Isn't that what he finally admitted during that episode when he was out with Sweets? So they are probably going to get him out of lockup and bring him back to the show?

January 2, 2009 11:45 PM
The Carl
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I've always been a Lois Lane fan but Smallville Lois just isn't her. I sincerely hope the writers let her evolve into the charismatic, intelligent, classy, Pulitzer Prize winning university graduate I'm supposed to believe she becomes.

Ah, who am I kidding...

January 2, 2009 11:55 PM
Remedios
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I don't even understand what planet you're watching Smallville on if you think Lois's feelings towards Clark are a detriment to her job, or that she's not being pretty damn stoic about her feelings. And god, the show would be unbearable without her. She provides the only moments of wit and levity! And the episodes this season without her in it have been completely terrible. Chloe makes for a horrible leading lady.

January 3, 2009 1:28 AM
Soleil
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Re: #6: YES, ANGEL, A THOUSAND TIMES YES!

January 3, 2009 2:07 AM
Jason
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replied to comment from Remedios

I'm sorry, but Lois is the antithesis of wit and levity. Even back in the days of the pink flying squirrel and her Thecreth and Lieth and Lex Luthor the Evil Waffle, Lois just flat out sucked from the start. If you wanted coolness, you'd go to Chloe . . . except now, she's a vessel for Brainiac, who gave her superpowers of her own, which in retrospect was insanely derriative of the last few episodes of the first season of Justice League Unlimited. And those powers replaced her healing abilities, which she wound up with because the writers didn't think she was "special" enough.

Once again: Smallville has to go. Let Allison Mack and the folks behind Ollie, Tess and Doomsday (whose names I can't be bothered to look up) find better destinies, particularly on Heroes. Especially Mack, whose blondness of ability to kick ass on camera would fill the show's prerequisites. As for Durance and Tom Weiling? Well, I'm guessing there will always be the option for direct-to-DVD movies, say, Cheaper By The Dozen III?

January 3, 2009 2:51 PM
Remedios
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The idea of Chloe being "cool" just gave me a good laugh, Jason. And Allison Mack is a patently terrible actress with no flair for comedy or pathos.

I find Lois fairly droll, she makes for a pretty good old-fashioned broad.

I suspect Allison Mack will find her calling one day on CSI: Middle of Nowhere as "quirky lab tech".

January 3, 2009 3:12 PM
perihadion
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Lois is the most complex, most compelling character on Smallville. The idea that she is somehow not a "credible" reporter is frankly laughable -- by comparison to who? Lois is the character who has shown the most aptitude for investigation, right from her introduction in S4. Smallville without Lois is a vastly inferior show.

January 3, 2009 3:13 PM
Joan
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Hate female characters a little more, Angel!

January 3, 2009 4:07 PM
Marianne
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WTF? Why would Smallville get rid of Lois? Why *should* they? What would the show even be about without her? The adventures of Clark, Chloe, and Jimmy?

Lois and Clark are what drew me to the show this season after years of not watching it. Their chemistry is delightful and has brightened up what was previously an exceedingly dull show. And television has a dearth of strong female characters, why would you want to get rid of one of the best?

January 3, 2009 4:59 PM
Smallville
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Suprise, Suprise, a TWOP article bashing Lois. I guess when you think the show is called Chloeville you would take exception to any character that threatens your deluded theories and speculation

January 3, 2009 5:14 PM
Smallville
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replied to comment from Libby

[quote]And, for the love of all that is good and pure, START GIVING CHLOE/ALLISON MACK MORE AIRTIME AND CREDIT. She is the main reason I am watching this show, and, if I'm predicting the future episodes correctly, she will be the only thing I tune in for.[/quote]

When I say this site thinks the show is called Chloeville this is a perfect example. Hate to break it to you, while some people love or like Allision, alot could care one way or another about her. Give me more Clark, since afterall he should be the main focus of the show.

January 3, 2009 6:40 PM
erium
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I have to say that I agree with Grey's, Bones, and Fringe.

However... couldn't disagree more when it comes to The Office and Smallville. I'm enjoying how they handles the Pam/Jim relationship & I liked the chairs vs. photocopying story. Also, Lois is - hands down - my favorite character on the show. This woman is a credible reporter (turning in articles about a serial killer before anyone even catches on that there is one) and the googly eyes? She's making them at a man who would be Superman and is destined to be the love of her life. Why not cut the girl a break? She does manage to kick ass and coordinate a pretty awesome wedding (while working full time and trying to save her cousin's life - TWICE) and if she ends up being a bit girly every now and then? What's wrong with that? And when you say "it's not we hate her (even though we do)" who is the WE you're talking about? I hope you're not speaking for the whole Smallville fan-base, because, trust me, WE do not agree with you.

