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After my list of supporting characters I love last week, I was worried I was putting way too much positivity into the world. We can't have that, so here is the flipside! These are the current (current! Don't yell at me in the comments for excluding cancelled and/or already fired people!) scripted and reality characters who are a detriment to their shows, and oh, how we hate them for it. Yes, we are beating a dead horse here, but this list would look weird without the most hated screenhog in House history on it. There, it's said. She needs to go.
Randy Jackson (American Idol)
Ideally, we'd fire everyone but Simon from the judging table, but if we had to choose just one, Randy would be the first to go. He adds nothing to the show, says the same four things over and over, and if you're going to be a not-Simon on this show, please at least be entertainingly incoherent like Paula (and even then, we'd rather you just left the judging to Simon). Randy was fired from the recaps for a reason, people.
Samantha (Dancing With the Stars)
She can't read cue cards, which is bad enough, but when she's off-book she's even worse, asking some of the dumbest questions we've ever heard uttered on reality television. And last night she called someone a "poopyhead." Poopyhead! Why can't Cat Deely just replace her in the So You Think You Can Dance? off-season?
Kim Bauer (24)
You really can't tell me she had to come back in order for Jack to be saved last night. There are a million different ways the writers could have gone to cure Jack's exposure to TerrorMist, a made-up biotoxin that could be cured literally any way they felt like. That's the great thing about fiction -- you can make up any cure you want for a disease you made up, especially on this show. And when they know how much the fans vehemently hate Kim, and how she's never added anything to the show except annoying storylines (cougar, anyone?), her return was beyond superfluous.
Mohinder (Heroes)
Admittedly, there are a lot of people on Heroes who need killin', as most of them have becoming annoying parodies of their formerly compelling selves, but for us, Mohinder is the worst (yes, even more than Sylar). He's whiny, he's stupid, he's self-righteous for no valid reason, but most of all, he's boring. He stopped being interesting all the way back in Season 1, and not even giving him Hulk strength has justified his continued presence on the show.
Rufus (Gossip Girl)
It was a toss-up between Vanessa and Rufus here, but at least Vanessa does things. Rufus, on the other hand, makes us feel like we just downed a bottle of Ambien when we're watching his scenes. Is there anyone who doesn't fast-forward through his scenes? Is there a character more dull and worthless on television? No and no.
Charlotte (Private Practice)
Raise your hand if you don't care about her intimacy issues! Or her superior coffee! Or anything about her! I don't know about you, but both my hands are raised, high and dry.
Almost Everybody (Grey's Anatomy)
Hard to nail down just one from this show because a) it's really an ensemble, so supporting characters are difficult to classify, and b) most of the characters are annoying. So to make it easier, aside from Cristina, Callie, Sloan, Bailey and sometimes Alex, everyone else could up and quit, and we'd help them pack.
Lois (Smallville)
Another dumb character, we hate Lois mostly for stealing Chloe's rightful journalistic and screentime thunder. She may be nice to look at, boys, but a believable crack reporter Lois is so not.
Rebecca (Brothers & Sisters)
Set aside the fact that she's not even a Walker. That, I can deal with. These animals need to be exposed to non-Walkers from time to time for their own good, which is why I've come to terms with her de-Walkerization fairly easily. However, her relationship with Justin was chemistry-free and full of tedious fights, her inevitable hook-up with Ryan is unnecessary and clearly just a lazy reason to keep her on the show after her breakup with Justin, and her role as a marketing genius at Ojai is laughable. It's time to reduce her role on the show to Holly's home scenes only, especially when the amazing Scotty gets seemingly less screen time than Paige and Cooper these days.
New Ruby (Supernatural)
She was badass and blonde, and we didn't like it at first, but we got used to it, and then she was recast in a brunette meatsuit and became non-badass, and again we didn't like it at first, but guess what? We still don't like it.
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I cannot stand Samantha Harris. The week her voice was gone was the best week of that show this season, hands down.
I have to say I like the acting of New Ruby better, but she has softened up now that she's hooking up with Sam. Plus the fact that she's hooking up with Sam at all makes me want to send her back to the pit. :)
And I agree with Grey's...those are the only characters I would keep around, plus Hunt since he and Cristina are kind of a package deal lately.
i have an idea for season 8 of 24... make kim the villian! who wouldn't love to see her tortured by her dad?
Word on Mohinder. I stopped watching Heroes in the early Season 2 era and he was most of the reason. I never really liked him in season 1, but S2 made him completely intolerable.
May I suggest Ryan from The Office to be added to the list?
I don't know if he would be considered a detriment to the show, but I'm definitely so over him and his story line.
Love you, Mindy, but I have to disagree. Sylar is the one character whose continued presence on Heroes baffles me. Unless there are financial reasons, like it's cheaper to have an actor chew the scenery to splinters than to pay a crew to strike it down, Sylar should have stayed dead at the end of season 1. Don't even get me started on his unearned redemption arc, with the out-of-left-field "hunger".
I like your idea, nick. Jack has already battled his evil father and brother, so why not. While we're at it, they can bring Terri back from the dead (or a clone of her, or her evil twin, etc.) and have her and Kim plot to destroy the world together. The show has pulled so many unbelievable stunts that nothing would surprise me anymore (and yet I still watch...).
Mohinder is, however, really hot. For that, I'm willing to overlook any number of personality flaws.
Since we're removing judges, Nolé Marin can leave ANTM anytime he wants. And his little dog too.
I had stopped watching Heroes sometime after Season 3 began, all that I remember is that I ended up hating every single character. Incredibly poor development. If you don't get attached to characters it's easy to lose interest in a show. Mohinder was definitely one of the worst but I think I hated Peter and Claire most of all.
Nathan was the only one I liked.
And as someone who disliked Thirteen from the very beginning and preferred Amber, I feel vindicated. That Mary Sue needs to be killed off YESTERDAY.
Even though I love Sylar to death, I have wished in this season he had an early death since they have ABUSED his character this season. I'm even pro-killing him off this season to give him some mercy.
As for NuRuby, I so agree. I really dislike her and all the stuff Sammy has been doing with her. Everything.
Charlotte (Private Practice) - Totally agree. I think they've given way too much attention to this annoying character. She is a bitch and she doesn't deserve someone like Cooper.
Lois (Smallville) - I know she's supposed to be a brilliant wonderwoman in the mythos, but can't we just ignore that cause Erica Durance is awful. I bought her as the annoying General's daughter, but now as some sudden journalistic goddess? No no no.
Rebecca (B&S) - Don't hate me, but I liked Rebecca and Justin together or even separate. But I agree that Scotty deserves more screentime because he is just so damn likeable. Too good for Kevin? Totally. But I love him.
New Ruby (Supernatural) - Hate Genevieve Cortese as Ruby. I tolerated the character before because I bought her as a badass demon, but this new ABC Family castoff is so cheesy and unbelievable. Did they fill their "good actor quota" after they cast Jensen and Jared?
I vote yay yay on losing Lois, but I like Rebecca and /small voice/ I like Rufus and Rufus and Lily together. So, I guess that's one of us...
LoL, totally agree on Kim Bauer.. when they hinted at her being back last week I literally cried out NOO!!! Don't RUIN the rest of the season! Tho, I might disagree with your Gossip Girl pick... Vanessa's PRETTY irritating....
House & Grey's- I totally agree. But for some reason I kind of love Charlotte of Private Practice, so I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. She got really, really annoying for a while, but I loved her before this Violet baby drama, and the last couple of episodes have made me love her again.
Thank the lord others agree with me on the Charlotte issue. That girl's lower jaw could kick some ass, but seriously her storyline is getting a little worn.
I have to say that I dislike Cam on Bones. I love all the supporting characters and most of the rotating squints, but whenever she's on screen I take a little nap. What was with the scientist in the den episode? It was so Cam-centric and there was very little Bones Booth interaction which is why I watch. Then last week they totally don't even mention that she adopted a girl! What the hell, that just proves how useless she is. Get her off. The original guy was so much better
You know, I have to say that I am not surprised to find 'New Ruby' on your list.
Nois is as Nois does...nothing important yet so shrill. Bleh.
THANK YOU!!! I have hated Charlotte since the first cross-over episode. And when a person can hate a character before a show has even technically premiered, we have serious probllems with what's considered acceptable primetime tv
I don't get all the Rufus hate. Especially compared to the Lily love. Rufus is a good guy/stable father. He's responsible.
And I like Lois. It probably wasn't wise of the writers to spend SO much time building up Chloe's defining characteristic as being a reporter for so long, especially considering they KNEW Lois was coming...but I've actually enjoyed watching Lois evolve into a reporter.
Agree on all the rest.
Lois must die! Just save us the pain and kill her off!
I agree with Craig. Sylar's the one I hate the most. But I do agree about Lois (bleh) and NuRuby. I miss the old Ruby. She had an attitude that said don't mess with me. NuRuby seems like she's always pouting because daddy won't let her go to the mall with friends.
I don't mind Louis, especially since they finally got rid of the dead weight, Lana Lang.
