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TWoP 10: Main Characters We'd Love to Fire

by Mindy Monez May 1, 2009 6:00 AM
TWoP 10: Main Characters We'd Love to Fire When news broke this week that The Hills would be continuing without its star Lauren Conrad next season, nobody seemed too perturbed by it. Surprising? Not really. Because besides the show not being terribly relevant anymore, the appeal of The Hills has always had less to do with Lauren Conrad herself than it does with the joy of watching little idiots stare at each other in sunny Los Angeles. (And hating Speidi, of course, but these days you can do that from the comfort of the Internet.) So, in honor of The Hills being brave enough to soldier on without LC, it seems only proper that we've come up with 10 suggestions for other shows that might want to follow suit.

1. Ugly Betty's Betty
It's not hard to be outshone by the sparkly supporting characters on Ugly Betty: Marc, Amanda, Wilhelmina, Claire Meade, Gay Justin -- they're all money. Which is great. Problem is, we used to love Betty's endearing pluck and poncho arsenal, but these days we're never half as excited about watching her anymore because she's too damn annoying. And I know it's been said many, many times before, but who has braces for three years? It's not a dealbreaker or anything, but it seems contradictory that such a smart girl wouldn't have picked up one shred of style influence from the glamorous environment she's been in. Don't change her and have her turn into an Amanda clone or anything, but it's unrealistic that Betty would still be as clueless about her presentation today as she was when she started at Mode.

2. Private Practice's Addison
Here's a sad story. Everybody loved Addison on Grey's, when she was actually a strong and intelligent professional, but, since Private Practice is obsessed with being stupid, the spin-off version of her character has devolved into an indecisive, man-crazy idiot. She's like Carrie Bradshaw without the wardrobe, and we really wouldn't mind if the soap killed her off in some melodramatic accident and shifted focus to Naomi and Violet from now on.

3. Grey's Anatomy's Meredith
She's a whiner and a crashing bore, and we've been over the McDreamy relationship drama for about two seasons now, which was the only interesting thing about her to begin with. Have her take a job at another hospital and make it Yang's Anatomy. At least Cristina makes us laugh.

4. 90210's Annie
She was meant to be the Brenda Walsh of the show, but she's turned out to be a goody two-shoes snoozefest who can't act. We actually don't hate her, per se -- there's nothing to hate! She doesn't do anything! -- but we'd much rather spend more time with knocked-up Adriana and slutty Naomi every week instead.

5. Nip/Tuck's Sean
Seriously, he's insufferable. An immature, self-righteous attention whore without the humor and good side his partner Christian has. If anyone on this show deserved a (now turned-around, but still) cancerous death sentence last season it was Sean, not Christian.

6. Rock of Love's Bret Michaels
While we have an inexplicable affection for Bret's universal love and acceptance of skanks of all kinds, this show is really all about the ladies' antics. If Bret and Taya actually work out (they won't), and he goes through with his promise that he's done with the show (he won't), there are plenty of loveable aging rockers to replace him with, and the show would still be just as awesome. Our bid? Sebastian Bach. We've loved him since Gilmore Girls. (Or my personal bid: Buckethead. I'd say it would never happen, but who is VH1 to turn down a KFC product placement in every episode? You never know...)

7. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles' Sarah Connor
Movie Sarah Connor: Awesome. TV Sarah Connor: Sometimes awesome, but usually pretty boring, annoying and naggy. Showrunner Josh Friedman is so in love with the character, but that passion just didn't translate somehow, and we're left groaning during Sarah-centric episodes. Besides, if the show does come back for another season, the finale left everyone but Sarah in the future where the real action is, so can we maybe just bench her for a year and party with John, Derek, Kyle and human Cameron for a while?

8. Damages' Ellen Parsons
We gave her the benefit of the doubt the first season, but Season 2 made it pretty clear that Rose Byrne is out of her acting league on this show. And even if she weren't, we're sick of the character. The Frobisher case is beyond over, Patty's admitted she tried to have her killed -- every compelling loose end in Ellen's storyline has been tied up. We'd love to see a third season centered solely around Patty and Tom Shayes paying off judges and blackmailing hookers for testimony instead of Ellen's David hallucinations and Patty hatred. But that's just us.

