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5 Reasons This Susan Boyle Crap Needs to Stop

by Mindy Monez April 20, 2009 12:27 PM
5 Reasons This Susan Boyle Crap Needs to Stop As you've no doubt noticed by now, Britain's Got Talent contestant Susan Boyle has recently taken over the world. She is everywhere, and I'm being told incessantly that I'm to find her an "inspiration," even though that makes no sense. I don't begrudge the woman herself for it, because how was she supposed to know the world was going to go apeshit over her? Aside from being really sick of having Les Mis stuck in my head all the time now, I do, however, have a huge bone to pick with the media fervor, and here's why.

Simon Cowell Obviously Knew She Could Sing Beforehand
No way did she make it to the Britain's Got Talent stage before passing some kind of screening process, meaning the producers -- including Simon, and probably hosts Ant & Dec as well -- knew already that she was going to be able to sing. I don't deny that the shocked reactions were entertaining to watch, but they were also fake as hell.

If You've Never Been Kissed, It Was Probably By Choice
The part of her story the media seems most moved by is her claim that she is not only a 47-year-old virgin, but that she has also never been kissed. We're supposed to feel really bad about this, but I'm sorry -- how many truly unfortunate-looking people do you know who have managed to find somebody to make out with at least once in their lives? She's either lying or it was her choice not to do so. Either way, I don't really care, and it's not a reason for someone to be famous.

She's Not That Good
If she were attractive and had the exact same voice, she wouldn't have gotten any attention. There is something so condescending about lavishing huge praise on someone for sounding slightly better than the sad reality TV crazy they appeared to be.

This Has Gone from Harmless Human Interest Story to Horrifying Bastardization in Record Time
I refrained from talking too much about Susan when her story first broke, other than saying I don't really get the excitement over her, but now the poor woman's been publicly offered everything from makeovers to her own porno and a whole bunch of other insulting crap in between since then, and all I'm saying is this is just bringing out the commercializing worst in everyone. Saying someone is an inspiration for not being ashamed of looking the way they do when you think she should be is bad enough, but then insisting they need a makeover so both parties can make a few bucks is contradictory and infuriating. And the porn thing, while not surprising, is just plain horrifying. Can we just leave the woman's purported virginity out of everything and not make money off of it?

How, Exactly, is She Inspiring?
I'm honestly just asking here. Is it because she has the strength to go on living despite not being gorgeous? That seems to be what I'm being told day and night. How amazing! I know we all already knew this, but the media really, truly is the worst.

What do you think of Susan Boyle? Is she awesome or overrated?

109 Comments

April 20, 2009 1:26 PM
k8iegirl
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I'm going to assume that you won't read this, but I'm going to explain why *I* was touched by her story anyway; She is a 47 year old woman who took care of her mother until she died and has not been really given a chance as a professional singer before because she wasn't considered "marketable" enough. I thought her version of I Dreamed a Dream was quite nice; she has a lovely voice and that song is not an easy one to sing.

April 20, 2009 1:54 PM
heidi
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While I agree the whole thing is blown out of proportion, and Simon's reaction is certainly staged (as is everything on Simon's various talent shows), I also think there is still plenty of genuine reaction to a pretty neat story.
The crowd's reaction isn't staged - they're derisive and then become overwhelmed.
And I agree the singing isn't the best there ever was, but it's still pretty cool that this lady, who had a ho-hum, possibly quite sad life. She spent years taking care of her mom as k7iegirl said; I believe she has some health issues from being deprived of oxygen when she was young... This doesn't make her a saint, but everyone likes a good underdog story.
Sure, it's kind of shocking how far it's gone, and the porn offer is just plain ridiculous, but why begrudge folks a feel-good tale in these sh***y times?

April 20, 2009 1:56 PM
heidi
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Oops, I meant to write "it's still pretty cool that this lady (...) made it on stage and got to wow everyone."

April 20, 2009 2:05 PM
amroyo
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I'm with K8iegirl. It is inspiring that a truly decent person is getting her chance to shine. It's inspiring for someone to stand out on that stage and hear the snickers and laughter but still perservere. I probably would have run off the stage or be so upset the song would have sounded like crap.

The media is going apeshit over her but I cannot control that. All I know is that when I heard her sing I cried. I cried for everyone who has been made fun of. I cried for those who never have enough confidence to go after their dreams. She could have, just as easily, been a train wreck but it she wasn't. She had hope and talent and that is inspirational to me.

April 20, 2009 2:06 PM
Kit
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I wondered how long it would take for someone to decide to be reeeeally clever and write a denunciation of all things Susan Boyle. Took you longer than I thought.

April 20, 2009 2:07 PM
Ben
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You forgot one of the most important reasons:

This same exact scenario JUST happened last year! Am I the only person that remembers Paul Potts? It's ridiculous how no one's calling them out on this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEo5bjnJViA

April 20, 2009 2:08 PM
Steve
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I'm with Mindy on this. I don't begrudge the lady her 15 minutes, but I'm rather offended at the justification for this story as it was first presented to me. I didn't know anything about the woman's history, all I was told that it was somehow amazing and inspiring that an unattractive woman had a pleasent singing voice. Have people really become so petty and shallow that something like that qualifies as amazing? Many in the news media seem to think so.

April 20, 2009 2:14 PM
Curious...
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Yes, I was amazed when I heard her sing, and touched watching the audience's reaction - from rolling their eyes to awestruck. But while I'm no professional and never watch Idol, etc., doesn't she have a pretty amazing voice?? I have to think there's not a whole lot of untrained people sitting around in their living rooms who are able to sing that rather challenging song THAT well. I agree with all the other points about how crazy this has gotten, but was surprised so many of you think her voice isn't really that good...

April 20, 2009 2:18 PM
Kathryn
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Oh, it's inspirational all right. The inspiration is that after a lifetime of caring for her mother and having a life limited by her responsibilities (and possibly by her learning disabilities, to some extent) that she can begin at 47. But the whole "Wow, who would have thought that someone so unattractive could have any kind of worth?" thing is a bit nauseating.

April 20, 2009 2:24 PM
meghan
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She's not THAT good? How well can YOU sing, Jerk?

April 20, 2009 2:25 PM
Michelle
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She WAS trained. Her bravado was too refined to be a "natural belter" and from her posture you could tell that she knew what she was doing. Her performance was a very competent job from a trained professional (who apparently never found work). Nothing earth shattering, or I bet she would have found SOME work. What I resent is the implication that she's an ugly duckling. She doesn't want to be Billie Piper, she just wants to sing. So why do we all get a nice warmy fuzzy feeling that we can enjoy listening to her even though she's not a tween beauty queen? I don't like what that says about us - that that's all we need to pat ourselves on the back. It's funny to watch the crowd switch loyalties, but you know we would have thought the same thing in their shoes. To me, the whole thing is a rather dark commentary on human nature.

April 20, 2009 2:25 PM
Kathryn
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Curious, I'm a working singer, and yes, her voice is awfully damn good. What it isn't, is the best voice of our time, or anything like that. There are hundreds if not thousands of people scratching out a living as musicians who are just as good. That's impressive as hell for someone who's untrained, but it's not a miracle.

