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Bones: You'd Better Shape Up

Bones has long been the one crime-fighting procedural show that I watch on a regular basis. There are others that I find enjoyable (I'm loving Lie to Me right now, and Castle is growing on me) but Bones has always been the one that I watch the night it airs and really look forward to. Lately though, its been really off, and I'm getting sort of discouraged. Its spot on an already overcrowded Thursday night -- as well as the other recent scheduling issues -- isn't helping matters at all. It's fast going from a favorite to frustrating in my book. I hope that things get turned around, and soon. Here are my biggest issues with the show.

Too many hallucinations
I was okay with Booth playing hockey and getting knocked to the ground and having a famous hockey player give him some dreamy advice. But when coupled with the fact that there was an entire episode where a dead soldier helped Booth escape a soon-to-be exploded boat, it makes it a little ridiculous. That's not even mentioning the upcoming hallucination (which is next on my list). When did this become their go-to story arc? Knock Booth on the head and have his unconscious self solve the crimes? Not cool.

The Family Guy Crossover
Really? I don't care if it is a hallucination or not, this just seems ridiculous and a little too much like something you'd see on Grey's Anatomy. I don't really like Family Guy to begin with, which makes it so much worse.

Revolving Zacks
I can't believe that we are more than halfway through the season, and they still haven't found a replacement for Zack. I get that he was an integral part of the team, but most of the subs seem competent. At this point, I'm not even sure I really care which one. They all have some irksome quirks, but as soon as we settle on one, I can learn to accept the intern oddness and get on with my life.

Putting Booth out of commission
A couple of times this season they've had Booth injured, which means that annoying agent Perotta steps in. The best thing about this show is the relationship between Brennan and Booth. Their tag-team investigations are what makes me interested in watching, not seeing Brennan with some other random FBI person who I don't really care for. And why is Booth injured so much? From the hockey thing, to having his back out... it's getting a little out of hand. Let my fave tough guy on the show be tough.

Things just don't jibe
It's almost like they're forgetting details that don't matter. Like Bones was having a hard time driving a sports car a couple episodes back, but didn't she own a sports car at one point? Wasn't there a whole thing about how she had all sorts of money and could afford flashy cars back in Season 1 or 2? Am I hallucinating that? I'd like to think that I'm misremembering in this case, and that the writers aren't just being lazy.

Brennan's Not Herself
I've always loved the smart, strong-willed, analytical side of her, but lately it seems like they don't know what they are doing with her. From making her exceedingly rude about a fellow employee's religious practices, to alluding to the fact that she's interested in having children, to making her think she could do Booth's job... it all just seems off and out of character. Brennan used to appreciate people who had been trained to do a job, and you'd think she'd understand that Booth had spent his entire life learning how to interrogate people, without an entire episode devoted to it. And she's previously had issues with religion, but never seemed so openly hostile about someone practicing as she did with the Muslim intern who took prayer breaks. And a baby? She's never seemed to have the burning desire to procreate, so even hinting at that is kind of bizarre.

Ripped From the Headlines
Last episode's pregnancy-pact thing just wasn't as clever as the usual oddball cases that make this show more intriguing than your garden variety CSI. Not to say that every case has to have bones turning into foam or involve cannibalistic behavior, but this one just felt like someone read that recent story in the paper and said, "Hey, let's do pregnant girls and one of them ends up dead."

Again, I am a fan of this show, and will continue to be, but it is becoming less of a must-see show for me, and becoming more and more of the kind of show where I don't care if I miss an episode. Which is sad. I hope that the flurry of upcoming episodes find this show back to its old self, though with Stewie Griffin making an appearance... I'm just not so sure.

What's your take? Are you loving this season?

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April 2, 2009 5:43 PM
Amy Z
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I've got to agree with most of this. Although, I kind of like the revolving interns. However, it has gone on for some time. I do still enjoy watching the show, but it's not must see TV for me. I DVR it, but hardly ever watch it "live" or even on the day it airs anymore.

April 2, 2009 6:15 PM
Lis
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You're not hallucinating the sports car-- in the beginning of the show, when it wasn't awful, Brennan loved to drive and often begged Booth to let her drive the car they were in. Also, and this I'm not sure about, I thought there was an episode or two where Booth was jealous of her car.

From the completely illogical decision to make Zack a serial killer (or would-be serial killer, or helper of a serial killer) on, this show has sucked. Which is why I have not watched it this whole season.

April 2, 2009 8:10 PM
Lyna
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If they actually have a pregnancy storyline on here, with Brennan, I am done. That would be my breaking point, because I feel like there was at least one point early on in the show where she expressed a desire to NOT have kids. Or am *I* hallucinating?

April 2, 2009 8:20 PM
Bissrok
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I turned off that last episode as soon as I saw where they were going with the pregnancy pact. Also skipped the one with the army buddy and the one where Booth was buried alive and saw a ghost, or some nonsense.

As for the interns, I hope they bring back that guy that doesn't give a shit about their personal problems. I can respect that. I certainly wouldn't want to hear Angela ramble on about her relationships or the crazy science fiction technology she seems to build in between orgies and marriages.

April 2, 2009 8:45 PM
Rebekah
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I was really frustrated by Brennan insisting that she can learn, in a few easy lessons, how to do Booth's job. Up until now she has alway respected his skill set, which is what made them such a good team. This seemed to fly in the face of that.

April 2, 2009 9:44 PM
hjch
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Other than enjoying the rotating interns, I completely agree.

I'd like my old Bones back.

April 2, 2009 10:11 PM
Gin
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This went from one of my favorite shows to one you couldn't pay me to watch. I hate what they did with Zack. Hate what they did to Angela/Hodgins. Hate the slapstick that has replaced the more subtle humor. I watched half of the season premiere and knew I was out for good. Haven't been able to watch since. But I miss my Bones.

April 2, 2009 10:15 PM
Sarah
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Agreed on most of it. Throw in the guy who plays hockey with Booth, he'd be a good "Zack." He's less annoying than the others and would leave more room to grow. You're completely right about the car.

I was mad at how they treated the Muslim intern (it was like they'd never met a religious scientist, even though the two often go hand-in-hand). It was so extreme it was out of character. Brennan trying to learn Booth's job, though, I was okay with. I think she's always been a little self-conscious about how she relates to people, and she admires Booth for it. When she heard that she might be able to learn how to do what this person she admires does, and that she could use her favorite thing--reason--she probably went overboard.

April 2, 2009 10:48 PM
Jeff
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I miss this show. It was so well written. It was sly, and witty, and well constructed.

We all acknowledge the Zach-Gorgomon plot was extremely poorly handled. As was the 'Booth is shot, no he's not'. But there was hope that was a misstep, an unfortunate result of the writer's strike. But it's gone completely off the rails.

In a smart show, characters need to be consistent. Of course they change and develop, but that development needs to be consistent with their character. Continuity errors, goofy gimmicks. I miss this show.

April 2, 2009 10:54 PM
Jeff
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I miss this show. It was so well written. It was sly, and witty, and well constructed.

We all acknowledge the Zach-Gorgomon plot was extremely poorly handled. As was the 'Booth is shot, no he's not'. But there was hope that was a misstep, an unfortunate result of the writer's strike. But it's gone completely off the rails.

In a smart show, characters need to be consistent. Of course they change and develop, but that development needs to be consistent with their character. Continuity errors, goofy gimmicks. I miss this show.

April 2, 2009 11:12 PM
Mark
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I am loving this show also missing it!great storylines ever,though Now I am in Lost...still love it!

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April 3, 2009 12:50 AM
Ellen
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who is baffled by this show. It seemed to go down the drain right around the time TWOP wrote about how it was the best procedural on TV.