9. How I Met Your Mother's Ted
Sure, you'd have to get rid of the entire premise of the show, but we've given up on Ted ever finding anybody, and Barney has given up on him as a wingman (Marshall seems to fill that role nowadays), which leaves Ted with nothing to do but act snobby. It would be a much better show if it was just about Barney, Marshall, Lily and even Robin. Could How I Stinson'd Your Mother be a thing? I mean, besides in our dreams?

10. Celebrity Apprentice's Donald Trump
After way more enraging firings this season than normal (Khloe? T-Boz? Melissa?! All whore pit viper moves, Donald) the Donald has clearly lost his damn mind. Ivanka could run that show from now on and not only would it be less douchey (I really am trying so hard to retire that phrase, I swear), it would also be more lucid.

Other main characters you'd like to retire? Leave them in the comments.

93 Comments

May 1, 2009 8:38 AM
terri
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My daughter had braces for over 3 years. We began to think that the orthodontist was going for some kind of record.

May 1, 2009 8:49 AM
Lotte
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Even worse, in the season two finale we saw Betty with braces in SIXTH GRADE. So, she's had braces for what, thirteen years?
I have to say, I actually am starting to like Betty again in the whole relationship with Matt. She's sweet and human again, instead of just naggy and whiny.

May 1, 2009 8:50 AM
Rachel
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Ted is underrated on HIMYM. Also, the premise is going to get shaky if they go on too long after he does meet The Mother, so I'll assume you're joking about giving up on his finding anyone.

May 1, 2009 8:53 AM
MFD
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Really, no Dwight Schrute on this list?

May 1, 2009 9:46 AM
Temmere
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I like Rose Byrne, but she's clearly a lightweight compared to the rest of the Damages cast. Not least because she looks like a stiff breeze would break her in half. Girl really needs to eat some cheeseburgers.

Plus, I thought the point of the show was seeing her slowly learn to play the manipulation game as well as Patty, but she's pretty much already there. So I have to agree: what's left to do with her?

May 1, 2009 10:10 AM
Tess
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I could not agree with you more about Meredith on Grey's Anatomy (#3). And I'm all for the show being called "Yang's Anatomy." Cristina and Owen are the highlight of the show for me this season.

May 1, 2009 10:17 AM
see
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Wow. The person who writes these hates Meredith Grey and has every time she writes something. It would be nice to have a different writer for this just for a different perspective. Most fans of the show like Meredith!

May 1, 2009 10:18 AM
jrho
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I had braces for 4.5 years and wore a retainer for 4 years after that. My teeth were really messed up to start with though.

That doesn't mean that I wouldn't love to see the show without her because I think it would be more interesting.

May 1, 2009 10:19 AM
Meril
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"who has braces for three years?"

I had braces for six years. unimaginable, I know. It was torturous.

May 1, 2009 10:20 AM
Naomi
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I believe Sebastian Bach is married.

May 1, 2009 10:36 AM
Aludra
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The Hills was relevant at some point?

May 1, 2009 10:37 AM
Lucy
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I only watch Private Practice for Addison. No Addison = No Private Practice. And I'm not alone there.

Violet and Naomi are far wackier and man-crazier than Addison. Are you forgetting Addison has slept with one guy over 2 seasons !! I don't call that man-crazy. Violet was sleeping with two guys on the same day lol.

May 1, 2009 10:55 AM
TQ
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I'm with you regarding Meredith, I love the show but I'll just be glad when they get over the McD/Grey relationship drama. NEXT!

And Betty, don't Mode offer a Dental Plan?

May 1, 2009 11:01 AM
Jenny
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Agree about Ellen on Damages, she really serves no purpose and the ending she got last season seems fair enough. Heh, they could kill her off and have the show focus on Wes' point of view. Don't think anyone would have a problem with that!