April 20, 2009 2:31 PM
Megg
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Yes, I'm going to have to agree with you Mindy. I'm happy for her and she seems to be enjoying this and she herself hasn't done anything wrong, but am I really supposed to feel moved that she has somehow overcome his huge obstacle of not being hot? I agree that if she looked pretty and had the same voice this wouldn't be an issue. I hope she does well, but I don't care if she's never been kissed. That is a non-issue.

April 20, 2009 2:36 PM
Ben
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Re: The crowd reactions...

There's a very good chance that they're faked. Its how these shows work. They film audience reactions during the entire show and then splice them in for dramatic effect to convey whatever they want. Think of every comedy special you've ever seen.

That girl in the audience rolling her eyes could have been reacting to some other dumb act or even a judge's remark, and they decided to put it in there to convey "oooh the audience thinks she'll suck"

April 20, 2009 2:38 PM
cactiki
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While I do think she is a very good singer, I must agree with the point that it is very condescending. It is like someone is saying "you sing pretty good for a ......" just like the way they have been saying the blind guy on American Idol is an inspiration. Or the deaf guy on Amazing Race.... have they never heard of Stevie Wonder, Ronnie Milsap, etc?

April 20, 2009 2:49 PM
Constantinople
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I can't speak for where the writer lives, but on Planet Earth, if you're attractive, you're presumed to be competent at the task at hand, whatever it is; and you're given many more second chances.

If you're unattractive, you're presumed to be a loser who is, at best, taking up airspace that could be better filled with photos and stories of mimbos and bimbos, many of which populate craptacular shows that TWoP deems re-cap worthy.

April 20, 2009 3:04 PM
Sara
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AMEN. I'm happy for her and all, but I agree with every point you made. I also agree with the commenter about how this is exactly what happened with the opera singer guy on this show before. HOLY CRAP unattractive people can sing. Amazing.

April 20, 2009 3:06 PM
Saint Saturn
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I have to say that I agree with Mindy for the most part. It's ironic that everyone's clamoring to love all over her, saying that her looks don't matter and all. But if they really didn't matter, I don't think there'd be such a fuss.

And really? I thought the reactions and the whole media circus is very back-handed. She's being told, "Wow! We thought you'd totally suck hardcore because you're an uggo, but you're actually a pretty good singer!"
Sad circumstances with her ma aside, this whole thing is total dross. She's an unfortunate-looking woman who can sing better than people thought she could. This is hardly deserving of all the hyperbole and for christ's sake, a porn? Come on.

April 20, 2009 3:06 PM
rhymeswithlevi
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"She WAS trained. Her bravado was too refined to be a "natural belter" and from her posture you could tell that she knew what she was doing."

Just a gentle correction - it's 'vibrato' not bravado.

Also, she was displaying the techniques of correct singing in her posture. It's one of the first things I teach my students in their music class. You don't have to be a professional to know to stand with good posture when you are singing. It's basic to the experience.

Some people are 'natural belters" if they were born with the pipes for it. Singing is a skill which can be learned, but how big your voice is largely depends on your physiology. True, it can be improved through training, but only to a certain degree. For example, a lyric soprano will never sing like a contralto.

Thanks for reading my post.

however, I have heard enough about Susan Boyle.

April 20, 2009 3:14 PM
Jessica
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I agree with Ben,
The first thing I thought of when I heard about Susan was how this has happened before on the same show, with Paul Potts. Everyone has seemed to forget about him though.
So I think that is why I am not as excited or moved by Susan Boyle, I feel as if in a short amount of time people will forget about her too.

April 20, 2009 3:20 PM
Cody
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All this proves is the power of Simon and his well-oiled publicity machine. He got everyone talking about this woman as if she was the second coming. The woman probably wouldn't have gotten on the show if she was beautiful and had the same voice. It's all a marketing gimmick. Sometimes being homely is more advantageous. Guess people could identify with this woman and not feel threatened by her looks hence the faux empathy.

April 20, 2009 3:24 PM
Terri
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I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to disagree with the "She's not that good" Do you have any idea how hard that song is to sing? How many different keys are involved? It's also the moment in time that she represents-people are feeling a little unmoved by things, they just seem to need something to be inspired by-since when did that become a bad thing? When did that warrant an analysis of it? When did we become so cynical that we need a top 5 of why we're over a story that's been around for a week and a woman that seems to be harmless and happy? Normally I love the snark-hell go after Taya or Speidi or whatever else, but this just seems slightly misplaced here. It makes me kind of feel that all you're looking for is something to be snarky about and not a pop culture analysis at all. So is a staged reaction better or worse than an article aimed to cement the backlash on a harmless, nice story?

April 20, 2009 3:29 PM
Kathy
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She's admitted to training that she stopped when her mom got sick, and she gave up everything to take care of her mother-isn't that the crux of her feel good story? Not just her looks? And that she always wanted to be a professional singer and made that promise to her mother? That's what I got out of it anyway. And how are we any worse than the media going after her virginity or her eyebrows, by going after how we don't care about either and are unimpressed. I don't know-gonna have to disagree with you on this one-with the advent of the internet, yes things take on a life of their own, but analyzing everything to death and being contrary to the mainstream doesn't always make it right.

April 20, 2009 3:30 PM
Jos
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I think she's inspiring for what she tells us about ourselves, our stereotypes and our culture. For herself, well she's just a normal person with strengths and weaknesses getting on in the world as best as possible. Good on her.

April 20, 2009 3:35 PM
Nora
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No matter how nuts the media has gone over this story (and they have gone nuts!), she does have a great voice. She also has a great ability to interpret a song and deliver it with honest emotion and gravity. That's what struck me when I heard her the first time.

As for it being done before in S1 with Paul Potts, well I agree to an extent. But she's far better than Paul Potts. He's okay. But not that good. And I don't think people have forgotten him, he keeps getting brought up when her story is mentioned.

I just like the idea of someone getting a chance at something later in life. Yes, there are lots of great singers out there (better singers probably) living a similar life of normality and not getting any attention. But that's kind of the point. I don't find it inspiring, but I can see how some do. She took a chance to come on the show and be heard and now she's being heard on a scale no one could have imagined.

I do not however like the insinuations in the media that her life before all this attention was terrible. Just because it was unextraordinary doesn't mean it was bad. It's the life of a lot of people.

April 20, 2009 3:37 PM
Curious...
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Thanks Kathyrn and others - it makes a lot of sense. guess I just wish I could sing like that!!
And Ben, on the crowd reactions - you just reminded me why I haven't watched reality TV since the first Survivor season, when I realized I had been manipulated the whole way by editing.
I am curious to hear what she chooses for her next performance, and will be looking for it on YouTube, regardless of what she looks like. And today's news already has word of another amazing performance this weekend from a kid, so this story may be over sooner than we thought.

April 20, 2009 3:38 PM
Snark Shark
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I am truly, deeply disappointed in you, Mindy!

Oh, not for railing on Susan Boyle. I couldn't give a fig about her. But you let Ant & Dec get off scott free! And if you've ever seen those twits, they REALLY deserve to be mocked. Even in the now famous Susan Boyle clip they keep gibbering on like a pair of unruly chimps the whole time she's singing!