I found Zach annoying and would be happy with pretty much any one of the replacements they've had. I also disliked the Angela/Hodgins coupling because I don't really like Hodgins.

Agree on everything else, though.

April 3, 2009 1:10 AM
valueofaloonie
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Bones *did* have a sporty car! The Gravedigger (was that his name?) buried Hodges and her in it! I think.

But I agree with this 100%. It's not the same show anymore. Now, I'd rather watch a rerun than a new episode.

April 3, 2009 2:39 AM
Jill
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Haven't watched since the absurd and insulting Zach storyline mishandling, and it sounds like I'm not missing much - yay!

April 3, 2009 2:40 AM
Snark Shark
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Mark me up as another "pro revolving interns" vote. It's been the one bright spot in an otherwise grim season.

Brennan better start acting like Brennan again, or I'm outta there.

April 3, 2009 2:53 AM
EM
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Bones used to be the only show that I actually watched when it aired - preempting any plans that I might have had.
Now? I really don't care if I miss an episode.

I am a B/B shipper but I liked them MUCH better when the chemistry wasn't so contrived. The OTT contrived OMG!-B+B-ARE-MEANT-TO-BE-TOGETHER scenes are quite efficiently evoking antipathy from me.

Another problem I'm having with season 4 is that the other squints don't *nearly* get enough time onscreen due to HH throwing BB anvils at our heads. Angela, Hodgins, Camille have become caricatures of their selves - although I did enjoy today's Cam-centric episode very much. Bring back the sensitive Angela from S1 & S2. Give Hodgins more screen time -- he deserves it.

Also, the science is getting LOUSY. That's coming from someone who hasn't taken chemistry since leaving highschool. Hydrofluoric acid (Bones that Foam) would have SERIOUS effects on them. Minor symptoms: Chest pain, fever, bluish lips and fingernails, acute pooling in the lungs and chills. That's grade 10 chemistry.

Honestly, I'm planning on sticking until season finale. If that has something *relatively* good to offer, I'll stick around for the next season. If not, I'm going to contend myself with reruns of seasons 1, 2 and every episode except the finale of season 3. The only reason I'm still putting up with the glorified sh*t cake this show is offering is because I love all the characters.

April 3, 2009 2:55 AM
EM
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That would be "themselves" not their selves :)

April 3, 2009 4:36 AM
Bonnie
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I agree whole heartedly. Every time I watch an episode from S1-S2, I hate S4 even more. I watch every new episode of Bones hoping that it'll return to it's old glory and I'm always disappointed. It feels like ever since the Zac debacle in the S3 finale it has gone off the rails. Even episodes that should be great, like the conclusion of the Gravedigger arc, are horribly disappointing.

April 3, 2009 4:37 AM
FJS
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ICAM to your entire blog. Has something changed with the writing team? This season has been so off. I feel like they all need to go back and watch Season 1 to find out who these characters are. How could they screw up Brennan so badly?

April 3, 2009 5:38 AM
DeeDee
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i love Brennans change cos its only cos of Booth...i agree with Zack and especialy with halucination of Parker...im okey with family guy cos all i care about is that that little guy its gonna make booth and brennan hook up or just make over...i dont know the show itself and i dont care...its gonna be more fantasy episode and what...i think its kinda every fanfic i read so why do ppl mind having there a cartoon haha...
i really changed my mind about Cam in the last episode...i didnt mind her before but she wasnt my fav at all...but now i like her more:)also i loved the way how she compared B&B relationship to her and her ex doc bf haha:)
i think including all of the changes i think its just improvment and i love every epidsode ever aired:) and i will im very sure of that!:)

April 3, 2009 6:43 AM
Bob
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Has there ever been a show where the 2 leads have so little on-screen chemistry? Its like watching a plank of wood and an icicle. If they ever do get together its going to be like watching your brother and sister getting it on.

April 3, 2009 9:32 AM
Michelle
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Word to your entire post, Angel. In addition to those points, I'd like to add Sweets. Ugh. Suddenly Booth is incapable of doing an interrogation without that idiot? Please. I want my Booth back, not this poser. This whole Brennan wants a kid thing is ridiculous. I don't even recognize her anymore. It's sad. At this rate I don't want her and Booth together EVER and and I'm a big BB shipper.

April 3, 2009 9:47 AM
jya
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Like previous comments, I'm going to agree with everything but the revolving interns too. I do kind of like them.
I'd also like to add the bisexual Angela to the list. Bleck!
I use to watch this show all the time and looked forward to new episodes. Now I figure I'll just catch the reruns on TNT.

April 3, 2009 10:13 AM
Clamjamfry
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Perhaps the writers have finally just had enough of Kathy Reichs, the horrible, shrill woman whose "experience" is the basis for the show. Maybe she ran out of case files (since she isn't very accomplished in real life, this would make sense), or maybe she just pissed off all the writers by being herself. Avoid.

April 3, 2009 10:16 AM
Chelsea
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I do agree with some of the points above, but Bones is still one of my favorite shows on TV. I don't like the hallucinations, or Agent Perotta, and the Family Guy thing ... I love both shows but honestly? Not a fan of the crossover so randomly.

I don't mind the revolving interns. I would like them to pick one already. Or all of them. Except the annoying girl, but that's done now, good.

Even with these things, I still think Bones is my favorite procedural on TV and I watch it religiously every Thursday.

April 3, 2009 10:16 AM
Chelsea
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I do agree with some of the points above, but Bones is still one of my favorite shows on TV. I don't like the hallucinations, or Agent Perotta, and the Family Guy thing ... I love both shows but honestly? Not a fan of the crossover so randomly.

I don't mind the revolving interns. I would like them to pick one already. Or all of them. Except the annoying girl, but that's done now, good.

Even with these things, I still think Bones is my favorite procedural on TV and I watch it religiously every Thursday.

April 3, 2009 10:18 AM
Senorpants
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I have to agree with all of this, though I never noticed much of it before. The show still makes me smile, though.

However, I think the hallucinations and Booth absences are leading to the plot line that he is seriously ill.

I read that last season's big problem was that the writer's strike cut the time they needed to develop the Zack story line. I think they probably should have just dropped it.

April 3, 2009 10:21 AM
EF
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I'm another one who was lost to the horrible writing. I discovered Bones in season 2, rented and watched all of season 1 and was ready to enjoy another series...but, goodness, it's become awful. Not interesting in the slightest and I am usually filled with a desire to give Brennan a good slap. I'm supposed to like the hero/heroine, right? Hmmmm...I like Booth when the writers remember he's not an idiot.

April 3, 2009 10:22 AM
Enthused Fish
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I'm another one who was lost to the horrible writing. I discovered Bones in season 2, rented and watched all of season 1 and was ready to enjoy another series...but, goodness, it's become awful. Not interesting in the slightest and I am usually filled with a desire to give Brennan a good slap. I'm supposed to like the hero/heroine, right? Hmmmm...I like Booth when the writers remember he's not an idiot.

April 3, 2009 10:27 AM
mog
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Glad *I* wasn't hallucinating the change in Brennan!

Seriously... in the first two seasons she was never robotic. She always found a way to relate to the social situations around her via some antro quote. Where as now it seems to have taken the "Brennan is a social retard" joke waaaay too far. There is a difference between making the character flawed and impaired. When did Brennan become cranky and robotic?

Also they are seriously underusing the rest of the crew. The best part of this show was always the fact there was more of a team than just a duo.

Castle has the potential to steal my weekly procedural slot just because Bones is beginning to grate.

April 3, 2009 10:29 AM
Kaitlin
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I seem to be in the minority here, but I actually like the show. Granted there are some things that have changed, but I think it's GOOD to see Brennan change. BECAUSE PEOPLE CHANGE ALL THE TIME.