I agree with Craig. Sylar's the one I hate the most. But I do agree about Lois (bleh) and NuRuby. I miss the old Ruby. She had an attitude that said don't mess with me. NuRuby seems like she's always pouting because daddy won't let her go to the mall with friends.
I don't mind Louis, especially since they finally got rid of the dead weight, Lana Lang.
So totally in agreement about Lois. Lose the dead weight and get on with the show.
I think Nole Marin's was replaced in cycle 6 or around that time. I believe Miss Jay took his place.
It would be a toss-up between Sylar and Mohinder for me, although earlier this season it would have been Hiro.
Lois on Smallville - ITA. I don't love to hate her like Ryan on The Office, either. I just hate her. What an embarrassment as opposed to an "icon". Icon of what, how to get a job without getting an education or working hard?
Samantha Harris gets a bad wrap. She has made mistakes, but I think she's better than that hammy, unfunny Tom Bergeron.
What are you talking about? Rufus is SEXY DAD. Sure it has to be a scene when he's not wearing a dreadful turtleneck but SEXY DAD, SEXY DAD, SEXY DAD.
I used to love Mohinder and now I don't even know who he is suppoesed to be. Last year ruined him and this year he's mostly dull.
Lois. Oh Lois. I don't think I've ever found a character more irritating and grating (which is saying a lot from a show that produced Lana Lang, the ultimate pink princess). But Lois not only is magically granted everything, she also acts and seems to honestly believe she is the best thing out there and everyone else is a chump. I don't know if I'll ever get past Lois's answer to "Should I be happy my best friend got fired?" "Absolutely!" Or the equally awful. "Hello! 'Cause it's me." Has someone mentioned the immoble face?
so let me get this straught....on your previous column you mention Chloe from Smallville on your list "I don't know who they are" but they need a mention....and YET you acusee LOIS of stealing screen time (weird cause the only one on screen this days on Smallville is Chloe...more than Clark actually, Clark is the star of the show btw in case haging out on this smallville forums told you other wise)
I isen't that a little bit contradictory? or you HAD to put Lois there to the crow here cheer you?
I'll put up with Mohinder, because he's hot. But he's also boring and stupid and should've been kicked off a long time ago.
But I actually like Thirteen and Rufus, on House and Gossip Girl respectively. Am i seriously the only one? Wow.
And I loved Ruby in season three, but with Genevieve Cortese playing her she's been ruined. Ugh.
so you don't know Chloe but apparently you ahte Lois for stealing something from her?
Advice: watch the show, don't hang out with the Smallville TWOPers and THEN you will have bases to "hate" someone
Sylar, Sylar, a thousand times SYLAR. He's just boring as hell and Quinto is an average actor at best. Mohinder may be annoying but damn, at least Sendhil is nice to look at.
Lois didn't steal anything from Chloe, considering Chloe was at the Daily Planet for 2 seasons before Lois even got there, and then they both worked there at the same time. What I find more interesting is that once Chloe got fired, CLARK went to the Daily Planet, and it was even said BY THE WRITERS/PRODUCERS that that was their plan all along. But, know what? Don't blame Clark cause you want Chloe to end up with him, lets blame Lois who is taking all the screen time even though shes in 13 episodes and Chloe is in 22, and lets blame Lois for Chloe realizing she belongs somewhere else. Its not like 2 gals, in the same family no less, can't both have journalistic talent or anything, how stupid would THAT be, right? Whatever,
Yes Nois must die, she adds nothing the the show and is not even funny.
So, how do you know you hate Lois for stealing Chloe Sullivan's thunder if you don't even know who the hell Chloe IS, as your own previous list demonstrates. I call foul. Sounds to me like you're pandering to the hate mongering people who frequent this site's Smallville boards in order to bolster your popularity with them. Say goodbye to your credibility, chica. You want to hate on Lois, why don't you actually watch the show first and form your own informed opinion instead of being a kiss up to some of the most militant fans on the planet?
Blogs I Hate Right Now: The Telefile -You are a sad, hateful and delusional Chlois Fan.
Re: Lois Lane-- You really need to read up on the general fans positive opinions of Lois Lane outside of the fucked up world of the retarded TWOP SV Thread.
{That sound you TWOP's heard after watching HEX was the rest of Fandom pointing and laughing at you asinine Theorists!}
Yes Nois must die, she adds nothing the the show and is not even funny.
Chloe was fired based on her own horrendous work ethic and fued with Lex Luthor. The only time she actually got any stories in the past few seasons were because of Clark and Lois anyways so I don't really see how Lois stole something that it seems like Chloe lost a long time ago in her persuit of being the best sidekick ever. But then you would not know that would you seeing as you don't watch the show. Way to give your self away.
Lois is not taking Choogle's time. Actually Clark decided that he can google himself and didn't need Choogle's help. Anyway Choogle doesn't have even time for journalism because she is busy making googly eyes , having an affair with a monster behind her husband's back especially after her husband was injured because of her.
How in the world can you claim to hate Lois for "stealing Chloe's thunder" when you DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO CHLOE IS!!!!
That's like saying you don't like asparagus because it's green, and brussel sprouts are also green.
Have you ever actually watched an episode of Smallville? (I'm guessing no, based on your Chloe comment) Do you have any idea just who Lois Lane is? She sure as hell isn't Chloe.
And if anyone's losing screentime, it's Lois, who was written out of five episodes at the expense of either Chloe or Lana? And in three of those episodes, Chloe was several steps below useless.
Why don't you try watching the show and making an informed decision, rather than just going along with the vocal majority of bashers and haters on this site?
I'm sorry, but have you ever heard of Lois Lane in the Superman mythology? You know, one of the top investigative journalists - if not the top reporter - at the Daily Planet and the second most important character in the story? How does this Lois' taking up the mantle of every other Lois who has gone before her stealing anyone else's thunder?
... Then again, reading the linked list of supporting characters you love explains some of it. You don't watch Smallville. So nothing you say about it has any credibility, really. I wish you didn't feel the need to pander.
Do you even watch Smallville? Seriously.
Do some research, outside of the narrow minded population of TWoP. Who's mission in life, sadly, is to hate on a character AND bash a human being (which is just terribly sickening), instead of oh, I don't know...appreciating who they DO happen to like.
You think she's stealing Chloe's screentime? Hm. Allison/Chloe has been in all Season 9 episodes so far whereas Erica? Oh yeah she's going to be in a total of 12. Only 4 of the last 12 episodes of the season. But yeah...she's really stealing all the screentime from Chloe, the little back-stabbing, monster-who's-going-to-kill-your-best-friend smuggling girl....who has had a majority of episodes focusing on her when the show is supposed to be about SUPERMAN aka Clark Kent.
Grow up and I don't know...actually use your brain.
Thats all theorists are now are a bunch of panderers who share one brain. You never see them have a difference of opinion, all you see them do is bash Lois cause theres nothing about Chloe that is remotely Lois like. Hell, you might as well compare her to all the characters on the show. Pete who she stole the best friend/sidekick from, Jonathan who she stole the Kryptonian advice/helps Clark with powers shtick from, Martha cause lets face it Chloe acts like shes his damn mother alot of the time and shes flip flopping this season as much as Martha did in season 6, Lana with the whole bad life/villain connection crap, Oracle cause ooh look shiny Watchtower status. It just proves shes the Mary Sue who they shoehorn into other characters' roles when needed. Wow what an awesome character she is, she needs other characters traits and characteristics to do anything.
You should really check your facts before going and writing an article that lists a character whose on a show you don't even watch. How brilliant of you! Way to be informed.
And Lois Lane is no supporting character. That honour goes to Chloe Sullivan aka Ms. Hack-all.
So much word for Lois on Smallville. What a waste of screentime!
Re Gossip Girl, I really dislike Serena. She's whiny and annoying. Rufus? Eh, he's okay.
*sarcasm*
Suprising a anti-Lois comment on a BLOG from TWOP. All it's missing is bashing the actress Erica Durance because she is to happy and delusional theories about Chloe somehow morhping into her cousin and looking perfectly sane in the process.
Keep living in denail YMMV
Lois Lane bashing at TWoP site? How unoriginal. Guess you have to keep feeding the crows when no one else does.
Lois Lane bashing at TWoP site? How unoriginal. Guess you have to keep feeding the crows when no one else does.
How embarassing must it be to be caught in your own web of lies? One minute you're claiming you don't watch Smallville and don't know who Chloe is, the next you're clamoring for Lois' head on a pike. hah. I think you have it the other way round. The only reason Chloe was even created was because the producers weren't allowed to use Lois, but once they got the REAL Lois on the show, Chloe became their little play-doh to be melded into whatever the plot required her to be. So Lois didn't "steal" anyone's "journalistic thunder" since it was all hers to begin with (it has been for 70 years), Chloe was just being a good little benchwarmer for her. Again, if you had actually SEEN the show, you'd know that Chloe's the one who is nauseatingly chewing up screentime while Lois is only in about half of the season. The sad thing is I agree with the rest of your list, but unfortunately, I can't tell if it's your own opinion, or an attempt to kiss up to the general TWOP populace.