May 1, 2009 11:24 AM
Izalika
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replied to comment from MFD

Dwight Schrute is not the main character of The Office, though. At best, I'd say it was Michael, but even then...plus, he helps make the show, so it would take a lot from The Office to remove Dwight Schrute.

May 1, 2009 11:32 AM
Alissa
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"who has braces for three years?"
I've had braces for five years. It'll be six in October. I think the universe just doesn't like me.

And really, 'How I met Your Mother' without Ted? Are you kidding me?

May 1, 2009 11:43 AM
Jerssica
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I don't even watch Ugly Betty, but I do have to defend the braces thing, as I had the misfortune of being in brace from 2nd grade to my sophmore year of high school. There were occasional breaks from them, but for the most part, they were on. It was horrible.

And I love Ted and would sorely miss him if he wasn't on the show.

May 1, 2009 11:46 AM
Annie
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replied to comment from see

I disagree...there's a lot of Meredith-hate on the boards here.

But I have to agree, this is not the list for Mer. I don't like Mer, but I also know that the show isn't much without her. Grey's could really do without the other grey-Lexie.

May 1, 2009 12:00 PM
Anna
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Agree about Meredith. What a whiner. Disagree about Sean, he's a necessary contrast to Christian. Those two need each other too much for the show to work without him. Also they are my OTP.

May 1, 2009 12:07 PM
Mlynnr
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Oh, please. 3 years of braces? Cakewalk and yer getting off easy. Try starting orthodontia and Kindergarten in the same 2 weeks. Had some sort of wire/ appliance in my mouth for 12 years. And yes, it's easier to move the baby teeth into better position than to try and shift the adult ones after they come in. Ugly Betty's might be a gimmick but not completely unrealistic.

That said, they could lose Private Practice entirely and save themselves the trouble. Should have done it in January and spent the money on Pushing Daisies but YMMV.

May 1, 2009 12:25 PM
Robin
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Reaper -- Sam is annoying and whiney. Love Sock and Ben, though. Not sure why the writers are giving the side kicks the better personalities but I watch that show for them and the devil :)

May 1, 2009 12:41 PM
AmyAnne
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How about Survivor with no Probst? Maybe Eliza could take his place so we could watch her facial expressions during Tribal Council every week!

May 1, 2009 1:04 PM
David (Puerto Rico)
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Ivanka runnin The Apprentice?... BRILLIANT! The Khloe firing was downright offensive, T-Boz was a star and class act and yet Joan calling Annie Hitler, Brande's ineptitude, the morn cowboy, the loser biker, etc. Time to givethe better looking Trump a chance.

May 1, 2009 1:16 PM
Jonas
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replied to comment from Rachel

I disagree that Ted's underrated. He's a pompous ass, whose own friends call him a douche. I'd love to see him meet the mother, marry her, and move away, leaving Barney, Robin, Marshall and Lilly to their own sitcom.

May 1, 2009 1:28 PM
Stacy
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replied to comment from terri

I had them for seven.

May 1, 2009 1:40 PM
Stacy
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I don't think Sebastian's wife and 3 kids would be very excited about him being the new Rock of Love. Though I do admit that he is still HOT.

May 1, 2009 1:42 PM
julia
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I love How I Met Your Mother, but it seems so un-focused this year. Like what exactly are they working toward? Each season has a little something going on pushing you to the end (like a wedding or a break up or a hook up.) I mean, if they are leading us to a Robin/Barney thing, I guess that is cool but they should maybe do more than just dedicated one second per episode to Angsty love sick Barney.

Maybe the Hannigan baby thing messed up the shows Mojo. I'm willing to accep that. But I agree in a way, I'm just not invested in what is happening with Ted, where as in previous seasons I was. I was like "oh, Ted and Robin" or "Oh, let's see how Ted doesn't end up married to the girl from scrubs" (I'm forgetting her name.

I also agree with Private Practice. Well, I really just think Addison should go back to Greys. Mainly b/c she made Greys awesome, but the show isn't anything without her, and they obviously a terrible idea for her to have her own show.