Characters changing always seems to bother people. And I admit, even I get upset sometimes, but it's what happens in the real world. I think Brennan changing her ideas about people after working with Booth for so long is a good thing.

And I do like the revolving interns. But I will agree that they messed up the Zack storyline. As well as the Angela/Hodgins storyline. Though it appears they're trying to fix the latter one now...

April 3, 2009 10:32 AM
Kaitlin
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I seem to be in the minority here, but I actually like the show. Granted there are some things that have changed, but I think it's GOOD to see Brennan change. BECAUSE PEOPLE CHANGE ALL THE TIME.

Characters changing always seems to bother people. And I admit, even I get upset sometimes, but it's what happens in the real world. I think Brennan changing her ideas about people after working with Booth for so long is a good thing.

And I do like the revolving interns. But I will agree that they messed up the Zack storyline. As well as the Angela/Hodgins storyline. Though it appears they're trying to fix the latter one now...

April 3, 2009 10:39 AM
Kaitlin
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I seem to be in the minority here, but I actually like the show. Granted there are some things that have changed, but I think it's GOOD to see Brennan change. BECAUSE PEOPLE CHANGE ALL THE TIME.

Characters changing always seems to bother people. And I admit, even I get upset sometimes, but it's what happens in the real world. I think Brennan changing her ideas about people after working with Booth for so long is a good thing.

And I do like the revolving interns. But I will agree that they messed up the Zack storyline. As well as the Angela/Hodgins storyline. Though it appears they're trying to fix the latter one now...

April 3, 2009 10:42 AM
kkowalski
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I've been disappointed in the show, as well. Last night's episode made me dislike Angela even more, if that was even possible. I always found her to be annoying and fake, with her "sweetie"s and stuff.

I wish Hodgins would just find another woman who would appreciate him more because he deserves that.

Brennan hasn't just changed, she's devolved. She was always a little awkward in social situations, but now she's just plain stupid in them.

April 3, 2009 10:57 AM
leahruthie
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so i don't really watch this show--i just tuned in for the pregnancy-pact episode because a good friend of mine was cast as the dead body of the week (the hot blonde in the volleyball photos). yay maria!

anyway, so i watched the episode, and as a casual observer, i have to say the thing that stuck out to me most is how much of a freakin' robot the main chick (brennan, i'm assuming?) is. it was actually kind of distracting, and made me think that i don't think i could regularly watch a show in which one of the lead characters is a total robot. however, now that i've read the comments, i feel like i should watch some early-season episodes, and maybe she (and therefore the show) would be more likeable? i also was pretty flabbergasted at how insensitive they were to that intern's prayer breaks. i mean, i get that it's annoying to have someone leave every couple of hours to go have a full-on prayer session, but they were openly rude about it. weird.

anyway, just an outsider's thoughts. :)

April 3, 2009 11:12 AM
Bart
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I love this show, the changes have been a bit odd. And the crossover with family guy is not right.It would been good with dollhouse or house. I don't like family guy and i think well regret it in the end. I well still watch this show untill it goes off the air. I hope they change the season and bring back the original guy from the first 2 season.

April 3, 2009 11:34 AM
Terry
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I am hoping they make Wendell the new Zack. I like him. He's a little more season one Zack (young, studious, but mentally sharp) without being a Zack-redux. He's a little hipper, a little more of the world. And I'd like to see him back in a more permanent position.

As for "And a baby? She's never seemed to have the burning desire to procreate, so even hinting at that is kind of bizarre." ...
I think as Show-Brennan is getting older, and Book-Brennan has a kid, they are moving her in that direction.

April 3, 2009 11:57 AM
Steph
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Completely disagree, completely. Not much else I can say about this article, other than it simply being someone having a good whine.

April 3, 2009 12:13 PM
Nicole
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I don't understand how the hardcore fans can just ignore the complete downfall of this show. It's OBVIOUS. How can you not see the show disintegrating before your eyes?

Angel, thanks for pointing out some of the problems with the show. You left one out. The B/B anvils. It's become the main focus of the show, now. B/B being shoved down our throats to the point were a lot of B/B shippers are sick of B/B. I'm not a shipper, but it was the main cause of me to stop watching the show, completely. "Bones" is just disjointed and it's lost the awesome balance they had in s1 and s2.

April 3, 2009 12:14 PM
Nicole
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I don't understand how the hardcore fans can just ignore the complete downfall of this show. It's OBVIOUS. How can you not see the show disintegrating before your eyes?

Angel, thanks for pointing out some of the problems with the show. You left one out. The B/B anvils. It's become the main focus of the show, now. B/B being shoved down our throats to the point were a lot of B/B shippers are sick of B/B. I'm not a shipper, but it was the main cause of me to stop watching the show, completely. "Bones" is just disjointed and it's lost the awesome balance they had in s1 and s2.

April 3, 2009 12:18 PM
Sinkwriter72
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Finally! I am so glad someone's calling out Bones and its showrunners for the ways in which it is degrading in quality, episode by episode. It's becoming an over-the-top, forced-comedy mess. What happened to the beautiful balance it used to have: drama and comedy, attention to detail, and attention to all the lovely characters and their relationships (not just romantic ones but the friendships and teamwork, too)? And why are the writers now treating the audience as if we're stupid (shoving overly obvious Booth/Brennan dialogue in our face as if we don't realize they're supposed to become a couple)? What happened to the subtleties the writers used to take when approaching their relationship, as professional partners and as a potential romantic couple?

Granted, there are still occasional moments that are impressive and good, due to the talents of the actors, but when we used to enjoy the episodes in their entirety, brief moments aren't going to cut it.

Yes, characters change, that's enormously important, but it needs to be realistic, understandable change... not de-evolution to the point of ridiculous, over-the-top behaviors forced for the sake of unnecessary comedy, as many people have pointed out above.

For example, Booth having a hissy fit in the middle of the streets of London? This is a guy who takes being an FBI agent seriously: look at how he represented when traveling to L.A.; he told off the agent there for spending more time shopping her screenplay than being a good FBI agent. And he's a sniper and Army ranger; you're telling me he's never been to another country and known how to behave?

As well, the fact that they keep giving his strongest traits to other characters (like having Sweets tell him how to interrogate people when Booth has always been a talented interrogator with excellent gut instincts and a funny, smirky way of sussing out his suspects' lies) is ludicrous.

You provide prime examples about Brennan as well. Yes, she did used to own a sporty vehicle; in fact, there was a whole scene where she told Hodgins her publisher gave the car to her because her first book did so well; as a result, she was feeling pressured to come up with a killer second novel to 'earn' the sports car she'd been gifted. Therefore, the notion that she doesn't know how to drive properly was just cooked up by the writers as part of their overly slap-sticky approach to this character and this entire season. It's incredibly frustrating.

The baby thing? Well, I can see them planting little tidbits as if that's somehow going to explain her 'change.' Note her recent, emphatic dinner conversation with Angela about how 'people change their minds all the time' -- I'm pretty sure that was the writers' way of saying, see, we're putting it in place so her change of mind about babies make sense. However, as I said above, change needs to be *seen* over time, not provided by forced dialogue and forced moments that they stick in the show in an attempt to 'explain' change. That one conversation, plus one episode involving a baby, is not enough to override episodes and episodes of Brennan insisting she's never going to have kids. If anything, I'd love to see this show go to an unconventional place, should they decide to take Brennan in that direction: from my view, given her almost immediate connection to anyone who's been through the foster care system, she'd be much more inclined to take in foster kids than she would be to have a biological child of her own.

While I could provide plenty of examples of how the acting is always superb, I can just as easily provide multitudes of examples of how the writing this season has been incredibly, bafflingly weak. Given how much I love this show and how I have seen the writers do SO MUCH better, it's painfully disappointing. I would never expect that from the same people who gave us gorgeous, subtle, balanced writings as seen in The Woman in Limbo; Blonde in the Game; Girl With The Curl; Two Bodies In A Lab; Judas On A Pole, and most especially Aliens In A Spaceship. There is simply no comparing any of this season's episodes to those jewels.