One other thing at least the author admits what is the basis of the problem of the Lois character for the TWOP crowd, a huge jealousy complex that I would expect out of a 13 year old girl in middle school.
Every Lois complaint I see from the TWOP crowd always seems to somehow put Chloe's name in the sentence.
So, on your last list, you said you didn't know who Chloe was as you didn’t watch Smallville, but on this one you take a potshot at Lois Lane for "stealing Chloe's rightful journalistic and screentime thunder?" Lois Lane, the character who has been an iconic reporter for 70+ years, the character who has been in only 12 episodes this year to Chloe's 22, is stealing Smallville’s very own Mary Sue's journalistic flair and screentime? Because that makes total sense! And you know this because you don't watch the show! That makes your hatred of Lois totally valid and not at all an attempt at gaining brownie points with the nutjobs who post on the TWoP Smallville message boards!
Right. Like I'm ever going to take anything you say seriously again.
Sorry to break it to you honey, but the majority of folks who like Smallville are not Chloe-worshipping sociopaths. Your lovely little bit of pandering to that crowd of crazies is going to cost you respect from anyone who watches the show and isn't afflicted with a raging case of psychosis. I'd feel bad for you, but you brought it on yourself. Maybe next time you could watch the show in question and form your own opinions instead of throw out arbitrary denouncements of iconic characters based on the whining of a bunch of vitriolic, childish theorists.
Lois Lane's death can't come soon enough for me. I'm tired of the fake out games they play with her and Chloe. Give Chloe her life back.
Lois Lane's death can't come soon enough for me. I'm tired of the fake out games they play with her and Chloe. Give Chloe her life back.
I have one question... since when does Chloe deserve screentime?
She doesn't exist outside Smallville. She's a nobody for the people that don't see the show.
About the journalistic time, tell me something... if Chloe's dream really was to become a journalist, WHY THE HELL didn't she came back to the DP after Lex left?
If the DP was the problem, why the hell didn't she tried to find another paper?
Don't blame Lois for that, because it was all Chloe.
Without a doubt the most useless sidekick on TV has to be Juliet from LOST. She's pretty much there to be annoying right? As much as i love her for being there so there will be no Sawyer/Kate when Kate should be with Jack. I still cannot stand her either as an actress or a character, why kill off Charlie and reduce Claire's screen time and keep her? I remain baffled...
Without a doubt the most useless sidekick on TV has to be Juliet from LOST. She's pretty much there to be annoying right? As much as i love her for being there so there will be no Sawyer/Kate when Kate should be with Jack. I still cannot stand her either as an actress or a character, why kill off Charlie and reduce Claire's screen time and keep her? I remain baffled...
You TWOP bashers need a time out (or a life).
Yeesh. Some people don't like Lois. Doesn't make them delusional or a Chlois believer.
Glad to see Lois Lame is on this list --- she dropped the IQ on Smallville by about 20 points (and that's WITH Clark in the mix).
That's funny...I believe most, if not all, of the people coming to Lois's defense are calling the author out for pandering to the Chloisers, as her previous post confirms she doesn't even watch the show. No one is saying she's not allowed to not like Lois...we're all just a little appalled that she would make that sort of judgment without any personal exposure to the show. it smacks of sucking up to Chloisers.
And us commenting on the same blog as you, with a different opinion, means we have no lives? Uh, no, it just means we disagree with you. Unless you have no life as well?
Maybe people don't about wonder this like I do, but why does Smallville HAVE to follow the mythos? And I'm not a mindless follower of the legion of Lois-haters, I just genuinely think they miscast the role or wrote the character really wrong. I don't know if it's the actress or the writing, but like someone said, Lois is so arrogant and kinda really bitchy. I don't buy her for a second as an ace journalist.
Ms. Monez,
For you to be able to critally judge charecters on a show, you must actually watch said show. As you admittedly know nothing about Smallville other than the veiws you see on this site, allow me to suggest renting seasons 4-7 of Smallville so that you may make up your own mind about Lois Lane. You may be surprised by what you might find.
Sincerly,
A Lois fan
Oh Lois Lame. Good one. *eye roll*
Seriously, how about you come up with some valid arguments for hating her instead of spending your time coming up with ridiculously, childish nicknames for her.
Nois, Hois, Lois Lame...
GROW.UP.
In reguards to some people not liking Lois. Sorry to anybody who doesn't like Lois but is not a Chloiser, the delusional comment was directed at them.
Now if somebody can come up with a reason for disliking Lois without
1. bashing the actress playing her for some stupid reason
2. somehow finding a way to bring up Chloe's name when they bring up why they dislike Lois
3. are a Chloiser
This site is known to be a haven for the Chloe fantatics and just felt I would vent. It's obvious as others pointed out that the author of the article has no idea what she is talking about and just pandering to the TWOP crowd who watch Chloeville with her comment.
New Ruby sucks so much. I never understood the hate for Ruby last season, but this season I do.
Lois needs to die. The most annoying character on that show. And that's saying something considering we're talking about the show that worshiped Lana Lang.
Because the source material is fantastic. There is so much to the mythos that many Smallville fans have never expirienced. And in the end DC and Warner Bros. decide what happens in Smallville. They apparently like the source material, so it is at least going to generally follow it.
Oh, thank you for including Lois. I like to know that I don't suffer alone. She has definitely taken on the Lana Lang mantle, getting praised by everyone, having things fall into her lap, and I just sit there thinking... "This imbecile? Really?" Ugh!
I left Heroes early this season when it became obvious that nobody had a character driven reason for doing and being anything. I could connect to no one and Mohinder, the man narrating most of it, least of all. It just became hard to follow and way too hard to get behind anyone. What a shame for a show with such potential.
If you pick from reality shows, I would definitely add Padma Lahkshmi to this list.
Wow, how surprising that you would choose Lois from Smallville? Seriously, get over it.
Erica Durance is an amazing actress who is beloved by Smallville's showrunners, the cast, and audience members around the world.
Comic book writers have called her one of the best Lois Lanes and Margot Kidder and Noel Neill (both former Lois Lanes) have raved about her character and her performance.
Erica Durance and her Lois Lane are awesome. It's too bad you can't see it.
As I recall when Chloe originally got a collumn it was because she made a deal with Lionel to spy on Clark. And when she got back into the DP it was because of the sorority vamps that Clark and lana incountered. Not really much better than the fare Lois wrote for the Inquisitor. Clark seemed to do most of the grunt work for Chloe as well when she could be distracted from her duties the best sidekick ever and actually write a once in blue moon article.
Lois worked at the Inquisitor building her expirience before going to the DP. And if you bring up the Grant thing, I will only rebutt that with the fact that she is STILL working at the DP, even after Grant's death and Lex's take over. Lex saw Lois as a threat and therefore wanted to keep her around to make sure she could not make trouble for him. Chloe.... not so much.
I've never watched Smallville. Cause it looks retarded. BUT. Now I know that was the smart choice because OMFG how insane are the fans? Look how worked up they're getting over fake people. Crazy.
Thank you, thank you, a thousand time thank you for saying Lois needs to die. It is painfully cleare the Smallville writers just changed their "Lana is great" macros to "Lois is great" and went on their merry way this year. Lois magically becoming the best reporter ever offscreen, combined with ED's questionable "acting" skills and Clark rather massive IQ drop has been pretty painful to watch. The difference in episode quality between episodes with Lois, and episodes without her, is remarkable.
As for the other choices - I too am bored of the Thireen / Foreteen show. Killing CTB and keeping her was a major mistake.
Mohinder really is too dumb to live. Don't get me wrong, Skylar should have died two years ago, but Mohinder makes Peter Griffin look like a damn genius.
New Ruby is much worse than Old Ruby, who I had started to warm up to by the end of last year. I really wish the actress who played Meg could just come back - she was better than either of the former Rubys.
Die Lois die!
i agree wih you lois needs to die i loved in the early season but now she is so annoy i can't stand her i am not a mythos girl so i don't care about it and i have been watching this show since the begining
Mohinder used to be a rootworthy character, not anymore.
Smallville's Lois Lane? ED's version is an insult to the name. No education, sleeps with the boss, no ethics, & is the town bicycle of Superheroes. A skanky bimbo, & totally not worthy of Clark Kent, Superman or the name.
Um... can I add VANNA WHITE? Decades of uselessness.
And I agree about Samantha on DWTS.
Really? You had to take it there? I am not even sure what to say to that it's so... well, rediculous. But now I can see why some people think we Smallville fans are all a little crazy when it comes to our fandoms.
Reasons not to like Lois that have nothing to do with Chloe.
bad acting, bad writing, bad characterization. I gave up on SV this season so maybe they're doing a terrific job with her now, but the fact that Lois Lane is iconic makes it worse.
Because there is an actual ideal out there that unfortunately the show has not come close to meeting.
And no, I'm not a Chloiser, or a Chlarker for that matter.
COULD NOT AGREE MORE about Samantha Harris. Why is she still a thing? Surely the filler-mongers at DWTS could come up with some way to distract the audience while the judges prepare their scores or whatever. Or at least: Lachey!