Also, I'm a huge Supernatural fan, but I don't really need to see Jensen Ackles singing... it was cute a couple of times... but it's not something the show needs MORE of.

January 3, 2009 7:17 PM
Tiesha
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Is this article suppose to be journalism, or is it just a long forum post that is masquerading as a real article? I am confused because you used the word 'we' as if you are speaking on behalf of at least half of the television viewership, yet your opinions seems selfish and one-sided. I really hope that anybody connected with the production of these shows sees it for what it is; a comic relief.

Anyway, I think that the Smallville and Supernatural are really interesting this season. Lois is a much needed addition to this show. That doesn't seem to be the popular opinion here. It seems that it is a requirement to hate Lois if you were original a fan of Chloe. That is quite ridiculous seeing as this is a story of Superman when he was younger. Since we all know that there wasn't a Chloe in the end...well you get my drift. I think that the Smallville's Lois is refreshing and I enjoy her spunk.

January 3, 2009 8:34 PM
Smallville
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I have to disagree with #6. I started watching smallville when they introduced Lois Lane. If anything makes me not want to watch the show is the return of Lana Lang.

January 3, 2009 8:51 PM
Morgan
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Hey, when it comes to Smallville, I have a much better idea. Instead of getting rid of Lois, who is being flayed for making googly eyes at the guy who ends up her husband, why don't we get rid of Chloe? See, this kills 2 birds with one stone. For the deluded fans who seem to think Allison Mack is the center of the known universe, and the show should be called Chloeville, they can stop watching finally. And for those people that watch for the main character, Clark Kent, and the overall story, we can stop hearing you piss and moan that the perky supporting sidekick isn't the whole show. Its a win-win all around!

I do agree with you on Greys, Heroes (though I think that sucker is dead), and Fringe.

As for Supernatural, I think Jensen singing was one of those great one-time moments that would only become lame if they recreated it.

January 3, 2009 11:11 PM
Isabella
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I totally agree about Pam of the Office and bringing back Denny. Where has all the good writing gone?

January 4, 2009 12:47 AM
Kris
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As much as I hate to admit it, Pam is on my nerves. I hate to see Jim cowering to her. They were equals....bring back the old Pam, please.

January 4, 2009 3:58 AM
Jason
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Lois makes Lana look good. There, I said it. And I don't regard Chloe to be the center of the show, though with the Big Dumb Alien at the center of that universe, it wouldn't be that bad an idea. But like I said before and will keep repeating: Smallville has to go. There's no justice in that coming back in September 2009, while Pushing Daisies is done after two seasons, even if the CW is more or less a minor league.

Ackles' "Eye Of The Tiger" bit was a bolt of lightning. I'm not expecting anything like that again, and it shouldn't be forced.

January 4, 2009 6:08 AM
Sandra
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Between this article and the rampant misogyny that runs through Omar's Smallville recaps these days, I don't think I can read TWoP anymore.

January 4, 2009 7:11 AM
Kat
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What I love most about the anti-Chloe rants here is the personal attacks that these Lois-lovers are resorting to: "Deluded", "pathetic", "morons", "whiners", etc. Heaven forfend that you would have to argue on the grounds of character development and other such adult critiques.

A high school dropout who didn't finish one semester of college, who scored a job by being overheard by the boss ranting about UFO's with no evidence, then banging said boss in his office, may fill you with pride and adulation; Chloe-fans have no reason to take your crap for loving a young, HARD-WORKING aspiring journalist who was briefly rewarded for her efforts before it was taken away to wedge Erica's Lois Lane in. The sudden "OMG! I love Smallvi... I mean, Clark" that happened this season (the googly eyes) is one more lightswitch. But I don't call you people pathetic for calling an illiterate, boss-banging ingrate one of the "strongest women" on television.

Oh, and in total agreement about #10! Have the Dean brothers go up against that cool tap-dancing demon from season 6 of BtVS. Dean singing some 80s rock song and Sam warbling to something emo. Bobby would go nicely with a bit of Steve Earl, The Early Years.

January 4, 2009 1:03 PM
Summer
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I have to disagree about The Office too. I've loved Pam's transformation since season 3, I love the Jim/Pam relationship, and I think the microwave thing was validated and the chair thing in character (Remember Chair Model and the Halloween episode from season 2 where she fawned over Michael's costume for a moment to avoid being apart of downsizing?) So, yeah, I say give the writers a chance to develop it more. She's only been back from art school for three episodes, and she was really only prominent in two of those.

January 4, 2009 3:00 PM
Clea
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It is hilarious sometimes to read the comments that the Chloe lovers have for the reason why Lois is such a bad character. Boss-banger and college dropout; WOW! If I remember correctly, I don't think anyone graduated with a college degree. And,it is not Chloe is the epitome of moral values; just Sebastian from the Identity episode on that one.