I really, really hope they return to that beautiful, intelligent style of writing. Without it, this show and its characters become less and less than they could be.

April 3, 2009 12:22 PM
Sinkwriter72
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Apologies for the lengthy post above. Obviously, I enjoy this show and these characters immensely. The writing used to be so much smarter, more balanced, and more emotionally effective. That is why it's so painful and disappointing to me to see it de-evolve in the ways that it has. As with many others posting here, I want my show back.

April 3, 2009 12:28 PM
Nicole
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Oh, Sinkwriter72. As always, you've hit the nail on the head. Beautifully, stated.

April 3, 2009 12:38 PM
Bones Fan
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If you don't like it, stop watching it.

April 3, 2009 12:43 PM
Euripidean
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I quite enjoyed the first two series of Bones; it wasn't the best or brightest show on television, but it knew how to poke fun at itself, could occasionally be dark and had a sense of humour. Then came the televisual suicide of the last episode of the third series. What the hell was that all about? I was literally foaming at the television with anger that such bad writing had made it onto an international programme. Where on earth was any of the 'build-up' for this gigantic revelation? And don't go blaming the writers' strike, because the finale of House was written in the same amount of time and blew my mind.
Basically, I now Sky+ this show to criticise it and learn how *not* to write for television. A shame.

April 3, 2009 12:45 PM
Amber
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If you don't like what people are saying, stop reading.

April 3, 2009 12:46 PM
Alia
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This show never really came back from the writers' strike. Ever since the whole Gormagon debacle, Bones has been totally off its game. Angela dumps Hodgins and starts dating a chick? Zack is Hannibal Lecter? Add to that the fact that Bones has gone from brainy-awkward to full-on Asperger's, and Booth is now a brainless cartoon of his former self, and you've got trouble. And don't even get me STARTED on this whole Family Guy crossover. I HATE that stupid baby!!!!!!!!!!! I want him to DIE!!!!!!!!!! I'll watch out of loyalty to what the show used to be, but I'm totally dreading it.

I will say that i like the interns, especially Wendell and Vincent Nigel-Murray (British trivia guy). Wendell is probably the least gimmicky, so if they stick with one intern, it should be him. I also like Sweets. I'm not sorry they added him.

I'm not looking forward to a baby story at all, but they have been attempting to build up to it, starting with "The Baby in the Bough" (aka the "dancing filanges" episode). I wish they'd developed that storyline a little more obviously, though. I'm afraid it's going to feel like it's coming out of nowhere when - SPOILER - Brennan asks Booth to father her child later this season.

I can only hope Season 5 -- if there is one -- will be a vast improvement.

April 3, 2009 12:50 PM
Lewis H.
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I've watched it a few times this season. It just seems very forced now. The Thursday time also has made it harder for me to remember to watch. It was a Wednesday habit.

April 3, 2009 12:59 PM
Sinkwriter72
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Bones Fan, while I appreciate what you're saying, I think that's a typical, stock answer. "Don't like it? Stop watching." Perhaps you don't want to hear it when people express frustration about the show; I can respect that. However, just because I happen to see things differently doesn't make me less of a Bones fan than you or anybody else.

In fact, it's because I've been such a big Bones fan that I find it so frustrating and sad to see the writers writing with much less quality than they used to. I continue to tune in because I can't give up the hope that these brilliant people who came up with episodes like "The Woman In Limbo" and "Aliens In A Spaceship" will remember the beautiful way they used to treat these characters and each of their stories.

Looking at the posts above mine, obviously I'm not the only one who's been feeling this way. Maybe if more of us speak up about what we think, we will be heard and a better balance in the approach to the show can be found again. One can only hope! :)

April 3, 2009 1:30 PM
Anakerie
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Just need to point out that in the books Bones has a daughter. Never read them, but I believe she's a teenager. So the idea of Bones having a child isn't that nuts; it's already been done.

April 3, 2009 1:31 PM
Anakerie
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Just need to point out that in the books Bones has a daughter. Never read them, but I believe she's a teenager. So the idea of Bones having a child isn't that nuts; it's already been done.

April 3, 2009 1:35 PM
Bones Fan
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Sinkwriter72, I am perfectly fine with hearing people's opinion, I was just giving mine. I don't think I gave a 'stock' answer, just a simple solution. I personally don't think they're writing with less quality! I think they're writing differently, which is getting interpreted as 'bad quality', because lets face it a lot of people don't like change. That isn't meant to be rude btw. I don't really want to get attacked over a free exchange of ideas. I wish people would get over the season three finale. It was nearly a year ago, maybe that's what's holding you back from appreciaiting this season? You went into it with opinions about the writing because you didn't like the finale, and cannot keep an open mind about the changes the show has had? If you don't change things and shake things up, it'll stay the same and get boring, and that would just be something else to moan about. And Amber...I was being blunt, not rude, please don't be snippy with me, I am a fan like you, I love this show, and I was just defending it because I like the changes. We are all the same here, we love this show. Different opinions, are just that, opinions :D

April 3, 2009 1:41 PM
Temmere
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I've never been a huge fan of this show, but one thing I liked was Brennan's insistence that she was never going to have kids. Network TV can be really liberal when it comes to, say, homosexuality, but then be extremely conservative when it comes to children and child-rearing. It's so rare to find a character (especially a female one) that openly states her desire not to have children, a desire a lot of people in real life share. If they're rolling that back for Brennan then I am very disappointed. True, sometimes people change their minds, but sometimes they don't.

April 3, 2009 2:29 PM
valueofaloonie
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Anakerie, the Bones of the books and the Bones of the TV show are two completely different people sharing the same name, as far as I can tell.

And book Bones has always had a daughter, so it doesn't really make sense for them to decide suddenly that TV Bones needs a daughter because there's one in the books. But...that's just me.

April 3, 2009 2:35 PM
Caroline
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Bones Fan, the fact is that if all the people (such as most of those posting here) who don't like the changes stop watching, the show is going to get canceled. And then you won't be watching it anymore either. So unless they do something to fix the problems a majority of their audience sees, there's not going to be a show to complain about.

Can't have a show without an audience, after all.

April 3, 2009 2:37 PM
magda
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yeah, i too am enjoying castle more than bones these days... i decided after the last episode that it was it for me unless next season's opener is good...

April 3, 2009 3:19 PM
Valerie
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Bones has really been off this season. When I watched the "Grave Digger" episode from a previous season, I was reminded of how good it used to be. There are too many inconsistencies, and I don't like how they are rushing romance between Booth and Bones.

April 3, 2009 3:19 PM
Valerie
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Bones has really been off this season. When I watched the "Grave Digger" episode from a previous season, I was reminded of how good it used to be. There are too many inconsistencies, and I don't like how they are rushing romance between Booth and Bones.

April 3, 2009 3:21 PM
Bones Fan
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Caroline, I don't see it as the majority of fans who have issues, just the majority of fans that are posting, because in reality the number of fans who post 'complaints' (in inverted commas because I couldn't think of another word, and I don't want people to think I'm being mean as I'm not) are a small amount in comparison to the ones who watch. The majority of the audience don't post so there is no way to tell what all of the others are thinking. But anyway, we aren't going to agree, I don't think the show would get cancelled, because if the show was that bad it would've been cancelled already (obviously I don't want it to get cancelled).

April 3, 2009 4:28 PM
Sinkwriter72
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Bones Fan, thanks very much for responding and discussing this with me. It's awesome when people can talk respectfully with each other and I hope you feel I am doing the same with you.