April 20, 2009 3:38 PM
Amanda
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Mindy, let me list the things that "inspire" me about Susan Boyle:

1. She took care of her sick mother for almost 20 years and, outside of church and the occasional karaoke pub, has had no social life.
2. She has been picked on and laughed at by kids in her town for years and has maintained a cheerful disposition.
3. She's had to contend with a learning disorder which must have limited her options after high school.

As for the people who think that "she's not that good", hearing a classic, mature voice singing a song written by, and for, grownups must have been a new experience for them.

April 20, 2009 3:46 PM
scully546
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I also didn’t think her performance was that great, but lots of live music sounds wishy washy to me. I blame the quality of the recording I listened to online. I am happy for her that she finally got to achiveve a peice of her dream. What ever comes of this, she will always have the night that she sung for millions of people on tv. Sure beats singing in to your hair brush in the privacy of your studio apartment.
I think it’s so stupid and sad that everyone is making suich a big deal over the fact that they are shocked that an ugly woman can sing nicely. Susan seems to be handling all the makover bullcrap and back handed compliments pretty well, so good for her.
I can only imagine what my women’s studies teacher would be saying about this in their classrooms. We make a big deal about people like Susan, but also complain about the pretty people who let us down by not having the talent we expect from them (Britney Spears comes to mind). Why are looks even a part of that? Why do we expect ugly people to suck and pretty people to be great!? And why are all the bloggers and newscaster who talk about this not even trying to pretend that this is not how they think?? Everyone is like, “I was surprised that she could sing because she’s so grotesque looking!” It just makes them look like a jerk when they say that.
Also, Susan Boyle recorded a song ten years ago on some charity cd. There is no way Simon and the producers of that show didn’t know this. Not only do they check on the people they choose to air, but I am sure there is some sort of form that contestants fill out that asks about past experience and I would bet my house that Susan answered it honestly.

April 20, 2009 3:52 PM
Paolo
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Here's why I disagree with you completely: I saw her video, well before the media exploded the story, and I was genuinely touched by it, and so were my friends who saw the video. It wasn't because entertainment shows told me that it was touching, or because Simon Cowell made it look like his heart melted while watching her sing. It was because it was genuinely moving that this obviously talented woman is 47 years old and was never given a chance before, obviously because she wasn't a gorgeous Hollywood-type hottie. And now she's finally getting that chance she's always wanted, without changing anything about herself.

So I don't begrudge her this experience that you call "Susan Boyle Crap". She totally deserves the attention her talent has given her.

April 20, 2009 3:53 PM
JeezLouise
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Is there a prize to be the first to be "over" every new media phenomenon? Susan Boyle hasn't even had the proverbial 15 minutes in the spotlight and you are scrambling to toss her into the trashheap. The show hasn't run its course. She is a wonderful singer. Listen to the 1999 recording of "Cry Me a River." It doesn't have any manipulated, edited storyline. It's just a song. And as far as I know, Susan never claimed to lack any experience or training. She said she "always dreamed of performing before a LARGE audience." She is cerainly better than many past and present Idol contestants, and many of them have had a lot of professional training and plenty of performing experience. Just no recording contracts. I personally don't care for Andrew Lloyd Webber music at all, but I do know it's not for weak voices. I'd like to hear Britney Spears attempt one of them.

April 20, 2009 3:55 PM
T
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What I found inspiring was not so much her voice--although it's good. What I found inspiring was that the crowd changed so completely simply because of her voice.

Maybe it was false, but I'm not so cynical as to think that. From the way the audience was acting, I suspect that there had been a number of silly contestants before this and they were primed to consider Susan Boyle just another ridiculous person. Of course, we know better watching the video, because something that popular is not going to be just another stupid auditioner. She's either going to be spectacularly bad or spectacularly good.

Why are we going nuts over a homely, feisty Scottish woman with a pretty good voice? Maybe it's the Sea Biscuit effect. There's been a world-wide malaise for a number of months and we clutch for any inspiration we can get.

After all, is it any less inspirational to have a dumpy middle-aged spinster enthrall a crowd with her singing than for a black man to become president of the U.S.?

April 20, 2009 3:55 PM
Ariella
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That song is a challenge to the pipes and I'm sorry if I'm "mainstream" to think she's great!

I think everyone should tell Simon to shut the eff up with his "poor me, I have to listen to crap singers all day" act.

April 20, 2009 3:57 PM
Suzanne
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Adam Markovitz on EW.com shares Mindy's opinion. He calls Boyle a "competent, but by no means extraordinary singer" who as a "decent voice". He even complains about the PYTs (pretty young things) on American Idol who don't get enough attention. Of course, pretty young girls have SUCH a hard time getting anyone to pay attention to them.

Check it out. Susan Boyle: What's the big deal? on EW.com.

April 20, 2009 4:08 PM
Chritine
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I agree..I am over it. I was shocked that she was still a story this morning. It has gone from a nice story to a very insulting story to her.

April 20, 2009 4:10 PM
ChocButterfly
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I'm sorry, but I have to side with Mindy on this one and I'm glad someone finally said it! I don't have anything against Susan and I do think she's a very good singer...but the whole "she's so great I cried when I heard her singing!" it's a bit exagerated for me. I just thought she was very good, not out of this world.
And I'm sure she's a lovely woman, she seems nice enough, but not an "inspiring" story. She did have to take care of her mom, true, but 20 years and not be able to have a life? Hmmm....probably by choice or has a martyr complex. Specially since she mentioned having other siblings. Whatever the deal is, I don't blame her, I blame the media. But I don't think it's such an amazing story, I don't even think she's that ugly! She's normal looking, I know people who look like that. Hmmm...maybe I AM very ugly too!!
I wish her well, and I hope she can make some money out of this without getting eaten by the press in the process.

April 20, 2009 4:14 PM
Kathryn
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ChocButterfly, she had a traumatic birth with oxygen deprivation that left her with some neurologic deficits. Also, she's the youngest of a large family; traditionally, it's the youngest's role to take care of the aging parents. So I don't think there's much of a martyr complex involved here.

April 20, 2009 4:22 PM
bryankenney
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Mindy, you are dead on target. I enjoyed Boyle's soaring vocals, and the first thing I thought of was Paul Potts' similar performance. It seems a formula: take fat homely Brits and let them sing their hearts out. As for the "never been kissed" line, that is also part of an old saying... sometimes not meant to be taken literally. As you correctly point out there's always a man who would get with any woman as long as she's alive and willing. So if Boyle literally hasn't been kissed, it is by her choice. Question is are we, as a nation, as a people, that desperate for something or someone to "look up to"? Perhaps we should try looking closer to home, in our own individual lives for these apparently needed role models.

April 20, 2009 4:23 PM
Chriss
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I've got to agree with this article. Nothing against the lady, but her voice isn't even that great. People are going crazy over her BECAUSE SHE'S UNATTRACTIVE. That's it. If there was a hot young thing with the same back story and same talent, people would be sympathetic, but would not lose their minds as they are now.

I can't believe how shallow and vapid a person must be to have their mind blown by a dumpy older woman with moderate singing talent. As many unattractive Grammy (Oscar, Tony, Emmy, etc) winners there are, is this really a surprise?

April 20, 2009 4:24 PM
Nancy
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It was only a matter of time before some cynical voice had to emerge about this story. There has to be "it's popular so I must turn my nose up at it" take so that the rest of us can be reminded about what easily manipulated chumps we are.