It may be hard to believe to some people, but you don't always have to have a college degree to be a writer. Most of the good writers haven't set foot in a college classroom. Every now and then lighting strikes, skill and tenacity (with a helping dose of determination) is all that is needed to start living the dream. I did it and all that is missing is the thousands of dollars of student loans that I didn't have. I'm not advocating not going to college, because I now attend and can afford to without taking out a loan. I am just saying that it is not completely unbelievable for individuals with Lois, Clark, and Chloe's non-college degree credentials to working for a newspaper. After all, this is fiction.

January 4, 2009 5:08 PM
Smallville
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replied to comment from Kat

"Heaven forfend that you would have to argue on the grounds of character development and other such adult critiques."

I see many Lois bashing on this site attacking the actress Erica. Now if you want to talk about being an “adult“, what about those people. It's one thing to hate a character on a show, another to hold that grudge against the actress who plays her with such ugly venom. I personally may not care for Lana on the show but I never will hold that against the actress who plays her.

As for my use of the word “deluded“, I think it perfectly describes the Chlois theory, which is nothing more then a fan wish by a small select group of people who watch the show. It's cool if that is what they want to happen, but it's been fairly obvious that it wouldn't happen for quite awhile no matter how much they wish it would. When the producers of the show on many occasion come straight out and say it won't happen maybe people should accept them at face value instead of holding it against an actress who does play the character of Lois Lane, unless of coarse they are "deluded" (def. to make someone believe something that is not true).

I understand not everybody will like every character on the show, but Lois does have her share of fans as does Lana and Chloe. When I see though, arguments I hate Lois because (put most negative spin on everything she does) and Chloe is much better, it comes across nothing but a shipping argument. When I saw this article, I just felt I had to chime in my 2 cents that not everybody feels the way that the author does about the character of Lois. Since this site claims it has “no pity“, I thought I would call a spade a spade in the process.

January 4, 2009 8:50 PM
Jamie
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The best way to get rid of Denny on Gray's is to get rid of Izzy. Both the character and the actress are as annoying as hell!

January 4, 2009 9:04 PM
Rachel
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First of all, about some of the comments here... there is only ONE Lois Lane in everything that is related to the mythos (shows, comic books, movies, everything). The character traits are always there, and first of all, it is ridiculous to affirm that Chloe "is a better" Lois, or so to speak, because she is a WAY different character that without a doubt does not have Lois Lane's traits.

Now, about the article... I think it might be safe to say Angel Cohn wrote it based on his (or hers, I don’t know) preference for another female character or another shipper – the “It's not that we hate her (though we kind of do)” part left it pretty obvious.

You know, while I read countless positive comments about Erica Durance's acting in general and not just in Smallville, I've never seen one single negative comment about it. Yeah. I am a fan of hers, as an actress AND as a person. And I'm a fan of Lois Lane as well, and that is why I say her portrait of the character seriously rivals (and is sometimes better than) Margot Kidder's and Teri Hatcher's. She brought the character to life. And the “googly eyes”? I’m sorry, but that’s how feelings start to grow. So the Comic Books’ Lois Lane has never given Clark Kent and Superman the “googly eyes”? Are you sure? Hasn’t Teri Hatcher given HER Clark Kent the “googly eyes”? Hasn’t Margot Kidder given HER Superman loving, amazed looks? So what’s the problem with this version of Lois Lane being swept off her feet by her Clark Kent? She went through confusion, she went through denial, she went through the “googly eyes” and all of that was shown WHILE she was working, WHILE she was chasing stories, WITH credibility, I might say.

A credible reporter always stands for the truth. A credible reporter – or even a simple commentator – must be objective in their articles and must ALWAYS base their affirmations on solid arguments, that must come from solid sources. And that is exactly what Lois Lane does, while giving Clark Kent the “googly eyes” (and receiving them RIGHT BACK) or not.

Television without pity, huh? As a "solid" mean of communication, maybe this site should be criticizing things like scripts, the shows’ tendency to follow the same old "boy/girl-fall-in-love-and-then-there's-a-complication" plot, the production, the effects, possible strikes, and not making comments without a tangible structure about one single character or actress, just because they don’t like them.

January 6, 2009 2:24 AM
Brijeana
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Yeah heroes was fun at first. But c'mon it's a 4400 rip off only more shiny. So now that the shine has dulled on their re-imagined 4400 premise they should borrow something else from that show: CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT. Stop using your characters for cheap thrills and actually have story lines that develop over time. I loved season 1 and some of season 2 but season 3 lost me in the rear view.