As for my thoughts, I do actually think the quality has fallen. Not just because of the Season 3 finale, either.

I'm very cool with change. In fact, I just finished watching the Farscape series where -- even though the premise is fantastical in comparison to a show like Bones -- the changes in all of the characters from Season 1 to Season 4 was remarkable. But the difference is, it was in a believable, progressive way.

With Bones, I really do think the writers have lost touch with what makes all these characters tick. There's change, and then there's forcing stuff just for the sake of a comic moment.

For example, just last episode (Salt in the Wounds), the opening sequence showed classic Booth and Brennan, she examining the bones for evidence while he scoped out the overall crime scene.
We even see Booth's expression shift when Brennan points out that the victim was most likely a teenaged girl; it's an aspect of Booth that I love, sober when it's important to be. As a father of a young boy, as a former sniper, as a man who has killed, he takes death seriously. But the writers blew it by having him then make that crude comment (that the girl's remains, partially preserved because of rock salt, suddenly make him crave potato chips). That presents more of the out-of-character, over-obvious, clownish Booth of whom we've seen a lot this season. A forced comment meant to be 'funny,' this is the type of 'witty' Booth and Brennan banter the media has been touting a lot lately. But the thing is, it's not funny, and it's not Booth to say something like that. He can be an incredibly charming and funny character, but one thing I've always appreciated about him was his seriousness when it mattered the most, like when confronted with the death of a kid, as we see here. Instead, it feels like a prime example of how the writers have been forcing these 'comic' moments, as if that's the kind of pattern they're now expected to establish at the start of every episode.

Again, the thing to me is, when has this show ever been conventional like that? Its unconventionality -- in its characters and its premise -- was one thing I loved about this program. So why is it trying to force itself into a box now?

That's just one example. I could go on, but I don't know if you want to have that detailed a conversation back and forth here. *GRIN*

Nevertheless, thanks again for talking with me about it. I just felt like I should respond because I felt like your initial comment ("If you don't like it, stop watching it") is something I've heard from a lot of people who want to immediately dismiss my opinions (or the opinions of anyone who may not like every aspect of a program). Not saying you were trying to do that; I'm just saying that's been my experience with people when they say a comment like that and leave it that way without expanding upon their thoughts. On the contrary, you came back and posted further, and I am grateful for that. We may never agree with each other entirely, but at least we found a way to talk about it respectfully. :)

April 3, 2009 4:39 PM
Nicole
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Bones Fan, remember that people who still watch, watch out of habit, as well. Not because they still like "Bones". Like, us who agree with this post. I stopped watching, but most people have not. They are sticking it out hoping it gets better. And, every episode it's more disappointing. The fact is, more and more people are starting to think "Bones" is not that good, anymore. Yet, they still watch because they are invested in all the characters. So, they continue to watch, regardless. It happens with TV shows :)

Internet fans, whether they still like the show or not, are the minority.

April 3, 2009 4:54 PM
Sinkwriter72
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Good point, Nicole. (And thanks for your compliment earlier in this thread.)

The thing for me is, I keep watching because I've seen them do this show SO WELL, presenting the characters and the stories in really amazing ways, and because I loved that, I keep hoping they'll find their way back to doing it again.

Unfortunately, it seems they've lost their attention to details (like that car thing, which just made Brennan look like an idiot, when we know from the series that she does know how to drive, drove a sporty rental just fine in an L.A.-based episode, and has even owned a sports car). As well, they've lost their attention to these characters and the connections they all used to have, as individuals and as a team -- not just the Squints as individuals but the camaraderie they each have with Booth, and with Brennan, and as a whole team working and solving cases together. They've really lost that spirit, and it seems it's all in deference to the Booth/Brennan relationship. While that partnership is essential (they are the leads of the program, after all), it doesn't have to be the SOLE focus of the entire program. We've seen the writers create such balanced stories that focused on each and every character so beautifully; we know it can be done!

April 3, 2009 5:47 PM
PhillyLass
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replied to comment from Anakerie

Yes-- but the show has taken a number of liberties with the books: Tempe doesn't have an ex; there's no Booth and her recurring love interest is much different from Seelye; and the book Tempe isn't so socially awkward and hardcore about science

April 3, 2009 5:50 PM
Bones Fan
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Sinkwriter72, I suppose I see what you mean in one aspect, something like that is a little out of character, but it's not a deal breaker for me, as it were. I watch for the other moments. The ones like Booth telling Brennan she's special, Booth telling Clinton about his responsibilities. Brennan comforting Cam, Angela and Brennan's heart to hearts. Brennan saving Booth, Booth saving Brennan. That's what I love about the show. These little things aren't massive changes to me, I may notice them and think that's a little odd or something, but I watch it for the whole package, rather than little details, if that makes sense?

I pleased we can converse over this without nasty comments. My first comment was a little generalised, I understand that now, the reason for it, is when I have tried to have a conversation about different ideas, I have mostly been shouted down, so I have found it is best to be short and to the point. Obviously not everyone is like that :)

April 3, 2009 5:53 PM
PhillyLass
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I agree with every item on this list and want to add my name to the chorus of those who think Sweets is completely useless and has disrupted the dynamic of the show.

Also-- re. Bones's rudeness to the Muslim intern: 1) The writers made it seems like Muslims are some kind of alien life form and everyone was surprised that he had a life and a girlfriend and listened to mainstream music. It played like a really bad after-school special about how people are people, and we should all get along. 2) Brennan's reaction to him was rude, of course. But it was also out of character. She's not simply a scientist. She's an anthropologist. One of the things I used to like about the character was that she tried to understand the people around her through the anthropologist's lens of studying cultural differences. I would have expected her to react with curiosity about his commitment to his faith, rather than hostility.

April 3, 2009 5:54 PM
PhillyLass
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I agree with every item on this list and want to add my name to the chorus of those who think Sweets is completely useless and has disrupted the dynamic of the show.

Also-- re. Bones's rudeness to the Muslim intern: 1) The writers made it seems like Muslims are some kind of alien life form and everyone was surprised that he had a life and a girlfriend and listened to mainstream music. It played like a really bad after-school special about how people are people, and we should all get along. 2) Brennan's reaction to him was rude, of course. But it was also out of character. She's not simply a scientist. She's an anthropologist. One of the things I used to like about the character was that she tried to understand the people around her through the anthropologist's lens of studying cultural differences. I would have expected her to react with curiosity about his commitment to his faith, rather than hostility.

April 3, 2009 6:09 PM
Sinkwriter72
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True, the potato chip example is a single moment, but as a whole, I feel as though they've been treating all the characters that way. Especially Booth. In a broad context, one little moment like that doesn't seem like a big deal. But for me it's one example out of many I could list that have been showing Booth out of character all season. When looked at as a whole, it starts to get frustrating because as a viewer, I start to say, where the hell has Booth gone? Or Brennan, for that matter. It starts with one little thing and unravels from there. For me, I've been seeing these characters unraveling for the better part of a season and a half. That's why I'm sad and frustrated.

The examples you provided? Those are the moments I loved, too. Those are the character connection details that I feel are so important.

But that's the thing. They're just moments, not entire *episodes* of goodness. Those moments get lost within episodes that miss the mark because of forced characterizations, forced humor, forced storylines, and forgotten details, which (for me) kind of take the joy and heart out of fully appreciating those good moments. And it seems those moments between characters are much more rare these days.

When the episode as a whole can achieve it AND have those beautiful moments, then I think it's a classic Bones episode.

But when they spend almost an entire season with those out-of-character moments overshadowing the stories, forcing humor where it is unnecessary, even forcing Booth/Brennan moments when they used to approach the relationship with much more intelligence and subtlety... then I feel the quality is suffering.