Susan Boyle is inspiring because (1) her confidence (2)her personality (3) and that she didn't give up her dream. I'm 44, so seeing her turn her dream into reality reminds me to hold onto mine. I didn't see her as unattractive--she broke the convention that a "star" has to look a certain way.

I don't care if she gets a makeover--maybe she's always wanted one. Maybe she's happy just the way she is. I am a little tired of how some are treating her as sort of quaint. That says more about us and our culture than her.

I'll never forget that she stood on that stage with a big smile on her face KNOWING that she would "rock" the audience. She didn't even feel the need to stick around and hear the judges comments--she fulfilled her dream and was done. Who cares if the judges' reactions were fake. My reaction was real.

April 20, 2009 4:25 PM
pam
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i say shame on you. this women is an inspiration, and her voice is unbelievable. in these days of so much bad new, people all over the world struggling to get by, it so nice to hear some good new. and finally what give you the right to judge her singing. i'm betting that you couldn't hold a tune in a bucket.

April 20, 2009 4:37 PM
ChocButterfly
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replied to comment from Kathryn

But we've never been explained exactly what's her condition, she seems completely normal to me. And no, it's not the youngest's role to take care of the aging parents all by themselves, unless the others are SOB. And 20 years?? If you don't manage to get a life for yourself in all that time, I don't think it's anyone else's fault but yours. And it was never mentioned that she had a bad life, just because she had that experienced with her mom doesn't mean she was miserable. She probably enjoyed being with her mom because she loved her.
Everyone has had difficult choices in life and we try to make the most of it. The whole "I've never been kissed" tells me she's not as innocent as she may wants us to beleieve, because seriously, if she hasn't, would you go around and share this on TV?? Seemed a bit manipulative of hers.
But regardless, she may have had a very sacrificed life, and it was very nice of her to help her mom like that. And again, she does seem like a nice person. And now she can sing very well. Good. I just don't find it worlwide "inspiring". The whole deal is just cause she's not that pretty, and it's an exageration, because she's not that ugly either. She is NORMAL looking.

April 20, 2009 4:38 PM
Starling
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I love this sort of music, and I will say that Susan Boyle performed this song better than I've ever heard ANYONE do it. My friends agree. None of the other performances of this song on YouTube come anywhere close.

You say you're "really sick of having Les Mis stuck in my head all the time now"; why do you suppose that it is? Could it possibly be that her rendition of that song was haunting, unforgettable, as many of us found it to be?

Or are you listening to it over and over out of some form of misguided spite?

April 20, 2009 4:57 PM
Leeda
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She has a lovely voice, and I'm happy for her, but at this point I'm really, truly sick of reading about her. This whole thing feels like a manipulative publicity stunt. If they gave a damn about her, they wouldn't have played the "pathetic reality contestant" music when she first came onstage, and the judges wouldn't have rambled on about how everyoe was against her because of how she looked, like, I'm sure that made her feel great. I've read posts on another site saying that she is an angel, and her voice is a gift from God sent to guide us. Multiple posts. People, please calm down.

April 20, 2009 4:57 PM
Beckie
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Amen. Her voice is good, but there are better. I'm happy for her, but I don't understand what the big deal is.

April 20, 2009 5:12 PM
beeswing
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ChocButterfly, yes, it is traditionally the role of the youngest daughter -- in Europe, and up until about 60 years ago, in America -- to take care of aging parents if they required it.

I think it's lovely that Miss Boyle got to fulfill a dream of hers. Bonus: in doing so she's stirred up some strong emotions and interesting debates. Good for her.

April 20, 2009 5:20 PM
carrot
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Interesting. I never thought she was inspiring because she was ugly. I thought she was inspiring because she is a feisty broad of a certain age who did something she had always wanted to do, and did a damn good job of it. I had no idea that made me shallow, vapid, and easily manipulated.

As far as the music industry and its expectations, people keep mentioning Britney Spears. I'd like to mention in response: Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter.

April 20, 2009 5:25 PM
Carolyn
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Ya know what's worse? This woman went out and fulfilled HER dream and we all sit on the internet and bash it as if we had some right. That's more pathetic than the media manipulation of this woman. I hope too that someday those cynics accomplish something, be proud and have complete strangers around the world say things like "well you're not that great" or "what's the big deal". The opportunity was there, she took it, she didn't ask for it, and here we are, thinking WE'RE better than HER and completely within our rights to analyze her life, why she took care of her mom, why she chose not to marry, etc. Go do it to the Hills or Rock of Love, they deserve that, that's a totally different thing. And by the way, you're remark about "not a reason for someone to be famous"...Charlotte Church said the same thing about the FDNY after 9/11 when they were presenting an award. So what is a reason? Can't anyone be famous? I don't get it.

April 20, 2009 5:25 PM
joe
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Wow, so much anger over this. Why? Perhaps as good a puzzle as why people have made such a big deal out of this is why someone, who spends so much time sifting through all the crud on television and media in general, be so disgusted by this, enough to formulate a little treatise on it. Not many people really care about her not having been kissed as far as I can tell, and you have to admit she has better vocal talent, at the least, than any American Idol or whatever equivalent talent show winners out there. I can see that you're ultimately blaming the media, but why would you be so shocked that this is happening?

April 20, 2009 5:39 PM
Chriss
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Carrot, re: your Mama Cass/Karen Carpenter comment, that's my point exactly. There are loads of famous musicians (and other performers) who are not conventionally attractive; why people were so stunned by this woman's moderate talent befuddles me.

I mean Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles were blind, played instruments masterfully, and have both experienced immense commercial and critical success, yet people are going ape-shit over an average-looking middle-aged woman. Does not compute.

I'm happy for her, but I'm not super-impressed. She sounds fine. Good for her for finally pursuing her dream. I don't think that merits half of the rabid fandom she's acquired.

April 20, 2009 5:59 PM
carrot
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Chriss--Mama Cass had the best voice (IMO) of the Mamas and the Papas, but she was initially considered "too fat" to be a part of the group, and continues to be mocked for supposedly having died choking on a ham sandwich. (She died of heart failure and no traces of food were found in her esophagus or trachea during autopsy.) Karen Carpenter was very much conventionally attractive, and she died of anorexia.

You're right, there are tons of performers who are super-talented and not conventionally attractive. They are mostly men. Then there are the Katy Perrys and Britney Spearses, who have zero talent beyond the willingness to dress like a fetish model. That is the role of women in the pop music industry.

I don't know that Susan Boyle merits rabid fandom, but she has an amazing voice and I don't care if it makes me twee and un-hip--I cried over her lovely performance, and I wish her well.

April 20, 2009 6:04 PM
JM
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replied to comment from Ben

THANK YOU BEN! The Susan Boyle story is being covered as though nothing like has ever happened on the show, except it has!

April 20, 2009 6:19 PM
kricka
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I blame the media and our culture. The idea that 1) someone who isn't gorgeous and styled to death has talent seems so revelatory, and 2) that she isn't 15. Normal looking late-bloomers are doomed in our youth obsessed culture. I think she is a fine singer, and I hope if she wants a career singing, she gets it. I too am sick of the frenzy, and thought this week's Best Week Ever had a spot on piece about the craze.