Dude, am LOVING the list, especially the super-lame Lois Lane. Her time has been up for ages and watching her retread everything Chloe did (and Chloe did it better) is such a bore. Just because she's "OMG, ICONIC" means squat when the actress is terrible and the character is a waste of space while Chloe's screentime is lessened because of wacky, ICONIC hijinks that everyone in the audience and the other characters in the cast outgrew from like season 2.
So, yeah, Dr. Hunt should be added to the "OK, you can stay" list for GA. It's possible I'm blinded by the sheer force of my McKidd love, but Hunt seems to have, you know, an actually interesting plotline, and, as much as I hate to say it, a fairly relevant one at that.
Disliking Lois really has nothing to do with Chloe - at least for me. Why is it that every time someone comes with valid reason for why they don't like a character (or actor/actress) they get hit over the head with words like "you're jus jealus' or 'delusional'? I don't like Lois Lane for the simple reason that the writers' majorly screwed up: Lois Lane is supposed to be the icon of female journalism, and as a journalist myself it offends me that no education, and no hard work apparently means the best of the best. I worked bloody hard for my job - and no, it didn't involve sleeping with my boss either.
I agree with picking Lois Lane. She's single-handedly ruining Smallville and Superman for me.
NuRuby didn't annoy me that much at first until the fans started to rally against her and I guess I was influenced a little but she's really getting on my nerves with all the strange demon sex thing going on. Can't she just be platonic and badass like KC's oldRuby?
When Entertainment Weekly makes lists, even if the article is written by one person, the lists come from contributions of the entire editorial staff. The "WE" in the title implied to me that this article is likewise written as a composite of the editorial opinions of the TWoP staff.
Thank you for including Lois in your list. She's a complete waste of space and is single-handedly ruining the show for me. Oh, and before I get labelled a "delusional Chloiser", my hatred for Lois has nothing to do with Chloe whatsoever.
"Disliking Lois really has nothing to do with Chloe"
Maybe for you it doesn't but why does the article say Lois is stealing time from Chloe? Chloe shouldn't have even been mentioned for what was wrong with the character if somebody has an issue with her, else it comes accross basically as shipper/character preference and crying that the other character has something you want.
If you look at screentime for both girls Chloe has got way more screentime then Lois has on the show and this season, so what exactly is the problem in reguards to "Lois taking her time".
Hear, hear, Massena! This was a joint effort of many educated minds that say that, whether its the actress or the writing, SVLois sucks! And a lot. Next time the show should try for organic storytelling rather than moving the character around like a chess piece to an iconic place and hoping no one calls them out on how shoddily it was done.
There's still hope to fix it, SV people! Just admit you screwed up, just like the Heroes PTB. Except, unlike them, don't screw it up worse by making the characters unrecognizable and unrelateable by... Oh, wait...
Chloe MarySuellivan has ruined Smallville!
Just to clear things up, I think all Chloisers are delusional if they think Chlois is actually going to happen after the producers many times came out and said it's not going to happen and wrote and episode saying it won't happen. It has nothing to do with your opinion on Lois(although the negativity on Lois character sort of goes hand and hand with people who believe in the theory).
There are many Chloe fans out there(but mostly not on this board) who seem to be reasonable that can give reasons why they don't care for the character without it sounding like jealousy, and I can accept that. the second though I see terms like Nois, EDlois, SVLois though, I see people just living in denial.
Mindy! I kept scrolling down your list and saying, "Yes, yes, YES!" The top people who need to go are definitely:
3) Samantha Harris: Seriously, all you need to do is read a teleprompter. Sometimes I feel like one of us has a cognitive deficiency when she talks, because I believe she is speaking English but it makes no sense. Itsli keshehas noidea how thes oundsare sup posedtob reak toform wordsan dsenten ces.
2) Rebecca: I used to like Justin, and now he is tainted by association. I would not miss it if all the Harpers left the show.
1) Nois. I find Botox Betty unpleasant to look at, listen to and think about.
Scotty was the reason I stopped watching Brothers & Sisters. I hate that character and the way the actor plays him so much.
I agree wholeheartedly on the "who can stay" list for Grey's Anatomy, though.
I agree about Lois. I don't care that she's SUPPOSED to be a fantastic reporter, because that was not built in Smallville. The show already had a fantastic reporter who had been doing it since an early age. In walks Lois, and in no time at all she's worshiped and has a picture with the Dali Lama. It's really not all that believable, unless we want to assume she got where she did because of things NOT related to her journalism skills. Which just makes it more terrible.
goody!!! Lois and the USUAL Erica Durance's bashing next to it!!
I am sooo proud to be a Smallville fan..
*remembers why I don¡t come here*
Ohh Chloe fans and then you ask WHY ypu are not listened nor taken seriously.
Bunch of 2 year old bashing and using names. Grow Up already.
You officially beat the Clana on the monst INMATURE fandom out there.
Now THAT's why you must only stick to you TWOP forum. Out there you are only a bunch of crazy people. Stay on ypur ayslum. Even on Ksite people laugh at you.
Well what can I said it must feel good that 1 in like 4,514,555 sites you are heard and treated like your actitud its right on.
Even authors than don't watch they show LIE to workship you.
Its a good place to be a Chloe fan. And just in case you live on 2003. Chloe is not longer a reporter. She is WATCHTOWER and harboring monster.
Stop bashing a fictional character and an actress just because you are frustrate dn how CRAPPY Chloe is bacoming
Patehtic. Try to take thatattitude outsie the TWOP and see how pople kick your butt in debate and in laughing at you
Thanks for telling it like it is with Lois. I just don't see the point of giving her Chloe's entire journalistic storyline. I'm not interested in watching this supporting character do what Chloe's already done and not even do it as well as Chloe did in high school.
sometimes I wonder what show are you wtahcing?
No wait....you are NOT watching....my bad ooopssssss
I dare to think you people still think Smallville is on the WB.
That's how outdated you are, the only explanation possible cause you are describing ashow that apparently exist only on your minds
Umm, journalism in the mythos is Lois' bread and butter to begin with. Chloe didn't lose her job at the DP, she lost it because TPTB wanted to put Clark there with Lois.
She also apparently does a good enough at the DP to keep her job, and have the respect of her co-workers.
Vanessa and Lois are too good for this blog.
Does Ted on HIMYM count? I know he's the title character, but he's the least interesting person on the show!
Right, Lois is a journalist, but her being a reporter in mythos shouldn't be like being being a princess...you're not just born into it. So, we know that she's supposed to be a reporter, and a good one. It's not to much to ask that the writers SHOW her working to get there. Clark Kent is Superman, but the most interesting part of the early seasons was watching him NOT be Superman, and how he got from where we met him to where we know he is going.
It does bear saying that the actress who plays Lois is not compelling (to me), and combined with the bad writing leaves me with little to care about. I don't owe these characters any loyalty just because of their Mythos...they have to earn it through great storytelling. They've failed.
This is not the first time Smallville's Lois has made a list like this, (Worst character, characters we're sick of, characters who need to die). Perhaps that means her fans are the delusional ones, when more than one industry medium sees something wrong with her character. Nevertheless, her fans come out in droves with several different names to defend her, trying to make it look like the majority likes her and this site is a specialized sect of one opinion. Little known fact-- only 108 people were willing to put their money where their mouth was and contribute to Lois Lane's "Wild Cherry" support campaign. (Just go to the Lois messageboard called Divine Intervention if you don't believe me.) The character's a joke and so are her few dozen fans.
Wholeheartedly agree with this list, ESPECIALLY Lois. She may have the iconic name, but the similarity ends there.
I do believe I detect a telling pattern of grammatical errors in the hate-spam of the Lois fans. It's obvious what's going on here and I don't even watch the show.
ITA on Samantha. Awkward much?
Ugh, THANK YOU for preaching the truth about the awful Lois Lane. She's crude, crass, and obnoxious--and those are her good qualities. SV's Lois Lane slept her way into the DP, is the most unethical "journalist" in the history of ever. And ED, I'm sure she's a nice person, but she's not a very good actress.
Dead weight is right. Allison Mack is amazing and her Chloe has given this show its heart, through all of the crappy storylines and lowest moments. Those who've been watching from the beginning and didn't simply jump on the bandwagon to stroke their comics obsession want to see the show at its best, and Lois is what drags it down to its worst.
Ruby's a great choice for this list, although I never really got used to KC as the original.
Yes re: Kim Bauer.
As for the Chloe vs. Lois debate--my little brother tells me that generally, there are two types of fans. The smart ones and the not-so-smart ones. I thought it to be a bit of an unfair statement, but judging from the looks of these comments, I think maybe he was right. Although it does seem that most of the rabid pro-Lois posts are written by the same person, which is sort of amusing and sad at the same time.
This is insane! I don't even watch Smallville and I'm freaked out by it's fandom! Such intense hatred for fictional characters.
Loving the "TWOPers SUCK" posts. Apparently the Head Geek got wind of the article and spread the word to round up the troops for some damage-control.