I watch for the same moments that you do, I really do. I just know that they used to do it so much better as a whole, and that's what I'm talking about when I say I want my show back. I watch it for the whole package, and I think the whole package needs that attention to detail (detail of characters, detail of team energy, detail of stories, etc.). When the pieces get removed, the whole picture starts to disintegrate, you know what I mean? It's not that I hate the show; it's that I've seen them do it so much better and I'm baffled with what feels like such a 180 shift in attention away from the beautiful balance they used to have.

P.S. I know some people are like that, but I'd never shout you down if you wanted to have a conversation about the show. I think it's great! (And obviously you can probably see by now that I'm not good at being brief and to the point. Heee.) Thanks again for discussing this with me. :)

April 3, 2009 6:18 PM
Bissrok
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I can't watch this show as it airs anymore, I have to watch it on Hulu or something. I end up skipping 3/4 now days.

Oh, and with that last episode, I was able to get past a good deal of the terribleness, but as soon as I heard Sweets suggest hypnosis, I was gone.

I love Sweets more than most of the cast, I just can't stand it when he's controlling the interrogations or suggesting stupid shit like hypnosis. Combined with Angela using technology ten years too advanced and Booth using hallucinations to help him with the case, we're like a step away from Bones using telepathy to find out who the killer is.

April 3, 2009 6:20 PM
Lyna
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replied to comment from Temmere

Yes. This. Her lack of desire to have kids is part of what appealed to me about her character from the getgo, and I will be so done if they make her get pregnant now. That will be the final dealbreaker for me.

April 3, 2009 6:22 PM
Sinkwriter72
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PhillyLass, you make such a great point about Brennan in your post.

We've definitely seen that Brennan's not a fan of organized religion. However, she's never been so openly hostile and rude about it before. Even when she frustrated Booth, it came from a place of genuine curiosity and trying to understand. I thought Brennan's initial comment was in character, that whole part about how she finds all religions equally irrational. But the rest of her behaviors toward him seemed so filled with animosity, like she was angry with him. If they wanted to show that she thought someone with a rational, scientific mind should have a different view about religion (more empirical, the way she and Zack are), I wish they'd have created an actual dialogue about it between the two of them, rather than having her make rude comments and glare at him and seem baffled that he was once again praying, when -- as you astutely point out -- she as a well-traveled, knowledgeable anthropologist should know plenty about other cultures and their traditions, whether or not she agrees with them. It made her seem like rather than *challenging* his beliefs, she was insulting them. It's so out-of-character for her. I wish they'd allow her to progress naturally and remember who she is as a character. Is she the brilliant, thorough, well-traveled anthropologist who has studied and is fascinated by other cultures, or not?

April 3, 2009 6:37 PM
Nova
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Anakerie, the tv Bones is really nothing like the character in the book, and the writers' approach is completely different. Also, the writers handle the characters and tone of the stories very differently -- you don't see the slapstick humor and social retardation in Reich's version.

April 3, 2009 6:38 PM
forensicmama
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I don't agree with the hallucinations: That'll fit into the finale.

I don't agree with the Family Guy Crossover: That was unfair to begin with since that episode HASN'T EVEN AIRED. And once again, it fits into Booth's illness and it's quite serious, not as ridiculous as people are making it out to be.

The Revolving Zacks: Don't agree here either. I think we should move on already. Zack is gone and I happen to like a lot of the interns. Plus they keep the show fresh.

Putting Booth Out of Commission: Once again, it works into the show as a whole and that's an unfair assessment.

Things that don't jive: Yes, things have been off in some episodes. The driving thing was a lapse and that happens with all shows. It was a great scene though.

Brennan not herself: OK, once again, the baby-making episodes HAVEN'T AIRED YET and judging and episode BASED ON SIDES/SPOILERS is ridiculous, it's not even based on all of the available facts. We don't know what Brennan's thought process is on the subject and if Brennan never changed her mind on any thing, then she'd be a pretty boring character. She's evolving as REAL HUMANS do and that's fine by me. And Brennan was not being judgmental to the Muslim guy. She does that equally to all religions. Christians, too--and I'VE NEVER BEEN OFFENDED by Brennan's Anti-Christian/Anti-Jesus commentary because I know that's part of her character. Plus she's FICTIONAL.

Ripped from the headlines: You gotta get your ideas from somewhere and this was actually a great case. I wouldn't have known it was 'ripped from the headlines' if it weren't for the internet and my snooping problem.

Bottom line: Watch the whole season and don't freaking rip a show based on spoilers. That's unsubstantiated and that annoys me.

April 3, 2009 6:38 PM
forensicmama
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I don't agree with the hallucinations: That'll fit into the finale.

I don't agree with the Family Guy Crossover: That was unfair to begin with since that episode HASN'T EVEN AIRED. And once again, it fits into Booth's illness and it's quite serious, not as ridiculous as people are making it out to be.

The Revolving Zacks: Don't agree here either. I think we should move on already. Zack is gone and I happen to like a lot of the interns. Plus they keep the show fresh.

Putting Booth Out of Commission: Once again, it works into the show as a whole and that's an unfair assessment.

Things that don't jive: Yes, things have been off in some episodes. The driving thing was a lapse and that happens with all shows. It was a great scene though.

Brennan not herself: OK, once again, the baby-making episodes HAVEN'T AIRED YET and judging and episode BASED ON SIDES/SPOILERS is ridiculous, it's not even based on all of the available facts. We don't know what Brennan's thought process is on the subject and if Brennan never changed her mind on any thing, then she'd be a pretty boring character. She's evolving as REAL HUMANS do and that's fine by me. And Brennan was not being judgmental to the Muslim guy. She does that equally to all religions. Christians, too--and I'VE NEVER BEEN OFFENDED by Brennan's Anti-Christian/Anti-Jesus commentary because I know that's part of her character. Plus she's FICTIONAL.

Ripped from the headlines: You gotta get your ideas from somewhere and this was actually a great case. I wouldn't have known it was 'ripped from the headlines' if it weren't for the internet and my snooping problem.

Bottom line: Watch the whole season and don't freaking rip a show based on spoilers. That's unsubstantiated and that annoys me.

April 3, 2009 7:11 PM
djackio
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This blog doesn't make sense. Wasn't it just back in November that Angel was singing Bone's praises? Sure I know we're 4 months later but only 7 episodes (out of 18) have aired since then.

Yes Bones did have a sports car in season 1. I have no idea how one sports car differs from the next, maybe her old one was an automatic.

Yes Bones in Season 1 stated she didn't want children. It is totally realistic that someone would change their mind on that. They have set it in motion since the beginning of season 3 that her position on that was going to soften (baby Andy...)

Bone's reaction to the Muslim intern was not totally out of character. I'm sure if the setting were different i.e. they were investigating a Muslim or something along those lines rather than having someone under her tutelage whose obeying rites seem irrational. I think she expects that she, based on research in her field and ration thought has come to a conclusion that God doesn't exist and that religion is a societal phenomenon - having another scientist in her same field (albeit not a PhD)believing in things she's already dismissed is more than irksome.


April 3, 2009 7:40 PM
saffry
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I've stuck with a lot of shows through their ups and downs. Even when I get tired of them, it's usually a slowdown before I stop. I'll skip an episode or two, or wait until the end of the week to watch the tape. When the fall season started, I had serious doubts that I'd be able to get into it after the brutally ridiculous gormagon ending. I made it through about 20 minutes of the season premiere before turning it off and canceling my season pass. I have no interest in the characters, and I can't stand the writers. Nothing that I've heard about the season's progress has made me second guess my decision.