May 1, 2009 1:47 PM
Rachel
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I had braces for 4 years. But as an 11-15 year old. I'm pretty sure adult me would have demanded their removal after 2 years.

And Addison should head back to Seattle.

May 1, 2009 2:09 PM
Justin
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I love this site, and have never commented on one thing, but it's really stupid to say something like "who has braces for three years?" There's actually a shitload of people who do. Go do some research.

For some reason this comment really bothers me. It just sounds so dumb. It almost dismisses the rest of the article.

May 1, 2009 2:14 PM
SebastianB
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Personally, I'm up for the removal of Grey's Anatomy and Private Practice period.

May 1, 2009 2:27 PM
Joel
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Lost without Jack and Kate, please?

May 1, 2009 2:39 PM
chuckerwills
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HELLOOOOOO
Sebastian Bach is married with 2 or 3 kids (Happily and for a long time)

May 1, 2009 3:11 PM
bk109
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replied to comment from SebastianB

Oh,no,only if they first take an assault rifle and empty it into that annoying Izzie,then set her on fire and then remove all traces of her from the "universe" ... Only then they can pronounce it D_E_A_D

May 1, 2009 3:22 PM
Bree
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Six women to four men. Even when male characters generally outnumber female characters on tv.

I should be surprised TWoP managed to keep it's raging misogyny in check, I guess to attempt an equal-looking list.

May 1, 2009 3:54 PM
dj
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replied to comment from Bree

That's true. But I think it has more to do with Female characters on TV not really being written to a very high standard. That has long been a problem. Women on TV tend to be extreme... one way or another. (Either a man eating man hater, or a boy crazy annoying whiner.)Even if you take a strong female character like Veronica Mars, Buffy (maybe), Starbuck (or Roslin or Six) they seem to be loved and hated for the exact same reasons.

I think male writers do good with female characters to a certain degree, then they just kinda get extreme somewhere along the way or they lose that original spark. That is why I liked Loreli, Rory and Emily from Gilmore Girls so much. Because it was three different believable female characters, written mostly from a female POV (Amy Sherman-Palladino) and they all had strenghts and weakness and it seemed pretty consistant throughout the seasons (until she left the last season...which I pretend doesn't actualy exist)

May 1, 2009 4:33 PM
COCO
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Without the Sean/Christian dynamic there is no Nip/Tuck. End of story.

And seriously who is "WE"? You always use "WE" when writing this articles. Are you actually polling this stuff? Do you guys meet and decide this stuff? or are we just feeling like Royalty or the head of the TWOP group think?

May 1, 2009 4:44 PM
Kristi
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replied to comment from Bree

This is just someone's opinion about TV shows. Shees.

The problem I have with Sean is that he repeats the same bad behavior over and over but never learns from it, and never gives Christian any credit when he does something good, but is ready to 100% believe when he's done something really bad. Where's all this "standing by your man" y'all talk about?

May 1, 2009 5:02 PM
Jessica
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Oh come on. The "raging misogyny" has nothing to do with TWOP and everything to do with how generically obnoxious most fictional female characters are.

And yeah. Jack and Kate from Lost. Please.

May 1, 2009 5:11 PM
Mandy
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Jack and Kate from LOST. Death by polar bear and DHARMA shark respectively.

May 1, 2009 5:14 PM
rory
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I would fire Jack from Without A Trace. He ruined that show for me.

May 1, 2009 5:42 PM
Eva
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Agree with everyone except for Addison. I love her character. In PrP she's trying to find her footing after the demise of her marriage so its understandable that she's not the AWESOMENESS that she was in Grey's. Actually like you said transfer Meredith to a different hospital and bring back Addison to Grey's.

May 1, 2009 6:08 PM
meddog
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replied to comment from rory

Yes, Rory! Jack Malone is uninteresting and an ineffective agent, and he seems to be the center of the show.

May 1, 2009 6:12 PM
Diego
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Yes, Betty needs to change her style. In the original telenovela Betty did get a makeover. She kept her braces (telenovelas have endings) but the makeover was a key to the story line... and frankly people tuned in to see the transformation. I'm well past waiting for Betty to change.