Someone's Superman underoos are a little too tight.
If you are going to mock an entire group of fans and say they are “are not listened nor taken seriously”, try using spell check first. It helps people to take you seriously.
If Chloe had never been on Smallville, Lois would still suck. ED is at best a mediocre actress, who does best with broad comedy and romance scenes. Exposition and drama? Not so much. Throw in ED’s suddenly immobile face, the usual poor writing, an increase in screen time and Lois’s growth as a reporter happening entirely off-screen, and you have a disaster.
The EPs admitted that the Clark / Lois relation was sibling-like for the past four years, making Lois’s sudden and unexplained lust for him truly disturbing. I guess wanting to bang your brother is iconic and epic.
Oh wow. Can anyone give valid reasons for not liking Lois without mentioning the fact that she had a relationship with her boss? My god. It seems you can't.
You say Lois got her job by sleeping with the boss...
How did Chloe get hers, hm? Oh that's right, Lionel got it for her after she acted all shady...but that really means nothing to you, does it?
Or how about the fact that Lois actually writes stories but Chloe spent ALL her time at the DP, researching things for Clark....that doesn't seem like someone who really wants to be a journalist, deserves to be working at a prestigious newspaper like the Daily Planet.
Take off your blinders kids, wake up and smell reality. Stop looking through rose-coloured Chloe glasses.
How about we just shut down Private Practice altogether and ship Addison (and Naomi's ex-husband - I forget his name, but he's cool) over to Grey's?
Lois was the reason I stopped watching Smallville.
Lana didn't even manage that. Congrats, Lois.
And what exactly has Chloe and Clark's relationship been?
In my opinion Chloe's been like a mother to Clark. So wanting to bang your son? Ew.
Also, stop stating everything like it's a fact. It's opinion.
Just to clarify, Chloe got her job at the DP through Kahn. AFTER she lost the column that she had in high school, which she lost because she refused to give Lionel information about Clark. Chloe was also accepted into a very prestigious internship program at the Planet in the summer between freshman and soph year of high school based on her own merit. Did Chloe make mistakes? Sure. She owned up to them and was punished accordingly. Like a normal person does.
But that really has nothing to do with Lois, the "muffin-peddling college dropout" (tm Lex). She went from career to career until she ended up at the Inquisitor rag, then flashed some boob and a fuzzy picture of a spaceship and BAM! She was working at the DP. How can one ignore the fact that she slept with her boss?! A Luthor clone! Goodness.
This is iconic? This is a role model?
I keep seeing comments that dare anti-Lois viewers to explain why she isn't liked. Are those reasons not enough?
How dare you insult the actions fans took to show their appreciation of Erica Durance/Lois Lane? That's unbelievable, how low you've just sunk.
I haven't seen any efforts by people on TWoP to show their appreciation of Allison, so what gives you the right to diss what fans have worked incredibly hard on to show their love for an actress? What's wrong with you?
A bunch of people contributed to the OWC campaign, maybe not in monetary contributions, which is understandable considering the economy right now, but in other ways like sending emails, postcards, contributing to the video for Tom and Erica, making art, spreading the word about the project.
I really can't believe you've just sunk that low.
Also, it's not like only 108 people like Lois Lane/Erica Durance. The majority of Smallville fans aren't online message forums people, and if you took the time to actually look at the petition we had set up for people to sign if they wanted to see more of Lois Lane, you'd know that we obtained more than 2,600 signatures.
Shame on you, really. To make fun of fans efforts to show appreciation. Shame on you.
Once again you just couldn't resist bringing up Lois' appearance, which in and of itself, is a bash against the actress Erica.
Heehee! Are you kidding?
"Shame on you, really. To make fun of fans efforts to show appreciation. Shame on you."
Oh, this is just too delicious! I see very little evidence of the bashful, humble Lois fans having skipped over to say, "I like Lois myself." I see lots of nasty, "inmature" comments that make little contextual and/or grammatical sense.
There's a whole world outside of your parents' basement, you know. Just take off the Darth Vader helmet and you can see it for yourself!
Please taking your spam elsewhere. Thank you.
Making fun of me, a Lois fan, when you're denouncing us making fun of Chlois fans in the first place? That doesn't make much sense.
Second of all, I'm saying it was immature to make fun of a campaign done by fans, when people worked really hard for months on it. There's absolutely nothing wrong with me stating my opinion on that. I do think it's wrong to make fun of fans hard-working efforts. Make fun of us all you want, fine. But don't trash something we did that we're all really proud of.
And there's nothing wrong with the blogger here stating that Lois is not a successful character. Apparently that's not acceptable and the crazies came out to prove it.
If you can't take it, don't dish ot.
"Second of all, I'm saying it was immature to make fun of a campaign done by fans, when people worked really hard for months on it."
I don't think the OP is "making fun" of it. The point is simply that as much as EDLois fans like to imply that they represent the "majority" of the Smallville fandom, their big campaign (which you indicate people "worked really hard for months" on) only had 108 contributors. This after they sent out spamming emails and PMs to strangers (including Chlois and Chlark fans, inexplicably) begging for more support. That's the only point being made here-- that EDLois fans do not represent the Smallville fandom as a whole. They're only one segment of fandom, not necessarily any larger than Chlark fans or Chlois fans or general non-shipping fans.
And re the post: Ugh, I totally agree about New Ruby. I never thought I'd say this, but bring Old Ruby back!
Simon really needs to leave and make a spin-off entited "Simon Snarks on People." It doesn't have to be limited to just people who think they have talent.
Kim and Mohinder need to just go away... though if Mo can take Sylar with him, that'd be a bonus... and really? How about you just take everyone except Angela and HRG with you? Heck the only reason I watch "Heroes" at all is because it's on after "Chuck."
As for NewRuby... I find it hard to judge because standards have been so numbed by sidekick of the previous hour you named that I think they could have used a cardboard cutout and had Jenson just say the lines in a funny voice and I'd still find it stellar (actually that would probably be the funniest thing I've ever seen so I say "GO FOR IT KRIPKE!").
Finally, as one of those crazy obsessive sociopathic Chloe fans who is clearly doing nothing but calling my opponents names, I do have to ask that you not judge the "Lois" fans too harshly. Anger is just one of the stages of grief and it seems their girl, Lois, stands a very good chance of going the way of the dodo bird in the season finale as one of the much touted "deaths that stick" because;
1) Erica's contract is up (unlike everyone else on the show) and all the shows are having to cut their budgets right now.
2) The best ratings of the season have from episodes where Erica is noticably absent.
3) Episodes Erica does appear in skew older and male on a network marketed to younger women.
4) A very small number of her fans hurl sock puppets at every unmoderated site on the internet with comments just like those above and make the entire SV fandom look nuts.
So go easy on them. Their girl is likely about to be out on the street with nothing but a career of bad Lifetime and Sci-Fi channel B-movies ahead of her and that's a HORRIBLE fate for them to have to come to terms with.
Oh wow the Chloe fans are bashing Erica and calling out Lois fans. Nothing new right. But ofcourse what else can they do when Chloe who is a wimp and is a married woman who has an affair that they to undermine the other fan base.
So why do the strangers (Chloisers and Chlarkers) have a sign-on at the Lois and Clark site?.
I like Thirteen on House. I don't understand why the writers/producers decided to sideline Chase and Cameron for so long, but I don't blame the new characters who made it through the ridiculous competitions (those eps I did NOT enjoy!)
House showed how new characters could be developed and used--I wish Grey's Anatomy would do a better job of this!
I have to say I agree with New Ruby. I got to like Old Ruby and this new Ruby is just inexcusably boring and terrible and has all the chemistry with Sam as a sock.
As for the Lois debate. Here's why I don't like her---she's had everything handed to her on a silver platter, she never faces the consequences of her actions, she knows NOTHING about Clark's secret (even Tess does) so everything important is done around her, episodes devoted to her are T&A glorifications like Stiletto which drain from main plot points, and Clois this season is a rehash of seven seasons of Clana's secreths and lieths.
Frankly, ED is just not a good actress. She's not the worst actress I have ever seen (though note I've watched a lot of direct to DVD horror films so my standards are broad), but she's not terribly talented. At best she can be adequate as in Siren or Hex. At worst, we have over the top pining for a season and stalker level suit fondling in Bride.
It just doesn't work and it drains away from the Injustice League, Tess versus Clark, Doomsday and other plots when the EPs try to think of a way to shoe-horn her into the next episode.
In Requiem Lana became a superhero. Hmm, now we have Lois becoming a fake one. They've merely transferred the pwetty pink pwincess crown to another character and an actress less talented than KK (who does a mean Lady Luthor).
Frankly, I just want the actress off the show and the character written off. It would make SV marginally more watchable, marginally.
//This is not the first time Smallville's Lois has made a list like this, (Worst character, characters we're sick of, characters who need to die).//
Lois has also made multiple positive lists. TV Squad listed her as one of five reasons to watch Smallville this year -- "Erica Durance's Lois Lane has to be one of the best versions of the character to hit any screen, big or small." (this coming from someone who actually watches the show); E! Online recently placed her relationship with Clark on a list of favourite TV couples; BuddyTV also ran an editorial from a staff writer late last year outlining why she is such a great character. That's a small and recent selection of the positive press Lois has been getting since she debuted on the show five years ago.