April 3, 2009 7:41 PM
KKB
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So much word. Most episodes lately, I watch and get the feeling that these particular writers don't really like Brennan. Either that, or they've taken the easy way out and tried to start writing her as a female House, which is lazy and a far, far cry from the character as she used to be. Remember when Brennan had a life? Friends and karate classes and such? And the compassion she had for the vulnerable, especially the foster children in that S1 episode? Gone. Now we get episodes that revolve around what a horrible, horrible person Brennan is (too smart, too rich, too logical, too whatever), and why she needs to be Put in Her Place.

As someone relatively indifferent to a B&B pairing, I actually thought they had more chemistry back in the day before the anvils started falling. Subtlety and organic development apparently aren't these writers' strong suits.

And as for the Zack thing? Complete disgrace. From what I've read, the showrunner basically did it to a)show how cool and edgy he is and b) make room for someone like Sweets, whose primary mission seems to be...you got it: getting B&B to hook up. Ego & Anvils, and a character who could barely examine the bones of a child without losing it is suddenly an Apprenti-gon, Brennan becomes an obnoxious Biz-natch, and Booth becomes a dumb jock.

I still watch it, but, as others have noted, it's not appointment TV anymore. If I watch it live, I watch it. If not, maybe I'll catch it on Hulu, maybe I won't. What's the point of following a show that'll throw everything away for one or two mildly amusing scenes' worth of slapping the main characters around?

April 3, 2009 7:54 PM
Bones Fan
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replied to comment from Sinkwriter72

No worries, it's nice to chat :) I definitely see where you are coming from, I do see the little changes etc. and the way the characters, oh, how to say it, approach to lines (??? if you get me) has changed, but I think the basics are still there. The way I see it, for a lot of fans this is Bones' bad season (every show has one, Buffy season 4, Angel season 4 etc.) so things will only get better for the people who are concerned. I'm glad that people aren't abandoning the show over their concerns too, it's nice that there is faith. I still have to stick with my original idea though, I see what you're saying, but it doesn't have such an impact on me, if you get me??? I love the show, and there are gonna be little bits that you cringe at, but I brush them aside because I know that it's still Booth and Brennan. They may say something slightly OCC but will be back to themselves in a flash during an episode. I started watching the show because of their chemistry, and still watch for that, because I don't think that's changed. I'm open to your ideas though, for sure, it's nice to hear both sides, I'm glad there is someone who is civil. And short and to the point, not all it's cracked up to be ;)

April 3, 2009 8:44 PM
Sinkwriter72
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Yep, Bones Fan, I think we're at a stalemate now. *chuckling* We've come to the point in our individual opinions where we agree to disagree. *GRIN* Great discussion, though.

>"And short and to the point, not all it's cracked up to be.

Heh. Thanks for that. ;D

*****
Quick note to KKB, really great points in your post. I agree, sad to say. :)

April 3, 2009 8:55 PM
Brody
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I wonder if this is a Season 4 phenomenon. Bones Fan mentioned that Buffy S4 and Angel S4 were weak. I've noticed the same thing with HIMYM and, of course, Bones. Can anyone think of other shows that have had particularly rocky fourth seasons?

April 3, 2009 9:04 PM
Deb
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I still love Bones but I see where alot of the posters are coming from. I think alot of the things thtat have happened this season have a means to an end and I, for one, am looking forward to that.
As far as the sports car thing, there is alot of difference in driving an automatic and a manual transmission and that is why she had so much trouble with the Audi.

April 3, 2009 11:10 PM
Hope
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I agree with much of what was said above, but I thought that the latest episode, The Doctor in the Den, was a lot better than most of the recent ones. Cam has never really had her own plot line, rather being the mean boss who took power from Brennan. I loved the character development in this episode, and I though that Brennan also showed development when she comforted Cam. The only exception I though was Angela's behavior, which was just obnoxious. In general, though, I wish more of the new episodes would be like that one.

Unfortunately, the Family Guy crossover sounds horrendous, so I'm not too hopeful.

April 4, 2009 12:03 AM
Ammit
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I have to disagree with most of the article. The first season Bones tried to be a serious procedural and I found it nearly unwatchable. Now it's a comedy with some procedural elements and I never miss an episode. I love the rotating interns, Agent Perotta and some of the other wacky stuff. My only complaint is that Angela has become a completely unlikable twit, and is dragging Hodgkins down with her (stop screwing on the damned exhibits). It's kind of funny, because in the first season she was the only character I liked.
I'm not usually in favour of dumbing down a show, but in this case I think it made a huge improvement.

April 4, 2009 12:09 AM
Ammit
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replied to comment from Brody

ps. In answer to Brody: I thought that Season 4 of Angel was it's strongest, not the weakest. Season 4 of Buffy was IMO a step down from what came before, but better than the last two seasons. A show that I did think went off the rails in Season 4 was Farscape.

April 4, 2009 3:55 AM
ridiculous article
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Wow, whoever decided that chick should write articles for twop must have been smoking their own living room's carpet. She's always changing her mind about every show. Go back to your old job miss, whatever it is that you were doing.. hooker, waitress, whatever it was, just stop writing, you're no good at it, you're just an annoying fangirl with no clue at all and wasting webspace making shit up.
Why don't you go tell Emily Deschannel she's being shit to her face, instead of bitching it here?

April 4, 2009 4:52 AM
Mama
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replied to comment from ridiculous article

YES! YES! YES!

Nobody wants to hear this monthly rant. Just turn off the d*mn TV.

April 4, 2009 6:36 AM
StillHere
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Errr...*I'd* like to hear the monthly rant. Especially when it's well-reasoned and supported by examples. You still like the show? Fine. Great. Tell us why. The whole "don't like it, don't watch it" argument isn't a "different opinion" it's smug and facile.

April 4, 2009 7:34 AM
Euripidean
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replied to comment from ridiculous article

Crikey, that's a bit venomous isn't it? I, for one, very much enjoyed reading someone else's opinions about the show and find people who shout down others' opinions in such an aggressive and inconsiderate way very tiresome indeed.

Anyway, back to the discussion: Thank you Sinkwriter72 and Bones Fan for your comments - I've found them to be informative and balanced, and I must say that SinkWriter has hit the nail on the head as to why I was drawn to the show in the first place - it had a slightly different edge to other procedural shows, and I did use to really enjoy the dynamic between Booth and all of the Squints, although I never believed that the characters were individually strong (this was in the first couple of seasons though, so I didn't really mind - I like my characters to be slow burners rather than open books) their interactions as a team were usually heart-warming and encouraged me to watch. Now, however, I sense that the priorities for the writers have changed and I don't quite understand why. The revelation of Zack as Gormagon's apprentice came out of no-where, and not in an exciting way: if one of your main supporting characters is going to leave the series, you need to treat them and the audience with a little more respect.

I think I would sum up the problem with Bones now by saying that it is no longer subtle, as a whole. The interactions are forced, the comedy slap-stick and the romance schmaltzy. Bring back the glances, the quips and the careful friendships or lose the audience.

April 4, 2009 10:07 AM
Nan
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I'm nowhere near abandoning the show, but it has felt a little off this season. The humor used to feel sly and subtle, but now often feels hokey rather than quirky.

The hallucinated dead army buddy was fine, and I do like the rotating interns. But there are things that haven't worked for me. I'm no fan of the p.c. depiction of religion on TV, where every religion except Christianity is treated with kid gloves, but the episode with the Muslim intern made me squirm. The running gag on the show is that so tight are the Squints that none of the replacement Zacks have quite been able to fit in and are treated like outsiders. The hostility directed at the Muslim was over the top, considering, as has been pointed out, that Brennan is an anthropologist who has always seemed to respect cultural differences while still being essentially atheistic.

Perrotta was annoying, but I think that's symptomatic of what so often goes wrong in shows like this that rely so heavily on UST. TPTB have pained themselves so far into the corner with B/B this season with all the anvilicious romance stuff, that they have to think of increasingly dopey ways to keep them apart. Hence Booth out of commission and enter Perrotta.