May 1, 2009 6:28 PM
Wooze
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I concur with Jack and Kate from Lost. It's an ensemble show, but their arcs are central ... and I loath them.

Can I nominate Echo from Dollhouse? I'm intrigued by every other character--even the other dolls--but she leaves me utterly cold. Of course, I may be the only one watching this show ...

May 1, 2009 6:43 PM
Eric
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Not that it's really an issue with such low ratings, but I'll take Claire McCrae (Sarah Paulson) out from the new "Cupid". Although Ted is wearing a bit thin on "How I Met Your Mother" these days... maybe he eventually gets likable again, since he supposedly does find a mother for those two kids and all.

May 1, 2009 6:47 PM
Natalie
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I think putting Betty in the same category as reality TV attention whores is just cruel, not to mention pointless. I like Betty!

May 1, 2009 8:07 PM
Rigoberta
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Sebastian Bach existed loooong before Gilmore Girls and was always awesome...this person needs to stop blogging. She always gets her facts wrong!

May 1, 2009 8:57 PM
hui
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Rose Byrne is a wonderful actress, but I agree that Damages has not yet allowed her to fully expose her abilities. I hope the third season will be better.

May 1, 2009 9:20 PM
Wanda
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I agree with the writer about Betty. Seriously,she's never heard of Invisilign? How about the fact that she has access to Christina and the fashion closet and still looks like she fell off the immigrant bus from hell!

May 1, 2009 9:30 PM
Melissa
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Word on getting rid of Annie! I don't watch any of the other shows.

May 1, 2009 9:31 PM
Melissa
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Also, I only had braces for a year and a few months. It never would have occurred to me that a person would have them for longer than that. I certainly never knew that person and everyone at my school had braces at some point.

May 1, 2009 9:54 PM
Carrie
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What has always bugged me about Betty is that we are expected to see her dismal fashion sense and inability to style her hair as a sign of moral superiority (that, and her constant, big "uninhibited" smiles). And her naivete, after three years in the magazine business about what it takes to get to get ahead makes her seem downright stupid at times. I originally liked this character a lot, but the writer's refusal to let her grow is making her seem pretty static.

May 1, 2009 10:30 PM
Dana
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Vanessa from Gossip Girl. PLEASE.

May 1, 2009 10:30 PM
Dawn
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I agree that movie Sarah Connor was (and is) awesome. Thanks for remembering! This Sarah Connor on TV is...well, she's alright but she's not Linda Hamilton. I wish she was.

May 1, 2009 10:34 PM
sjy
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replied to comment from Mlynnr

It may very well be "easier" to move baby teeth than adult teeth, but it also takes much, MUCH longer to do so, if for no other reason than the fact that the poor kid has to wear them throughout the loss of their baby teeth.

The shame of it is that it really doesn't take that long to move adult teeth, especially in adolescents.

Unless her mouth originally resembled a shark's, NO WAY should Betty (as an adult) STILL have them on after three years.

May 1, 2009 10:47 PM
T.J.
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I had a headgear starting in 4th or 5th grade. Then a retainer. Then braces from 9th - 11th grade, part of that time with ANOTHER headgear, then another retainer that I still have to wear occasionally.

So I had braces and/or other appliances for a freakishly long time.

May 1, 2009 10:53 PM
Crystal
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13 should have been the one to commit suicide on House. There's a pretty large consensus that she's not liked.

Also, Mohinder on Heroes can go too. His story stopped being interesting long ago.

May 1, 2009 10:54 PM
Laura
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I was born with braces.

Also, I love HIMYM and never considered how much better it could be without Ted. Is that an option? Could that happen? I kind of love the idea.

May 1, 2009 10:56 PM
Loz
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replied to comment from MFD

Jack Bauer on 24 and Jack on Lost. Both are annoying jackasses. I actually love Ted on HIMYM, yeah he's a douche, but its in a good way. He's a lovable douche! And Dwight isn't really the title character. That would probably be Michael. And I'm all for that. His annoyingness has never been funny to me.