Smallville should never have brought Lois on the show if Chloe was to be Lois. As it is Chloe has developed into too much of a Clark cheerleader/worshiper/sidekick to have a Lois Lane dynamic with Clark. Maybe her memory loss will trigger a personality change. LOL! Chloe and Journalism went together like peanut butter and jelly. Ironically the closer Chloe got to her dream the more like a sidekick she cheerfully became. Lois Lane is no sidekick. I love Chloe but NO. As much as the Chloisers on TWOP could care less how bad a story Smallville would have to develop in order for Chloe to fill Lois Lane's shoes there are some viewers who don't wish to see the wonderful fun of Season 8 take a nosedive for silly fan theories. LOL! Yeah if DC comics had allowed SV to have Lois Lane from the jump maybe she would have been on the show since day one AND been editor of the torch but would they have even cast Allison Mack in the role? Would Lois have been Clark's biggest fan since age 12? No lets let Chloe be Chloe and Clark be Clark and Lois be Lois. But hey, I agree about the doe eyes. As wonderful as the build up to Clois romance has been let's see Lois in action. I want her to do some investigating for the rest of the season.

Yes I agree! Bones needs to stop teasing us. I vote for Wendell Bray! :D

January 6, 2009 8:26 AM
Helen
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YOU ARE SO OFF YOUR ROCKER, ANGEL COHN ABOUT #6!

Smallville in NO WAY shape or form needs to get rid of Lois Lane. Are you nuts? Lois Lane and Clark Kent have been together for 70 years! It's history, it's destiny, it's the way it's going to be forever and it's the way it is NOW.

I guess it's easy to lump you now with the delusional "Chloeville" fans because your little pitiful resolution sounds exactly like one of the quack comment of extremists Chloe fans.

Let me just give you a little education: Smallville is NOT about Chloe Sullivan who is not even a BLIP ON THE FRIGGIN DC UNIVERSE.

I cannot wait to see Smallville end because that will definitively be the DEATH OF CHLOE SULLIVAN and the LOSERS WHO WORSHIP HER!

And as for bashing Lois: She went out with her boss and is a college drop out. Well, I'll raise you a Chloe ONLY getting into the Daily Planet through a DEAL with LIONEL LUTHOR! You worship a back-stabber, Cohn and no amount of "selective" amnesia will change that.

January 6, 2009 10:32 AM
Laura
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#6...In the words of the legendary Lois Lane herself - ARE YOU ON CRACK? Lois is best thing in the entire show! MORE LOIS! MORE LOIS MORE LOIS! *starts chanting*

January 6, 2009 11:31 AM
Alice
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I so agree with you on Smallville, they should get rid of this Lois Lane. For me the real Lois Lane is Chloe Sullivan anyway, she's the true reporter of the family :)

January 6, 2009 1:19 PM
Laura
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How is Chloe the 'real Lois Lane'? I just don't understand this logic. Chloe is Chloe, and Lois is Lois. And how come Chloe's given up reporting and Lois is an ace reporter and yet Chloe is still the 'true reporter of the family'?

February 10, 2009 2:33 PM
Belinda
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I'm amazed at how some scream "canon" when Smallville veers off from the comics (check out the REQIEUM episode thread in the forum) but then see the same people making practically worshipping Chloe and yammering in on about her deep bond with Clark Kent. Lana and Lois are both iconic characters wherase Smallville pulled Chloe out of thin air. You wanna talk mythos?

February 10, 2009 2:35 PM
Belinda
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I'm amazed at how some scream "canon" when Smallville veers off from the comics (check out the REQIEUM episode thread in the forum) but then see the same people making practically worshipping Chloe and yammering in on about her deep bond with Clark Kent. Lana and Lois are both iconic characters wherase Smallville pulled Chloe out of thin air. You wanna talk mythos?

March 26, 2009 10:57 PM
organicallymade
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amen! less girlfriends more brother bonding/fighting/bitch&jerk...and no more vampire sammy...

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June 16, 2009 1:52 PM
Ooglebug
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About #6 - Lois is the main reason I watch Smallville... so erm I completely disagree.
I love Chloe too, don't get me wrong, but Lois is such an enthralling character - one minute she's hilarious, the next minute she's breaking your heart (Infamous barn scene :O). As for Clark and Lois' chemistry - I've never seen a stronger one on TV or film. Clark and Chloe are FRIENDs, maybe there is underlying romantic history that definitely makes an occasional appearance, but real feelings of love just aren't there except in a platonic way. Allison Mack herself said that she likes their relationship because its one of the few examples of a boy/girl relationship where sex and romance isn't the factor behind it. I don't mind people shipping them or seeing chemistry, but it's clois in the end.

April 21, 2011 5:48 PM
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December 14, 2011 2:34 PM
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