The Angela/Roxie thing annoyed. It felt more like, "Look! She's bi! Isn't that wild?!" than being an organic part of her character. And their break-up was lame. Work the storyline or don't, but don't drop it like it never happened.

Sweets is growing on me after seriously hating on him. Wish he'd back off the interrogations. But the thing that honestly bothered me most about this season was in the sci fi con episode when Sweets and Brennan were run off the road and had what should have been a horrific car accident...and both walked away unscathed. Don't know why that bugged, but it did.

As far the crossovers and the Brennan asking Booth to be her Baby Daddy eps or whatever, I'll reserve judgment. But with the way the season has been going, I admit I'm dubious.

April 4, 2009 1:27 PM
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Thank you, first of all, for your comments to 'ridiculous article.' I am baffled by those who respond in such a rude and aggressive manner. Slamming someone personally and making nasty assumptions about them is not the way to convince them that you know what you're talking about or that you have anything of substance to say. Sheesh.

As for your own post, Euripidean, I appreciated hearing what you had to say. You made great reference points to the parts of the show that are now missing, aspects we used to see on this show on a regular basis. Especially the connections amongst the team, and how they connect with Booth and with Brennan. And I second this comment of yours: "Now, however, I sense that the priorities for the writers have changed and I don't quite understand why." It really does baffle me, what seems like a 180-degree shift in the approach and priorities of the program. I don't get it, I really don't. I wish I could understand why, because without all those connections between characters I think what's missing now is the heart the show used to have. I wish I knew where that energy went, and how to get the writers and showrunners to see how important it is and to get *them* to want it and write it again.

Anyway, thank you so much for discussing this with us. And because I emphatically agree with your summary of the show, I'm going to repeat it again here. I think it needs to be read and heard by the Bones powers that be:

"I think I would sum up the problem with Bones now by saying that it is no longer subtle, as a whole. The interactions are forced, the comedy slap-stick and the romance schmaltzy. Bring back the glances, the quips and the careful friendships or lose the audience."

Spot-on, Euripidean. Exactly.

April 4, 2009 1:47 PM
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Great points, Nan. I liked reading what you had to say.

I agree with you whole-heartedly about the frustration with the Angela/Roxie story. I saw that break-up between Angela and Roxie coming a mile away, the minute they were talking pets and Roxie seemed less than receptive. Poor Angela. And yet, why am I supposed to care about this break-up when the writers didn't really spend any time on the development of the relationship itself first? We barely saw Roxie. We barely saw them together. We certainly haven't seen Angela grow as a person since starting to date her again.

When they first got together, it felt like it was for shock value purposes only. Ooh, Angela's kissing a girl, Angela's a lesbian now... *gasp* *eye roll* If, after that initial episode, the writers had paid some attention to the actual relationship between them, showing Angela really trying this time (or in contrast, backtracking to former behaviors), then maybe it wouldn't feel like such a waste of character development. That's the problem for me, that they skipped over so much just to move on and get to the stuff they wanted (like Salt in the Wounds' big moment bedroom scene between Hodgins and Angela). It all felt like such a big leap, not to mention a waste of character development potential. In doing it that way, am I supposed to care about the break-up? Because I really couldn't muster up much sympathy at all. They didn't show enough of the actual relationship for me to feel bad about it ending. Also, if Hodgins and Angela do get back together some day, how satisfying can it be when we haven't seen Angela learn something from her relationship with Roxie?

Anyway, like you say, "Work the storyline or don't, but don't drop it like it never happened." It feels like they never even put forth the effort to make it a real story.

Sweets is growing on me, which is something I never thought I'd say, but I do think he's given too many tasks that aren't really a part of his actual job description. It's like they're trying to come up with ways to keep him on the show, instead of giving him his own purpose and character development which will serve the same purpose much more organically. What bugged me most about Sweets' role in that sci-fi convention episode was that once again they treated him like they always do, as a joke and a punch line rather than as an actual character with feelings and purpose for being there. That car accident in "Princess in the Pear" could have been an incredibly frightening moment. The crash itself was startling to me -- I gasped like I haven't gasped since "Two Bodies in the Lab" when Brennan's fridge blew up in front of Booth. But then they started playing the silly music and turned the moment (and Sweets' injuries) into a joke. That disgusted me. Here was a moment where they finally had my undivided attention, and then they diminished the power of it by turning it into a wacky comedy bit. *shaking head, frustrated* If anyone else had been in that car accident with Brennan, it would have been played for the serious thing that it was (at least I'd hope they would, but given the overly comic approach to this season I wonder and worry about that), but because it was Sweets -- a character who's never really been given his own personality, feelings, or purpose -- they somehow thought it was fine to make it funny. It's not like the humor of Booth hurting his back and taking too many pain pills, or Booth seeing sparkly lights and trails when he reacted to the medication in "Man in the Fallout Shelter." From my view, this was a chance for Sweets to be treated like a real character, and the writers blew it.

Seriously. Give the guy his own purpose, use him sporadically like they did with Gordon Gordon Wyatt (the magnificent Stephen Fry), or let him go.

Anyway, that's my thinking about some of the things you discussed. Do you agree, disagree, have other observations? :)

April 4, 2009 2:46 PM
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I don't know whether this should come under a Spoiler Alert or not, but I do know that Stephen has been across the pond filming on Bones fairly recently...

April 4, 2009 4:46 PM
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I was wondering that...obviously I've said I have no problem with this season, like I already said, but others do and I respect thatk, but it seems that a pattern is emerging.

April 4, 2009 4:48 PM
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Hehehe, I think you're right. But definitely a good discussion, it's nice to meet open minded people :)

April 5, 2009 12:12 PM
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Amen sister.

I kind of wonder if aliens abducted everyone's brains... wait that's probably the next storyline. And it's not just hallicinations anymore, now we get hypnotic trips too.. yeehaw!

April 5, 2009 2:11 PM
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Wow thats a lot of comments. Bones needs a sub-forum on TWOP maybe. ^_^

(flamers will always be flamers... i just skipped their comments and moved onto the more interesting ones on both sides of the argument!)

April 8, 2009 4:07 PM
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I read an article once with Kathy Reichs that she thought of the TV bones as being prior in time to the book bones. Since she has a teenager in the books maybe they are trying to reconcile the two character arcs with Brennan having a baby on the show.

April 23, 2009 11:26 PM
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Shoot! I'm still catching up, since I just got into the show through TNT reruns. I've seen the first four episodes of this season and so far it doesn't seem horrible, except the Yanks episode which I thought was the worst one yet. Hopefully by the time I catch up it will have gotten on track again.

About the car, I know Bones does like to drive and had a sports car in season one, but didn't she not know how to use it? I seem to recall Booth telling her to do something and then she did it and crashed the car or something?

I haven't minded Sweets as of yet, because I thought he was the catalyst for some good Bones/Booth growth, but I'm annoyed hearing that they're keeping him more as an interrogation aid to Booth.

One thing I do think they've tried to integrate more as the seasons' progressed is Booth's sense of humor - I think largely because David is such a fun guy, but I'm sorry if this season they have let that take away the gravity of his character and his commitment to his job.

Just my two cents... I'll be keeping a look out to see if you guys sense any improvement by the end of the season. I hope you do!

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AS far as the driving the sportscar and the suggestion that maybe she cant drive a manual, If she has done field work in developing nations like they often say she has she has driven manual vehicles. Ive done archaeological field work in these areas and all the trucks we get are manual.
I was particularly disappointed about bones comments on the muslim intern, one of the fundamental concepts in anthropology is not to judge other cultures and religions with the vaules of other cultures. Even the most 'socially awkward' anthropologist would understand not to be offensive but to be curious like she was about Booths Christianity.

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