May 1, 2009 10:59 PM
Crystal
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Sorry...these aren't MAIN characters.

May 1, 2009 11:31 PM
Jennifer
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Yet another person who had braces for several years. In my case it was six.

May 2, 2009 12:41 AM
Ash
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God, I've been wanting Meredith off Grey's since season 2. After Burke left I stopped watching Grey's until this season. And the whole McDreamy thing was over once McSteamy arrived. This show has been going down the drain for awhile now. Maybe once the whiny one and used-to-be-McDreamy get married, there'll be more focus on Yang, Karev and McSteamy's storylines.

May 2, 2009 1:20 AM
Ellen M
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replied to comment from rory

You are so right. I haven't watched this show in years because Jack is nothing more than a narcissistic thug. The only thing he is good at is using women and beating up suspects. And now that he's involved with Sam? Yeccch.

I can tolerate Meredith. She acts pretty much like someone with her upbringing and dysfunction would. Bailey, Cristina, Owen, and Karev have real adult problems that they are struggling with and generally behave like grown ups. I really don't like the Mc's, with their need to be involved with much younger women who they can patronize and who make them feel more godlike.

People do have braces for years and years. But have you ever noticed that Betty's teeth seem to be perfect? And in my experience, upwardly mobile people from disadvantaged backgrounds are experts at fitting in, not standing out.

May 2, 2009 5:56 AM
Dale
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Aw, but I love Ted. I'd miss Pretentious College Ted and Sappy In Love Ted and Geeky Star Wars Ted if he went. Not to mention he makes such a good punching bag for Barney's jokey insults.

But certainly Jack and Kate from LOST should go. Good grief, they're the only characters on that show I don't like, so of course they're the main ones.

May 2, 2009 7:28 AM
Maya
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13 from House. She's completely ruined the last two seasons. Foreman should go along with her.

May 2, 2009 8:39 AM
Lara
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I agree about everything, but Ted, really?? I mean, as much as I love Barney, Marshall, Lily and Robin more than Ted, he's still an awesome character! Way, WAY more awesome than any of the other ones on this list! I mean... haaave you met drunk!Ted? Or pretentious!Ted? Or college!Ted? Or geeky!Ted? Or douchy!Ted? Or I-need-to-get-married-and-have-kids-yesterday-yet-I-still-manage-to-be-adorable-and-funny!Ted? Cuz that guy's awesome!

May 2, 2009 11:31 AM
Chris
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replied to comment from Jerssica

I totally agree with several responses of Ted being awesome. Plus, if you remove Ted you have to consider a couple of things that would almost necessarily need to change about the show. The first is that we would also lose future Ted. The second would be that the BRomance would have to come to an end, since I don't think any sitcom of this nature has ever had or could exist with a cast that had no single people. For Barney to become the lead, he would have to go back to full-time womanizer. That would destroy all the set-up for him being a closet romantic who doesn't want to stay in a relationship to protect himself from another heartbreak.

May 2, 2009 2:51 PM
Ben
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Even though they've only had a handful of Parks & Recreation episodes, they need to get rid of the intern character. She's a bad combination of unlikable role and terrible actress, and having her appear alongside major talents like Amy Poehler and Aziz Ansari just makes that more obvious. I hope she does not return for the 2nd, first full, season.
And I'm with the pro-Ted crowd; he's a character with a lot to do, played by a good actor.

May 2, 2009 3:41 PM
Helmut
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My brother actually had braces for 6 years. So, 3 years doesn't seem wholly unrealistic to me. Of course, he had a very unusual case so they are probably asking you to suspend a little too much disbelief.

As for Meredith, she has always been my least favorite character. Recently, however, I have been finding her a little more tolerable, but maybe it's more apathy than anything. I'm not really sure, but I no longer wish for her character to die every episode. If we can dream big, though, let's have Meredith die in some tragic way and bring Addison back to Seattle Grace and it can be Addison's Anatomy. I'd watch that, so long as they brought back pre-Private Practice Addison. :)

May 2, 2009 6:23 PM
Korilian
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'but it's unrealistic that Betty would still be as clueless about her presentation today as she was when she started at Mode.'