She seems to be mature enough to handle all the craziness, but I don't really need to talk about it anymore (so of course, I chose to post about it... heh).

April 20, 2009 6:44 PM
Wilma
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replied to comment from T

Have you watched the show? People react like that all the time, standing up, applauding like that. After the umpteenth time it gets a bit old. Not that I don't think she has a good voice, but it's all becoming a bit staged. But good for her, hope she gets the 'dream'.

April 20, 2009 7:20 PM
Dawn
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I have to agree with Mindy.
For me? I thought it was a nice surprise. Someone was set up to be a "bad audition" and ended up being very good. Kudos for Susan!

That said, a)47 is not the end of one's life and for many it has been a new beginning. b) Her voice is beautiful and she should be happy and proud. c) It is getting out of hand and I am tired of hearing about people talking about her (not tired of Susan herself).

But why is she so inspirational? I've seen people list reasons and they are very good reasons, but sometimes I get the impression if there were people in our everyday lives like Susan, we wouldn't be as inspired.
This list is from one of the above respondents:

1. She took care of her sick mother for almost 20 years and, outside of church and the occasional karaoke pub, has had no social life.
2. She has been picked on and laughed at by kids in her town for years and has maintained a cheerful disposition.
3. She's had to contend with a learning disorder which must have limited her options after high school.

There are many people we see everyday whose lives look like this; there are people who are virgins at 47. Everyone, beautiful and not so beautiful, has dreams they want to come true. Many of us have had challenges and had to overcome those challenges. If I listed some of the things I had endured, would you be inspired by me? With my horrible voice? :P If you saw Susan Boyle on the street and spoke to her without hearing her sing, would you be inspired by her? I know some of you would, but the majority of people wouldn't pay her any attention.

I think that making Susan an "inspirational" person of the moment, makes the majority of people feel better for despising other people like her.

April 20, 2009 7:25 PM
jana
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Yes, it's disgusting that people are STILL shocked when a woman who doesn't fit into the traditional mold of beauty has any value or talent. But our culture is not past that point and that is why Susan Boyle is someone to celebrate. If there was another woman who looked like her receiving any accolades at all, it would be different. She's an opportunity for the rest of us to laugh at the idiots who automatically assume that beauty equals talent. Come to think of it, I can't think of one non-traditionally beautiful woman in twop's regular coverage. And I'm supposed to be critical of Susan Boyle?

April 20, 2009 7:37 PM
Serraph105
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You are right about all of your points except one. She is in fact that good. Notice the crowd reaction both before and after her singing and honestly I havent heard anyone with that much talent in a long time.

April 20, 2009 7:42 PM
Kathryn
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replied to comment from Serraph105

Serraph, she's good. She's very good. She is, in fact, as good as a lot of other very good people. But she isn't *noticeably better* than most other very good people. There are hundreds of people with this level of talent working in the United States.

April 20, 2009 8:26 PM
Serraph105
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replied to comment from Kathryn

anybody can say such a thing but you are not naming anybody with such talent.
I'm not saying she is the best ever btw (heck this is all opinion based regardless) but the fact is SB is incredibly talented and has could be doing broadway show right now. That is saying quite a lot.

April 20, 2009 8:29 PM
Marie
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I trained in opera for 7 years. This song is not that hard at all and I've heard it done at the same quality at a high school talent show. She is actually struggling with the lower range and I find it amusing that people go mad over any note over a B flat and held for more than 2 counts.

My friends made me watch this with my eyes closed and convinced me that I'd have my mind blown. While listening, I told them it was passable, but not amazing by any stretch of the imagination. It was when they got all huffy about what I said and told me to open my eyes that I realized it was nothing to do with the voice. Quite frankly, the insinuation that she deserves a pat on the back because she's an average jane disgusts me.

April 20, 2009 8:37 PM
Kathryn
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replied to comment from Serraph105

OK: Bernadette Peters. Andrea Burns. Heck, Elaine Page. All with at least this level of talent, all just people I can name off the top of my head who aren't even in my genre. (I'm a classical singer.) And as for doing Broadway. . . it is one thing to sing a single four minute song in an audition, and another to do six three-hour shows a week for months on end. Broadway's not a sprint, it's a marathon.

Again, don't get me wrong. I love her voice. I particularly love her rendition of "Cry me a River," and I'm really excited to hear what else she has to do. But while her talent is remarkable, it is not extraordinary.

April 20, 2009 8:59 PM
Boone
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I thought her performance was nice and it was a touching story and she seems like a very nice person who deserves happiness and success, but jeez, I can't believe that anyone thinks this is the best rendition of I Dreamed a Dream ever? I particularly liked the person who said if you don't appreciate her awesomeness it must be because you aren't familiar with this type of music. Or the one who thinks it's a "fact" that she could be on Broadway. I'm QUITE familiar with this type of music, having cast hundreds of off-off-off-Broadway musicals, and having heard this damn song a million times. And hey, she sang it well, but everyone who has ever sang it on Broadway has been much, much better.

April 20, 2009 9:05 PM
Andrea
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I thought she was quite good but what really got me about the whole thing was the difference in comments between her and Paul Potts. Potts was given a little incredulous reaction but the naked disgust in the judge's eyes at her was a marked leap in contempt. All because she was a woman who dared to not be gorgeous. Sad. All I can say is she deserves a bit of fame and money so have at it.

April 20, 2009 9:43 PM
KJ
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Gongratulations: you can kick a puppy.

This is neither clever nor insightful. Rather than provide insightful commentary, you are just being contrarian.

Susan Boyle is by no means my tasse de the--I'm not one for musicals--but she's not altogether uninspiring. She's a rather dowdy woman who never had the opportunity to pursue her own dreams. If anything, the opportunity to pursue one's bliss triumphantly is what's inspiring: if only we should be so lucky.

Before providing cultural criticism, it may be useful to figure what you are criticizing. Is it Boyle? Reality programming? Television media? Underdog over-appreciation?

April 20, 2009 9:45 PM
K.J.
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*Congratulations.

Before I write a comment, I should learn to spell.

April 20, 2009 10:04 PM
Leo
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Wow, you're all missing the point. "I'm a classically trained singer and I was unimpressed" Sigh. Good for you. That's amazing. I'm so glad that everyone who is a critic is on here, giving us their knowledge of how great THEY are as compared, and how they've heard 'better' at a HS talent show. Your responses are the entire point of why some people were moved and touched. THEY liked it-she has a good voice. She got to sing in front of a large audience. Why does everyone feel compelled to tear people down? Show off why they're better or more knowledgeable? Why? Isn't it just a nice story? What's wrong with that? It's so infuriating to have to read a story first on why she's not a big deal, second on people having to defend why they like her and then people on why those people are idiots and she's not that great. for the love of pete, this is why talented people are afraid to put themselves out there sometimes. Because even if you have a moment, someone else will be there to take it away. That's what's worse. And let me tell you-talent takes presence, poise and charisma and she has them all. It takes grace. And just as money doesn't buy class, neither does training which several of you have proven here today.

April 20, 2009 10:06 PM
Jason Safoutin
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"No way did she make it to the Britain's Got Talent stage before passing some kind of screening process, meaning the producers -- including Simon, and probably hosts Ant & Dec as well"

You obviously have NEVER seen Britain's Got Talent have you. There is no screening process. They line up outside the places in thousands. Sign the sign up sheets and off they go. How about watching maybe a few first episodes or maybe read Wikipedia.