First, I want to say that I completely agree with your opinion of the new actress who plays Ruby on Supernatural. I didn't mind Katie Cassidy last season, and I was intrigued with what was up with Ruby last season. This season, she just bores me.
I'm also a Smallville watcher, but I don't understand all the arguments back and forth. But, in the spirit of speaking an opinion (and it is an opinion), here's mine:
I'm not a fan of Lois, but I'm tired of all the Lois bashing that I see around here. This season, I haven't liked how suddenly Lois is a brilliant reporter, well-respected, getting all of these assignments when she should, at best, be an intern or a cub reporter. But, we're being asked to believe that with no education or any desire to be a journalist before season 6, she's suddenly a brilliant reporter?
And, yes, I have the same problem with Clark suddenly being a great reporter.
In all honesty, I'm more of a Chloe fan. Until this season. I do think Allison Mack is a better actress than Erica Durance (just my opinion), but this season, I haven't liked Chloe's character very much. In "Turbulence," I sided with Jimmy in the breakup, much to the dismay of some people I know. I do like Chloe's move to be Watchtower.
But, Lois isn't taking Chloe's life. Chloe figured that out in "Hex." Her life is away from journalism and the Daily Planet.
Again, just my opinion.
That's exactly what I meant, Meg. Lois is not a popular character, she just has a few diehard, loud fans.
I like Kim Bauer. I think she brings out a vulnerability to Jack that no one else does. However, I fully recognize that I am in the minority and that she is almost wholly disliked by other viewers. I do not feel the need to call the site and bloggers delusional, psycho, sociopaths, etc, because they have a difference of opinion, a concept Lois' few dozen fans have not grasped.
Yeah Chloe is a a bigger bimbo who spoiled Jimmy's life because she can't keep her hands off of Davis.
1. Who was ready to sell out Clark to Lionel Luthor because Clark loved Lana
2. Was the reason why Lex got the second key to control the Traveller.
3. Advocated killing Lex in 2 instances and knew that Clark Kent would not. So she has taken killing people on her own
4. Didn't give a shit about journalism when she was at the DP because she was busy sidekicking for Oliver and Clark. And the funny thing was she and her computer hacking skills had to be shown in all episodes that she would be able to find out what the Krpytonian symbols undermining Lionel, the Jor-El oracle couldn't figure out nor Clark, the Kryptonian. But all of sudden in HEX she wants to go back to journalism because Clark doesn't spend much time with her.
5.She is the reason Davis Bloome knows about Clark Kent now.
Its funny that Chloe is being written as the downfall of Clark.
Well I've gotta agree, Chloe fans (all 10 of you) have a right to hate Lois for stealing Chloe's "thunder"!!
If Lois wasn't at the Planet (along with hundreds of other talented reporters hired by DP who all are equally guilty of stealing Chloe's thunder, thank God we don't see them on this show) Chloe would be working there right now, writing so many pet obituaries, hacking so many more networks, using DP's resources for so many other things than journalism. Duh! Lois, you stole that opportunity from Chloe!
Do Lois's fans really think workers' revolts, serial killers and Red Blue Blur is serious journalism? Really? Just because everyone adores Lois at the Planet, Clark makes puppy dog eyes at her and she has her picture taken with Dalai Lama doesn't mean she's doing great!
But don't you worry, I am sure when Chloe gets tired of being Barbara Gordon wannabe.. err.. I mean Watchtower, of having Doomsday as her boyfriend, of playing with her husband's emotions and 'tasering' him to protect Doomsday, and of going behind her "best friend's" back again and again, she might want to come back to Daily Planet and write more pet obituaries and off course write about vampires and "redeem" the Planet!
Yes, we can...but only if they kill off Lexie, George, Izzie, the Chief, Arizona, and the rest of the useless interns first. And they need to be DEAD dead, not "Denny Duquette" dead.
//But, we're being asked to believe that with no education or any desire to be a journalist before season 6, she's suddenly a brilliant reporter?//
Really you were expected to believe that in the S4 episode "Facade", when an article she wrote for the Torch garnered her fanmail.
You know, Chloe never completed college either.
Little known fact. Seems people only remember Lois not having a college degree...
Totally agree with the Rufus thing on GOSSIP GIRL. He just randomly shows up and randomly decides to be a parent...randomly. My favorite was when he came home really late from something, to an empty house, didn't know where his kids where but managed to get mad at Jenny about something...I don't remember. either way, he's made of lame.
While I don't "love" vanessa or Jenny, I get their purpose in the show. I may not like them as people but they serve to move things forward or mess things up in proper GG fashion, so for that I like them alright. I feel the same way about how Dan is a total idiot, but somehow necessary. Whatever.
In regards to the person that mentioned Padma on Top Chef, I say get rid of the new judge guy and have Gail on full time.
Also Locke and Jack on lost need to just go and die. I'm on the third season playing catch up, but I roll my eyes really hard anytime they are on screen.
And while I'm at it and to break up the smallville talk, can we kill off Edward? In Twilight? just...for fun?
OH! and I don't watch Smallville, at all...but based soley on the promos and the few episodes I watched from the first season, Chloe bugs me. Is she still pinning for Clark? Wait...I don't care at all. scratch that.
Yep, Chloe still pines for Clark.
What has it been now...8 seasons? Long time.
But, let's hate Lois for liking him for 1 season...holy crap, does the girl EVER stop pining after Clark? Sheesh. It's already been...10 episodes.
Smallville's Lois Lane as portrayed by Erica Durance has been poorly written...not the first victim of bad writing on the show (see Lana Lang). Lois showed poor judgement in sleeping with her boss, and has been shown to be unethical in her work practices, even going as far as offering a policeman a bribe in the episode 'Plastique.' She also comes across as rude, brash and unlikeable.
In addition, I just don't think ED is that good an actress - just my opinion, which I'm entitled to.
'House' hasn't been the same since they spilt the original team of House, Foreman, Chase & Cameron. I'm hoping for a return to the original format myself. But Thirteen doesn't bother me personally.
And Heroes...my love for that series died at the beginning of Season 2. Sylar went from badass villain to bland, everybody's characters got gutted & regressed as they started to stall and over-convolute the story, and suddenly there were insipid love triangles all over the place. I ditched it pronto.
I miss blond Ruby. I absolutely loved her. I hate brunette Ruby; she bores me.
Smallville's Lois Lane as portrayed by Erica Durance has been poorly written...not the first victim of bad writing on the show (see Lana Lang). Lois showed poor judgement in sleeping with her boss, and has been shown to be unethical in her work practices, even going as far as offering a policeman a bribe in the episode 'Plastique.' She also comes across as rude, brash and unlikeable.
In addition, I just don't think ED is that good an actress - just my opinion, which I'm entitled to.
'House' hasn't been the same since they spilt the original team of House, Foreman, Chase & Cameron. I'm hoping for a return to the original format myself. But Thirteen doesn't bother me personally.
And Heroes...my love for that series died at the beginning of Season 2. Sylar went from badass villain to bland, everybody's characters got gutted & regressed as they started to stall and over-convolute the story, and suddenly there were insipid love triangles all over the place. I ditched it pronto.
Heroes- I used to love Mohinder-- he was the smart outside observer, but I stopped watching when they inexplicably gave him super-powers and made him crazy. He can stay if he goes back to normal. Sylar, on the other hand, drives me crazzzy. Please just kill him.
House- I can't get into the new kids. I just can't, and 13 is the worst of all. I don't see why I'm supposed to care about beautiful people making bad decisions. (See Marissa from the OC). Snore.
Gossip Girl- I liked Rufus before he started dating Lily, who is SO boring. I want Lily to die too. Then Rufus can be the cool dad to Dan, Jenny, Serena, and Chuck!
Smallville- Lois doesn't bug me, but I wouldn't be sad if she died or disappeared, since she's really not that involved in the main storyline. And no, Chloe doesn't pine for Clark- she'd LAY DOWN AND DIE for him. But that's okay with me cos I want Clark and Chloe to have a million babies together.
24- I don't mind Kim cos she's only been in a few episodes these past few years. Olivia, the President's daughter, however, I want her to disappear. She's an obnoxious snake. Get ded, pleez.
I agree with just about everyone on the list but HUGE WORD to Lois. I don't think there's another character on TV that annoys me more than she does. I don't know if it's the poor acting, the fact that she's just given things without having to work for them (or...ok I guess banging her boss *is* sort of work) or her entitled attitude but I've always hated her on the show. If there's a TV god she'll get killed off at the end of the season.
Mohinder is also so annoying. He's been pretty pointless since s1 but this season his whole 'fly' routine was insane.
ITA about the whole cast of Grey's Anatomy. The reason I stopped watching that show was because I realized I hated *everyone*.
Why couldn't 13 go work for Obama instead of Kumar?