I disagree. Betty has LOADS of style. It might not be a conventional style, but she's extremely consistent in it and it looks like there's actually a lot of effort going into those outfits. I bet she's at least putting as much effort into her appearance as her fashion following sidekicks (also, the braces are coming out)

May 2, 2009 7:05 PM
Monica
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Meredith is the main character on Grey's? I thought it was Izzie. They need to get rid of Izzie.

May 2, 2009 10:02 PM
Sarah
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Umm, my sister had braces for about 5 and a half years. She finally got them off about two weeks ago. It was about time.

May 3, 2009 12:16 AM
Sandy
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Cuddy. She has become one-note and that note is pathetic.

May 3, 2009 2:08 AM
Reena
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I had a retainer from second through seventh grade. I had braces and headgear from seventh grade to eleventh grade, and had to fight to have them taken off. People have braces for longer than 3 years, and the comment really bothers me, as well.

Also, I would not watch The Hills without Lauren. She is the only likeable person on the show, and who wants to watch complete jerks be jerky to eachother.

May 3, 2009 4:40 AM
Rebecca
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Um, Meredith is the most realistic and fully realized person on Grey's Anatomy; Ellen Pompeo is an irrefutably phenomenal actress; and we all know that if this was a male character, we'd just be calling him a "complicated antihero" instead of attributing cliched female characteristics to her like whiny and annoying (House, anyone? Whose character, by the way, I also enjoy). Anyone who wants her killed off just has residual hatred for her from the first two or so seasons, and hasn't been watching this season (or the entire series, really) very closely. She's obviously matured a lot and has dealt with a lot of Derek's crap in a very capable and poised manner. Ellen Pompeo has managed to NEVER be corny and cheesy no matter what lines she's given, which is quite a feat for a show like Grey's Anatomy...she's also always delivered more nuance even in simple reaction shots than most actors can muster in their entire careers.
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May 3, 2009 5:20 AM
Pissed Off
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So, I guess it's official: you guys at TWOP are bullying, shallow, nasty assholes. You and you're site can go right to hell. God, dickfaces.

May 3, 2009 7:14 AM
Heather
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It'a true about Betty. I'm the same build as her and don't care about fashion, but I know enough to buy a couple of simple black dresses or something if I started working there.

May 3, 2009 7:38 AM
Andrew
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Rose Byrne is acting alongside Glenn Close, Ted Danson, William Hurt, Marcia Gay Harden, Zeljko Ivanek and John Doman...of course she isn't really the most interesting part of the show. But they should definately kill off Katie and do more with Ellen's character, other than revenge against frobisher.

May 3, 2009 9:48 AM
Maria
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Sarah Connor has her moments, but most of the time I just wish she would get out of the way so that I could watch John, Cameron and Derek be awesome.

And that is not human Cameron in the end of BtR, it's Allison, who isn't Cameron at all.

May 3, 2009 4:07 PM
Barb
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A resounding YES to getting Annie off of 90210 - it would have very little impact on any of the current story lines and would make the show marginally less annoying.

I'd also keep watching Top Model without Tyra, and probably enjoy it more without her cringe-worthy singing and dancing, not to mention her advice which is self-serving at best. I'm embarrassed for her on a regular basis. Jay Manuel hosts the Canadian version of Top Model and is actually good at it, and the drama of the girls in the house and photo shoots is just as strong as the American version.

Other than that, I agree about Meredith. Having not watched the first 2 seasons of Grey's and come to the show late, I find it hard to see where the Mer love comes from. She just seems like a one-note character who either doesn't grow at all, or who learns self awareness at a snail's pace. Grow up already!

Ted, on the other hand, should stay. Even if he's not the most likeable character on HIMYM, he sets up a lot of the situations for the others to react to and that's what makes it worth watching.

Finally, re: the braces thing ... who cares? Honestly.

May 3, 2009 5:14 PM
Claire
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Am I the only one who can't stand Cameron on House? If I see another minute of her moral-superiority whining, I'll probably, like, explode.