For once the world has something to be happy about. So what if its inspirational to some or brilliant to others, maybe annoying or etc. But the point is, for once in the past year, it takes the people's minds off the band crap that happens in the world. Not it doesn't stop it or prevent it. But if for just a few moments in time, even if for just a second, Susan Boyle can make the world a HAPPY place, then what can be so wrong with that?

Susan Boyle is what many of us on this planet are: Everyday average people with a dream. Yes a dream. everyone has one, but whether you choose to admit it or not is another story. If this is what it has to take for us to realize how disgusting and obsessed we have become with ourselves, then you know, rock on Susan Boyle. Because we ALL need a fracking wake-up call, and guess what we got it.

Oh and here is one thing to ponder: Sick of Susan Boyle: then why did you go through the trouble of writing another article about her? :-P

April 20, 2009 10:11 PM
Ellen M
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I think it was pretty clear that Mindy was not criticizing Susan Boyle herself, but the media reaction and over-hyping. I also think that there is an intrinsic criticism of the manipulative "reality" TV genre which is totally scripted and orchestrated. For all we know, the crowd gave her a warm reception when she walked out. Or maybe they weren't that crazy about her performance and the audience reaction was "juiced."

If you got inspiration out of it, though, more power to you. It is nice to see an "average" person get some accolades. But by being totally incredulous that she could be a good singer, the media IS insulting her and those less attractive folks. It's like saying that Pres. Obama is automatically a great president because he is black, no matter how well or poorly he performs in the office.

April 20, 2009 10:17 PM
Ellen M
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Janis Joplin was not especially attractive. I always thought Aretha Franklin was pretty, but she was larger. And Mama Cass had hits as a solo, and nobody seemed to be surprised or stunned that she could sing well.

I do believe it's true that as pop music has become increasingly packaged and homogenized, looks and presentation have become more important. This is partly due to the influence of people like Simon Cowell, who usually has something mean-spirited to say about American Idol contestants' looks, sex appeal, clothing, or charisma.

Another top notch Broadway singer is Patti Lupone.

April 20, 2009 10:28 PM
jay
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of course it's all about a well-oiled publicity machine. that's precisely why there are thousands of good singers out there that don't have professional careers. just as there are a lot of professional singers that don't make it big like beyonce or taylor swift.

April 20, 2009 10:31 PM
Bryan
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Her story reminds me of the Warner Bros cartoon about the singing giraffe. They're treating her as if she's a singing animal.

April 20, 2009 10:53 PM
JeezLouise
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The media ARE, not IS. There's no single medium deciding what you see, hear and read.

Mindy, your 5 reasons are crap. None of them has anything to do with the fact that it was a moving, skillful performance from a charming and likable person. It was exciting and entertaining. The video told a nice story with a moral.

How is Susan inspiring? How you can miss the fact that she's a huge inspiration to anyone who thinks that it's too late and that life has passed them by is astonishing.

Susan is a role model for every middle-aged or older person who didn't pursue their goals for whatever reasons, including family responsibilities. This has nothing to do with being attractive or a virgin. Why are YOU concerned with those things? This has to do with taking charge of life.

That's what's inspirational about Susan Boyle.

April 20, 2009 11:29 PM
WholeLottaLove
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Susan Boyle is the female answer to the fantasy irresistibility of slobs like Seth Rogan. Except, she has discernible talent and no hot guy on earth is expected to fall for her. Double, double standard. She should sing the theme song to the next Bond movie so all the shallow types can just shut their eyes and think of England.

April 20, 2009 11:46 PM
Michelle
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replied to comment from Marie

That's odd bc I know many broadway actress'(yes personally, my friend is Jersey Boys) who were pretty stunned with her performance and discussed that it IS in fact a difficult song to sing-and I saw Melba Moore perform it on Broadway and she was terrible. So while I believe you have some talent, I don't know why you have to be derisive about someone else's.

April 20, 2009 11:58 PM
goldeneye
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I'm guessing Mindy is not yet 40, maybe not even 30. I loved watching Susan Boyle because the reception she was getting is painfully familiar for women as they get older, though exaggerated because of the venue. When Simon Cowell asked her how old she was and then sneered I cringed for her. (The nerve of him, he's the same age!). And you can see she knows exactly what's going on. She just has a lot of dignity, so she had the last laugh. Who doesn't love that?

I fear for her because of the media, it's true.

But I thought she had a really nice voice. I saw a clip of her singing a capella, and it has a nice tone.

But I can't take her too seriously about never being kissed. She's not even as homely, as people are saying. I just think if you're too shy to have ever been kissed, you're not going to say so on television. It is possible she's having her own fun with us.

April 21, 2009 12:08 AM
Leila
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When I listened to Susan Boyle sing her song, I was almost moved to tears by her voice. As someone who has been trained in music since childhood and has been in several productions, I know a good voice when I hear one and she could have been on Broadway with that performance.

She is an inspiration for those people who had never followed their dreams and thought that it was too late for whatever reason.

While the media thing may be over the top, your comments make you sound petty and bitter and beneath those you badger in the media. Why don't you grow up and try being happy for someone else for a change?

April 21, 2009 1:10 AM
P
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Wow, aren't you hip with the "it's cool to not like Susan Boyle" theme. If you don't like the hype, ignore it.

I find Susan an inspiration because she is living her dream. I think she has an amazing voice and there are tons of pretty people on American Idol that don't even come close to Susan's talent. She moved me to tears with her voice, and she deserves all the attention she is getting.

For all of you that don't think she's that great, I doubt that any of you have the guts to sing in front of millions of people while they are laughing at you.

April 21, 2009 3:13 AM
mashedtaters
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Ok, so while I agree that her voice isn't nearly as fantastic as Simon's "shocked" reaction would have you believing (I mean, really - listen to some of these people on Broadway, Incredible!), what really got to me was that she walked out and everyone was snickering at her. I loved how silly they all looked when she opened her mouth. It's just a nice reminder not to judge a book by it's cover...

April 21, 2009 5:57 AM
quizzie
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Gosh, I am shocked and awed at the suggestions that some of the acts in Britain's Got Talent might have been staged in order to give an amusing reaction from the judges.
Come on. Susan Boyle is a very good singer who couldn't have anticipated the amount of fuss her performance created. Whether she wins BGT or not, I'm sure she'll do alright. That's fine, she's not the second coming of Jesus, but nor should she be ridiculed because the hype machine went into overdrive when it came to her perfomance.
She seems a nice lady with a great voice - good luck to her.

April 21, 2009 8:28 AM
Logan
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"I know we all already knew this, but the media really, truly is the worst."

As an agent of Bravo, it's nice to know that you can be that in touch with yourself.

I agree with everything in JeezLouise's post; it was well articulated and sums up kind of how I feel as well.

I know it is Television WITHOUT Pity and most of the time, recappers, etc have valid reasons (Speidi, Tyra, etc as mentioned by someone upthread) for good old fashioned vitriol but the whole "If You've Never Been Kissed, It Was Probably By Choice" section is some of the meanest shit without much to back it up that I've ever read on this site. I have a friend (yes, really a friend, I'm not speaking in code)who has suffered from crippling shyness most of her life and although that's really offtopic, it's who/what I thought of when I read that particularly harsh part of this posted rant.