Glad to see EDLois on this list, she is no way the "iconic" version of Lois Lane. Her character is written poorly, and displays questionable morals at best.
Poor Mohinder, he's hot, but as you said...boring.
"And there's nothing wrong with the blogger here stating that Lois is not a successful character. Apparently that's not acceptable and the crazies came out to prove it."
Can't speak for everybody but I am sick of the Chloe/Chlois fanatics that liter all online comment sections with there anti-Lois crap(that sounds alot like what this blog suggested).
The Lois fans are just coming to the radical Chloefan homebase(TWOP)to vent there frustrations and annoyance with the Chloe fans that do the same thing in many other place.
An interesting list of bad second bananas. I'd love to comment on many of these but the truth is that the only show on this list that I actually watch is Heroes.
Regarding 24 - I stopped watching about 2/3 of the way through season 4. Not because I stopped liking the show but because I moved and no longer had TV. But even before I stopped watching I found Kim frustrating. The fact that she is still a presence on the show does not encourage me to catch up any time soon.
Regarding Smallville - I stopped watching that one at the end of Season 6. Again not because I dislike the show, my personal life simply got busy. I am glad to hear Lana is gone. I always liked Chloe and considered her a better choice for Clark, but I understand why they are trying to give Lois the more dominant role. Honestly, the show probably should have ended by now. That's part of the problem with American TV. We beat everything till it's dead. The last show I can recall that had a planned start and end was Babylon 5.
And with Heroes - I actually enjoy Sylar this season. I think Zack Quinto has played the role quite well considering all the crap that's been thrown at him in this season's writing. For those of you who feel he should have died, a perfect time would have been in Volume 3 during his redemption arc. He could have been killed by one of the other Villains during the time he was partnered with HRG or by Arthur Petrelli at Pinehearst. It would have been good timing.
Overall, I think that the issue with Heroes is that they don't know how to develop a plot over these shorter arcs that they are using. They introduce ideas, back story, and characters only to abandon them after a few and sometimes only one episode. They need to make the upcoming Volume 5 span the whole of Season 4 so they can have proper writing and plot development again. And killing off some characters wouldn't hurt.
Wow, I could not agree more about Lois. The character does not work. They've written her terribly over the past couple of years, and they've removed her from every single story arc- except, of course, Lois pining for Clark and having him pine in return. I mean, if they want to show her as important, maybe she should *do* something important on a regular basis. As it is, she's just dead weight.
With Heroes, I agree completely about Mohinder. There are plenty of characters who need to go, but he's the worst. Ugh.
New Ruby is terrible. Old Ruby I loved (after I got used to her), but New Ruby lacks everything Old Ruby had, from attitude to chemistry with either brother.
I agree with Dee above who said House hasn't been the same since they changed the original format. While I don't mind 13, I'm just not as sold on the show in general as I used to be.
Okay, listen up. I sympathize witha almost everything on that list (particularly Lois). She's cute, and she can deliver a joke, but her reporting skills (even when demonstrated as Chloe walking around in Lois' skin) consist of her ability to cultivate bowing acquaintances with people (and poker nights) that makes them feel comfortable around her. She doesn't dig for stories, her intelligence isn't superb like it should be. Her writing is, at best pedestrian. Chloe discovered she didn't want Lois' life because Lois doesn't do most of the things she expects reporters to do--dig, for stories, write incisively, search like a bloodhound for truth. She doesn't do any of those things--and those are the characteristics that define Lois professionally. That's bad for someone we're supposed to take seriously as a multiple Pulitzer winner. It's as if they wrote Cat Grant and gave her Lois's name and resume. Chloe finding a different niche is good, but she's basically become a stand-in for a building. She doesn't have her own secret identity, she signs in as base. It'd be like being part of the space program and identifying yourself as "Houston" full-time or being a member of the old Superfriends and calling yourself "Hall of Justice."
Until the middle part of this season, I actually really liked 13, but her involvement with Foreman has seriously soured me on both characters.
Word on Grey's Anatomy and Mohinder.
But i really like Sylar, and maybe a litle bit Rufus lol, because i think Rufus and Lily are cute together. But yeah Rufus alone is kinda boring.
Also i agree with you on Lois Lane in Smallville. For me she doesn't represent the iconic Lois Lane, i'd rather watch Chloe's storylines.
I think her chemistry with Davis/Doomsday was fantastic this season and i can't wait for the end of the season. Now if she only could go back to journalism that would be great :)
I could not agree more on Lois. Let's take a step back into season 4 when I actually liked the introduction of Lois Lane minus the flirting over her dead cousins grave. However after her initial introduction she just started to get really annoying real fast. I dislike how everything she gets is because it's ICONIC. She has to work for nothing and it has become especially apparent this season. The DALAI LAMA oh fuck Smallville you expect me to believe that.
Heroes. I hate 50% of the people in there but Sylar I think just about edges out Mohinder. Now if Mohinder dies well I won't complain.
I cannot STAND Samantha Harris. Or the new Ruby. Did I mention that I cannot STAND Samantha Harris?
I don't see much issue with Mohinder, while not the greatest character the Cheerleader is the most annoying of the bunch, followed by the asian guy.
House: I don't understand how it is possible that Thirteen is still alive while Kutner is dead. What were they thinking. Foreman was my least favorite original duckling, putting him with Thirteen simpy makes me dislike him more. I couldn't stand CTB, but Thirteen has taken my dislike to a different level. She adds nothing to the show.
In each interview Allison says how hard she works with the writers to make Chloe a unique and invaluable character and DC was ready to add Chloe to the comics. They even had Allison sign off on how Chloe was portrayed in the comics but now DC had taken a step back and said that they are not going to add Chloe in the comics. Allison was robbed off all her hard work in creating a new character which could have lived for a long period of time and instead have limited the character just to the SV universe because some of her fans can't accept her as Chloe.
Erica atleast had 108 contributors to show appreciation for her work.
Amen on Lois from SV. Every casual viewer I know agrees there. It doesn't matter whether it's the acting or the writing that's to blame, the result is the same.
I wish I were surprised that the trolls hit this one so hard, but I suppose it's at least drawing hits.
The extremists in Clois fandom are turning me off Smallville altogether. I'm glad they're passionate about their ship, but do they have to run around drumming up the crazy every time someone disagrees with them?
I don't like Lois. Lots of people don't like Lois. They just don't post that on Kryptonsite often anymore because they'll get mauled by trolls. It's not pleasant and I have better things to do with my time. That doesn't mean everyone agrees with the trolls.
Don't get me wrong, about the only thing Smallville did to redeem itself with this anvil-fest of a season was Davis. I'm not fond of how they re-wrote Chloe, Jimmy's a non-entity, and I think Clark has looked like a giant jerk most of this year.
That, I think, is the critical difference between supporting a show, character, or actor, and taking a dip in the crazy pond.
You can like a character or actor and not like or agree with every single thing they do. Idealizing not only a character, but by extension the actor who portrays them, is just creepy.
I agree with the Grey's Anatomy list, NuRuby and 13.
But I disagree about Mohinder. Granted, despite his overwhelming hotness he's been pretty useless since S2 (his best storyline was being a mommy with Parkman to Molly). However, there are many more characters on Heroes that I would prefer to get the axe, first and foremost Claire. I found her very interesting in S1 and I've only heard good things about Hayden P. But since S2 Claire has been lame and whiny, always blaming HRG and ignoring the billion and one times he sacrificed whatever he had to for her. He SHOT himself for her! Show some gratitude, girl. Next on my Heroes hit list would be any character Ali Larter plays. She did a good job of being Jessica/Nikki in S1 (even though I was often bored by her storyline) but it is just ridiculous that she can't die. Even when she does she just becomes a new character!
I'm just so so so SO happy that you had the balls to leave Meredith and the EMO brain surgeon off the Grey's "save" list. I could stand to do with less Alex and Bailey but Meredith and Mc-Estrogen need to die...violently.
"The extremists in Clois fandom are turning me off Smallville altogether. I'm glad they're passionate about their ship, but do they have to run around drumming up the crazy every time someone disagrees with them?"
I think you can find "crazies" for all groups. TWOP is known to be a haven for "crazy" Chloe fans who seem to take out there frustrations on an actress that go beyond disliking a character on a tv show. I never seen so much venom by a group of people in my life and if you sign up on this board to disagree with them, the OP there bans you for heaven forbid, having an opinion different from the rest of the people. If you dislike the direction Chloe is going, blame the writers and producers instead of taking out frustrations on another character or even worse the actress playing that character.
If you find the Clois fans here “extreme” maybe you should go to other online blogs and rumor sites and see the amount of hostility Chloe fans in general start spewing without respecting fans of the other characters. I can’t speak for everybody but all my posts on this blog are just out of frustration for the fan base of Chloe that hang out on this site who seem to have no respect for other fans when they start posting there hateful crap other places. It’s great I have a place to put it without moderation that they can see.