I like Chase better than Cameron, and that's saying something.

May 3, 2009 11:51 PM
Carrie J.
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Wow. I would think that TWOP readers would be smarter than this. You don't get the Betty character at all! The whole point of the show is that's she's happy being who she is. She likes her own style. And she's successful and happy despite (or because of) not trying to be like everyone else.
And, can we stop with the braces... we get it; they can be on for years.

May 4, 2009 12:00 AM
Sinkwriter72
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I like Ted. Not when he's being super-pretentious (although sometimes it's funny) or douchey (although I love that his friends are such good friends that they call him on it whenever he does behave that way), but the thing about Ted is ... he's necessary because he grounds all the other characters.

It's like if you took Will & Grace away, leaving Jack & Karen. Yes, Jack and Karen are hysterically funny, but by themselves their childish antics might (and sometimes did) get old fast. You need other characters for them to play off of, in the way Ted sets up the joke and Barney knocks it out of the park.

And as others have pointed out, sometimes Ted is wonderfully funny on his own. Two of my favorite HIMYM episodes of all time center on Ted's character: the Pineapple Incident (come on, when drunk Ted climbs up on that table and starts singing along with the jukebox, I laugh every time) and the Third Wheel (his look of wonder as he enters the bedroom where those girls are waiting for him is a fascinating moment to behold and Josh played it just beautifully).

I've noticed the difference with Lily being gone (as Alyson Hannigan took leave to have her baby), and I know I'd mourn the empty space left if Ted weren't there, as well.

May 4, 2009 2:24 AM
Liliana
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replied to comment from Carrie J.

The problem is, in Betty's line of work it is important to be able to present yourself in a stylish, poised way. Saying "I love myself even if I'm a style-challenged klutz" doesn't cut it in the world of fashion journalism. It's becoming harder and harder to suspend disbelief that the assistant of the editor-in-chief of a major fashion magazine would present herself in such a hideous manner. Self love is good of course, but it can make a person a person stagnant and smug if she never, ever questions her choices.

May 4, 2009 2:44 AM
GilmoreGirl
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Seriously, they either need to kill Annie off or send her to London post haste. The show went very wrong in trying to recast the original characters. I get that there are certain people who are universal (I did after all go to high school) but lets get into who the characters really are and let them develop as people the way the original one did. I would be very happy for Annie to turn out to be the Andrea of the group and let Silver and Adriana take the Kelly/Brenda roles to town. Naomi needs to move out of the zip code, I mean i get that she's supposed to do the slut turned girlfriend role, but come on! I want more Navid/Dixon/Ozzie surfing and hanging out, more Silver/ Adriana/ Annie time in whic Silver and Adriana remond Annie what real problems are. And bring back Rhonda!!!!

May 4, 2009 10:06 AM
charligrey
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I wish for Yang's Anatomy... Meredith is so annoying. I was over her after the pilot.

And it seems to me that I've had braces for six years since I got them put on when the fifth Harry Potter book came out. I also had braces when I was in the fourth grade... This is what happpens when your adult teeth come in when you still have your baby teeth...

May 5, 2009 2:12 PM
expletive
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TWOP is all about making snarky comments about TV shows and their (often annoying) characters, main or otherwise. If you're looking for squeeing fangirlism, go somplace else. After all, this site is called Television WITHOUT Pity, not Television OMG Meredith Grey is my BFF!!!111!!!.

May 5, 2009 2:20 PM
expletive
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Crap. Make that someplace, not somplace.

I iz gud spellir.

May 5, 2009 11:52 PM
patsy
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Hey, How right you are, Addison is ridiculous.......who dresses like that as an MD?

July 7, 2009 11:33 PM
Annette
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Haha this is too funny, but the list is very much on point, except Meredith and Ted, they are great, I loathe the Annie character, she cannot act and she's annoying, I couldn't watch damages because of the Ellen character, she pissed me off and is out of her league, another character is Vanessa from gossip girl, she needs to vanish

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