April 21, 2009 8:30 AM
mariposa2009
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Gee, that Mindy Monez sure is cool and edgy. Every single human being I know has watched Susan Boyle sing, and they, to a fault, all said it was a simply lovely experience watching all of it.

Perhaps she's not going to make the world a better place by having a much better than average voice, but neither is being a grumpy, predictable bore going to make the world a better place, Mindy. All that frowning will give you wrinkles to boot.

April 21, 2009 8:31 AM
Tom L
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That's an interesting analysis of the situation, but to say the woman is not that good... Are you crazy? Have you heard the song stuck in your head sung by other people? Susan's cover is mind blowing.

Plus, I think there's more on her story than "the strength to go on living despite not being gorgeous". Are you actually watching her interviews?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdDYDb3m7Cc

About the situation being staged, can you say that for sure? Yes, there has to be as screening process, but not necessarily with the judges. And giving that a lot that happens on the "reality" shows is programmed, is this point really an issue, as long as she can sing and move the audience?

Plus, it's offensive, not snarky, to put "crap" right after the name of a woman that isn't even responsible for the aforementioned "crap". Are you losing your powers?

April 21, 2009 8:40 AM
Tom L
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Oh, and don't put "Sit down, shut up" on her picture. Again, check your powers, you must be losing them.

April 21, 2009 9:05 AM
Carl
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You can't just put the word "obviously" anywhere you like. It has to be really obvious. And you can't prove that the Simon and the rest of the judges know what she's capable of beforehand.

And her voice is THAT GOOD actually. I've seen/heard several versions of that song in youtube including those sang by a broadway cast member, and Susan Boyle's rendition can easily rival theirs.

April 21, 2009 9:18 AM
Jeremy
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You are just being jealous, Mindy. You sound like a sour loser, and Susan isn't even compete against you!

April 21, 2009 9:41 AM
blue
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Susan has an amazing voice. Listening to her and the professional version of Les Mis there is hardly any difference at all! Fix her hair, eye brows and give her a lovely dress, she would be quite nice. While she is singing she looks good.

April 21, 2009 9:43 AM
Nik
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Maybe I am partial because Susan lives about 20 miles away from me, but I love the whole "Susan Boyle Thing." Why? Because it sums up my favorite quote: "It is never too late to be what you might have been" (George Eliot). How is that not inspiring? And why is it so bad that the media is seizing on a feel-good story that actually does make us feel good? I think the story goes FAR beyond "ugly"-woman-not-a-failure. I think it is the story of someone who has dedicated her life to others finally getting a chance to shine. As she said herself: she'd never been given a chance. I think we all dream of getting that chance. And to see someone getting it makes us all happy.

April 21, 2009 10:06 AM
NicB.
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Actually, if you listen to Ellen Page's verson of I Dreamed A Dream (the name that she said she wanted to be famous like and everyone rolled their eyes), Susan and Ellen's voices sound almost identical, which is rather a remarkable feat, considering how famous Ellen Page is and how much of an unknown Susan Boyle was.

April 21, 2009 10:11 AM
RMM
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Remember when TWoP had writers that you wished you could hang with when you watched TV? Now it's populated with hipster doofuses who think far too much of themselves and deserve to be mocked on their own lack of merit. The above commentary is just one example.

April 21, 2009 10:21 AM
Alys
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I agree with you. The fact is, while I think she has a beautiful singing voice, no one would bat an eye about it if she were pretty. I'd be horribly insulted if I were her, that they are making such a big deal about her being "an inspiration". Why? Because she wasn't afraid to walk on stage while being unattractive? There's a dozen character actors and actresses that should be considered equally inspiring then. The plan and simple fact is people think that if you are an unattractive person then you can't have any talent. Maybe the world should just realize that there are a lot of ugly people who can sing, paint, play music and do other amazing things and a lot of pretty people who are a waste of skin - and get over it!

April 21, 2009 10:58 AM
Frankie
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Perhaps it was just me - or just a British thing - but I thought her tone and attitude when saying "never been kissed" was a self-deprecating joke, not necessarily the truth.

Though I haven't really followed the media explosion since then. The newspapers and websites that have been reporting it aren't ones that I visit or read that often.

April 21, 2009 10:58 AM
sayra72
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replied to comment from JeezLouise

Les Miserables was not an Andrew Lloyd Webber show. It was based on the French version of the same show, which was based on the Victor Hugo novel. The music was composed by a French composer called Claude-Michel Schonberg. It's much more musically challenging than ALW's scores, which usually involve a lot of catchy hooks and are basically pop songs.

That said, I am kind of tired of hearing about her too. She has a beautiful voice, but enough with the 24/7 news stories! (Paul Potts came to mind in my house as well. I don't think he's been forgotten--he's sold more than 2 million albums and his second album is coming out this month....)

April 21, 2009 11:02 AM
Jenny
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For me it was never about HER appearance, it was about the fact that she was judged by the Hip Cool Machine that is the audience and judges of Britain's Got Talent. They judged her and dismissed her in their minds before she even started to show her actual talent.

Then she just opened her mouth and sang, and it was beautiful. I didn't doubt it could be, but it showed us how image is silly. How age really is just a number. How the media, television, and pre-conceived notions of the worth of someone based on a bullet sheet of height, weight, age, look is ridiculous. Most of us know this in day to day life, but this took the very people who manufacture the packaged BS and turned them on their ears.

Susan Boyle seems like a lovely woman who has been a good daughter and a kind person. She had no expectations beyond doing her best. She put herself out there under the glare of judgment and persevered. She made herself vulnerable and she won.

Seeing the little guy get his day has always been something people love. It was a win for the little guy. And the song she chose could not have been a better choice for her.

It's rare that we see the MOMENT someone changes their life, just by giving it a shot. We got to witness a comeuppance (judges), a beautiful song, and someone who has spent her life hoping and wishing finally get recognition.

So, please don't look at it and decide what we all think. It's not about that. It's about the fact that all of us have some Susan Boyle in us, some dream we've not gone for.. and she went for it.

April 21, 2009 11:17 AM
Marianne
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Well, Mindy, you are quite the mean spirited woman, aren't you. Susan has a natural talent and that can't be taught. She could get some classical training, if need be. I just heard her sing "Cry Me A River." It was excellent. You, my dear, are lacking empathy and the ability to look beneath the surface. This woman has been given a chance to sing for a wider audience. You have given yourself the opportunity to look petty and foolish.

April 21, 2009 11:22 AM
RhondaGC
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Thank you so much for saying EXACTLY what I've been saying all along to any of my friends who will listen.

Clearly the only reason people were shocked by her talent was the underlying prejudice that says an unattractive person can't possibly be talented or have any value. And that repulses me. I'm not blaming her for what has happened--how could she have known? But the "Oh my God I can't believe a 47-year old virgin even exists let along sings like that looking like she does" attitude which underlies most all of the coverage of this thing is insulting and demeaning.

And the offer of makeovers? When an attractive but clearly stupid person demonstrates talent on TV I don't see people rushing in to offer him/her private tutoring in physics or philosophy. But heaven forbid a person who is not conventionally attractive be content and confident in herself without seeing a need to change. There clearly is something wrong with such a person.