Re. Heroes:
Who cares which character is alive or dead when you can't figure out what is going on? I gave up at the beginning of series 2 mainly because of all the time-traveling, backwards, forwards, backwards, forwards, was driving me nuts. Note to writers: Excessive time-traveling is not only confusing to the viewer - it's boring to the point of grabbing the remote. Recently, I caught an episode of "Heroes" and it reminded me of series 2 of "Prison Break" where the whole purpose of the story degenerates into a sort of sentimental nothingness. I mean, what is the theme of "Heroes"? Anybody know? Looks to me like a lot of guys running around after a lot of other guys for no good reason. And the most annoying character? It has always been Claire, the blonde brat. She is always pissed at everyone, no matter what they've done for her, and seems to have permanent cramps.
Re. Grey's Anatomy:
I gave this up in series 2 because I just couldn't stand another minute of that ghastly Izzie character, or the eternally whining, complaining, crying, and general all-round misery Meredith. They are two of the worst characters ever invented on TV, and they are together, on one show. Now where's that remote?
Huh. Now that the TWOP staff is constantly complaining about Sylar, I remember last year's 'Seven Things Heroes Needs to Do to Stop Sucking' with 'add more Sylar.' Be careful what you wish for, people. Mwahahahaha.
As for sidekicks who must go (read: die), I dunno, I don't think any of these sidekicks take up too much time on respective shows. And you are overreacting anyway. Breathe in and relax. If a secondary character can ruin a show for you, try paying attention to everything else, like, oh maybe the show itself? Jeez, it's crazy how viewers get all bloodthirsty about freaking fictional characters.
Thirteen, Kim, Mohinder (though I'd like to package in the rest of the 'Heroes' too - well most of them), Charlotte, most of Greys, Lois and Rebecca & Ruby - heck for the first time in ages I actually agreee with one of Twop's lists, I'm shocked.
I can't actually say much about the crapness (or non crapness) of Randy, Samnatha and Rufus as I don't watch their shows. But I'm sure they're on the money too. Although isn't Rufus played by Matthew Settle? He sucks? But he's so awesome to look at!?
"However, there are many more characters on Heroes that I would prefer to get the axe, first and foremost Claire. I found her very interesting in S1 and I've only heard good things about Hayden P."
Really? I've only heard bad things about Hayden P and have hated Claire from the get-go. She was a whiny lil bitch in the pilot ep and has only gotten down-hill.
Kill the Cheerleader, save us all!
I'm going to nervously venture an opinion on Lois Lane's inclusion on the list - I'm personally disappointed by the way the character's been written on Smallville. I do get upset that the show's fans take it out on each other/ other characters/ the actors though - rather than on the writers which is where the blame should squarely lay.
As far as I'm concerned the writers have engineered this situation where Chloe/Lois comparisons are inevitable because Chloe [i]was[/i] a well written character - why couldn't they have done the same with Lois? Is it deliberate or incompetent? Either way, I personally have to agree - Lois needs to go to improve the show. Don't think it'll happen though.
Hey, at least people still care about Smallville!
As for New Ruby, she doesn't seem to bear a lot of resemblance to Old Ruby, which is a real shame.
I'm sorry I didn't explain myself clearer, but what I ment is this show at least generally follows the Superman mythos so the fact that Lois would eventually end up at the DP could not have been a surprise. The writers also did show Lois working her way to the DP by working at the Inquisitor and going after stories no matter where they took her.
Chloe to begin with, was supposedly a Lois achetype seeing as they could not initially get the rights to the character. So it is understandable that the comparisions and theories could have happened. Allison Mack as Chloe has evolved as a charecter into her own seperate enitity.
And if you really want to me to be honest, I would say look at the ratings. Episodes with Lois do better than episodes without her. So that stands to reason that the generall Smallville watcher likes her and what she is doing for the show. Erica Durance herself premotes the heck out of SV as well, much more than any other of the main cast. So it would seem to be fool hardy to kill one of the few iconic Superman charecters left on the show.
The producers stated firmly that Not-at-all-like-Lois had indeed taken Chloe's life right before Hex aired. They have also said previously that Nois and Clark have always had a brother -(and so annoying) sister relationship which does make her sudden pawing interst in Clark seem really creepy. Nois has never been shown to develop at all but was lightswitched into eveything needed to put her in the DP without her having earned her spot there.
And yes, I do like to remind people that Nois was hired for her looks, not talent or experience and she did screw her boss for favored treatment (if there's nothing wrong with that, why do her fans hate it so much when people bring it up?); that is something the real Lois would NEVER EVER do and it does makes Nois look like a skank interested only in getting herself famous, not in digging for the truth.
I have watched every ep of this show and I have been reading Superman comics for a very long time so I can say with no hesitation this Not-Lois is in no way the real thing.
This coming for paranoiac-Chloisers is real rich - the fandom who couldn't prevent bashing Erica whenever an Erica interview was posted at TVGuide when the "Clois extremists" displayed a modicum of respect when AM's interview was posted or how some of the Chlois moderators conducted themselves or the fact that Chloisers have a sign-on for a Clois site to lurk/spy.
Have you ever realized that the people on TV you hate are mostly females? 6 females and only 3 males says to me that this list is full of jealousy.
I completely agree with the whole list especially Lois from Smallville. I really hope the writers come to their senses and kill her off or send to her off to a far away place. We don't need her in Smallville this is the story of Clark Kent before he becomes Superman so she's not needed, she's just the dead weight on this show.
Man. I don't even care about Clark's love life but the vitriol against Lois and her portrayer is horrible on this site, so much so that I don't come here anymore. Seriously, get some perspective and stop the crazy bashing. It only makes me dislike Chloe and that makes me sad because I actually do like her and Lois. Fans=MAJOR FAIL.
SO MUCH WORD!!!
Nois (AKA SVLOIS)is such an eyesore. Dumb sluts can never be Heroines. No wonder the show is sinking under her FAIL.
s10 is a delusion.
"Finally, as one of those crazy obsessive sociopathic Chloe fans who is clearly doing nothing but calling my opponents names, I do have to ask that you not judge the "Lois" fans too harshly. Anger is just one of the stages of grief and it seems their girl, Lois, stands a very good chance of going the way of the dodo bird in the season finale as one of the much touted "deaths that stick" because;"
Was this supposed to be satire?
Lois... yea i have to kinda agree on the fact that she is a little annoying. I'm trying not to be rude because I've been reading the comments and not just the pro-Chloe ones but the Pro-Lois ones too and i feel that, well SVLois is just annoying, and a very poor character in all honestly.
Its obiviously not ED's fault or AM's fault or anyone but the creators, the producers, the writers, those people. The people who created this version of Lois Lane who is conceited, pushy, arrogant, and just down right, again annoying. And yes i guess in the original comics she was some of those adjectives but unless you can back up that conceitedness with actual skill and knowledge, its like she's a little girl playing dress up in mommy's clothes. The creators of the show spent time developing their version of Lois lane and now that its time for her to grow up and become the iconic Lois lane most people know they haven't done anything but give her, and i emphasize the word give, all these accolades with no cause or reason given by their character Lois.
I think the writers shouldn't have rushed this, SVlois isn't suddenly going to become Lois Lane ace reporter because they write it as so. I would hope that before they do they would first try and mature Lois, she needs to learn how to find a story, get the truth, and become a great reporter in time. She needs to get more experience actually finding fact and working a plausible explanation rather than creating an explanation and making the facts fit. We need to see her work for it like any other person because the Lois Lane i want to see is a normal human being, a down to earth girl who knows that there is no such thing as a free lunch in our world and that people who get things handed to them on a silver platter have to work twice as hard to prove that they deserve everything their getting.
"SVlois isn't suddenly going to become Lois Lane ace reporter because they write it as so."
That's exactly the way it's going to happen. What you mean is, some segments of fandom might not like it, but, yes, the folks who write for the show have the final say-so. LOL. This bizarre Chlois theory seems like an example of fans being unable to separate their own wish-fulfillment fantasies from the reality that they're not the ones responsible for the final product.
I meant that yes they can write it in but are we really going to believe it? I mean suddenly out of the blue she become "Lois Lane great reporter" and we don't even see it happening its just there because they wrote it in, we don't see her working, we don't see her snooping for stories, all we hear about is "great job lois on your story" What story???? I mean the show is supposed to be focused on Clark but Lois is going to have to become a more prominent character and since she can't exactly help with the whole superhero gig they should either become more involved in her work or drop her from the show and put her back in later when she becomes Lois Lane Ace reporter.
Because Lois isn't supposed to know anything about Clark's powers not yet anyway and since the whole show is Clark using his powers for whatever reason in each episode where's the time to be with Lois???? Every other character can be integrated in since they all deal with clark and his powers, but lois is just out there drifting in the wind totally out of the loop and what's she going to do? The show is setting up what is to be in the future that he becomes superman has other allies and figures out his whole heritage and what not. Lois is supposed to meet him after all that happens because after that all he does is stop villains and work for the paper. The show is still focused on revealing every little historical event that happens to clark kent that he doesn't have the simplicity of going to work, fighting crime, and wooing lois. so where does lois, who has no idea what is really going on, fit in?