Pfft. I'm done with the whole thing.

April 21, 2009 12:02 PM
vaginny
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Susan Boyle is receiving all this attention because she is Unattractive. In other words - look what the funny-looking lady can do. That is what I find upsetting. If she was plucked, coiffed, pumped and starved her performance would have been received like other stand outs who have not received a raised eyebrow. We were asked to answer this equation: what does looks plus talent equal? Many people failed this test and are now anxiously seeking to understand how they the got the answer wrong. I hope they can calm down and consider why they got it wrong, not how. As for the duplicity of TV - I am not surprised. I do hope Susan has her own lawyer and can protect her own interests. Being caught up in the Idol Machine would be draining of all your resources. For this reason I always hope the best person does not win.

April 21, 2009 12:03 PM
DAN
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Damn Mindy, have you considered removing the large stick out of your ass?

April 21, 2009 12:49 PM
Frankie
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I think the fact that she was "unattractive" was only a minor part of the intial set up of the audience - BGT leading us down that path of "here's another clown to laugh at and ridicule" which was turned on its head with a genuine talent, the extent of which is being hotly debated now. It's not the first time this show has done this and probably won't be the last. It's an easy marketing ploy, espcially in the age of youtube and internet memes.

I don't think the reaction was only because she was unattractive. The whole set up (the music, the intro, etc) made us believe she was going to be terrible and she proved not to be. Our expectations were being played with - but these were expectations about issues beyond just how she looked I would say.

All of her quirks and "difficulties" were on show and highlighted to mark the contrast.

Mindy, you could just as well replace "learning disabilities" or "age" with the comments you made on attractive-ness up there and they would be just as applicable to how they were used by the show.

We were expecting to - and all of the context of the show encouraged us to - laugh at this woman and then it totally undermined itself (self-referentially) so that her performance was a shock, which can be seen when Ant and Dec said "you weren't expecting that now were you?" when she started to sing. They knew they were shocking us, they were attempting to do so.

Which, of course, also indicates that Susan was somehow pre-screened and the principle 'characters' were all pre-aware of Susan's talent.

But the audience weren't. Their reaction - initial gut reaction - as far as we can tell (though there may have been some fancy editing!) was a positive and encouraging one. Most of the people in that auditorium saw only a quirky, dowdy lady come on stage, seem like she was gonna make a fool of herself and then sing - and they stood up and applauded.

She must have hit the right note (barra BOOM!) somewhere!

I think everyone knows that these competitions are explotative. The show exploits the acts (good and bad) and the acts exploit the show. At least Susan Boyle seems happy - and certainly seems complicit and aware of what's happening.

If you're going to be outraged, surely you should be talking about those acts who are clearly mental or physically disabled and being taken advantage of - and then the nation laughs.

And the press doesn't flinch.

Surely that's something to get truly worked up about.

April 21, 2009 12:50 PM
Nightbaron
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While I often disagree with the pieces on this blog, I have to agree with this piece. Nothing against Susan Boyle herself, but after hearing her name a bunch of times, I finally checked out the video from a link my brother sent me. After about a minute, I stopped it. I found it kinda cute how she defied expectations, but that was about it. Her voice was really good, but didn't completely blow me away.

I then asked my brother why this was such a phenomenon at the moment, and he gave me reasons quite similar to those posted above by commenters. Power to anyone who finds inspiration, however I didn't see the big deal myself.

To each their own.

April 21, 2009 4:00 PM
Marianne
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I have a feeling Susan's talent will have much more impact on the public than your own, Mindy. Your little green monster is showing.

April 21, 2009 6:16 PM
Ken
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I find it so interesting that most of you bloggers that are able to get your name in print somewhere temd to be so negative towards moments like these. You fit right in with today's society of being negative and degrading towards anyone you can. This is the problem with todays society, it's more fun to make fun of someone or call them names, because it gets your name in print, or in some cases on television. You are probably the typical liberal that belives everything the liberal media tells you and could care less about hearing the truth about issues. The entire country is being dragged down the drain and all you can do is drink the cool-aid. Grow up and try to recapture some of the morals and ethics that made this country great. In other words, it's OK to be nice to someone and wish them well. Don't worry, you won't be laughed at and made fun of. That is the liberal side of the situation

April 21, 2009 7:17 PM
Manny
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I'm just sick of hearing about her. SO what if she isn't pretty but can sing OK? How is that news? Why is there a new "news" story about her every day? Do you think in the long run this instant celebrity, mostly based on how she isn't pretty, is going to be good for her? Every time I see another "news" story about her I feel like I'm being Rick Rolled.

April 22, 2009 1:43 AM
Kris
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Oh, shut the fuck up. Maybe if you had any talent (maybe you do, it's just not clearly in writing) you wouldn't begrudge people who do.

April 22, 2009 5:26 AM
Marie
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I can't believe so many people are missing the point of this article. Mindy's not sick of Susan Boyle herself but of the hysteria surrounding her.

Personally, so am I. I think Susan has a wonderful voice, but I'm disgusted that this has been made into such a big story. It's extremely patronising to Susan herself and it shows us all up as being shallow, judgmental fools. Yes, the woman is not fantastic looking. But why is it such a big deal that she can sing? Talent and beauty don't always go hand in hand. And this attitude of looking at her and gasping in amazement that she hasn't 'given up' just because she doesn't look like a model is a disgrace.

April 22, 2009 8:00 AM
Frankie
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Marie, I think a lot of reaction to Mindy's article has not been about what says she Mindy sets out to do - snark about the media surrounding Susan Boyle - but the way that she goes about it, namely in taking all of the things that the media have been talking about in Susan and deriding them!

Not so much nitpicking at the media's frenzy as much as Mindy seems to be saying that Susan isn't worthy of the media's attention because of a)just because she's unattractive doesn't make her singing a shock; b) she isn't that great at singing anyway; etc etc.

And it just seems a tiny bit sour grape-y.

Certainly more mean spirited than most of the snark on this website.

October 21, 2009 2:48 PM
Kate
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Kind of fun to go back to this old opinion. How does everyone feel now that Susan Boyle has broken all recores of pre-sales on Amazon with her 1st cd? Those with a real ear for music heard it coming. The rest said she wasn't really good. So there.

January 8, 2010 11:43 PM
Bill
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Thank God for a little sanity! I was beginning to think I was the only person on the planet who could see the obvious bullshit going on over SB. The whole thing was stage-managed to capitalise on the win by Paul whatsisname, who looked equally unlikely to stand a chance, and who also sang an operatic aria. There's not a woman alive who would go in front of an audience, for the biggest moment of her life, without doing SOMETHING to make herself look presentable. That whole dowdy look was an obvious ploy by the "Got Talent" team to garner the sympathy vote.

January 10, 2010 1:05 PM
Denice Turano
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Yup, couldn't agree more. And I'd like to add that you've got a great colour scheme on your site, I suffer with colour blindness and many webmasters don't give us a second thought!

January 29, 2010 7:09 PM
international tv online
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dang Susan has such a beuatiful voice, such great talent, I loved the moment she sang "I dreamed a dream". My entire family and I watched that show and my mother cried in happiness. It is so beatiful, I am so happy with her singing :)

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