This episode was so heartbreaking. It was terrible seeing Jon so cavalier the whole time while Kate seemed like she was about to break down any moment. I always thought Kate was very controlling, but Jon stood passively by. I cannot believe they aren't even trying marriage counseling. It seems like Jon is more interested in spending their new wealth on taking ski trips with his friends than trying to repair his marriage.

TLC needs to pull the plug. Divorce is always traumatic (and having parents separate right as you start kindergarten is going to be tough-just starting Kindergarten is a major change), but to have it be televised and all that extra stress is crossing the line, IMO.

I got the same vibe, Lisa. I had, and have, had a hard time believing that he was genuinely "in it for the kids." Does it suck that he has no personal life because of the show, probably, you aren't going to be Joe Single now.

Stop celebrating mediocrity!!!!! Since when having kids like a bunny makes you be a hero a celebrity? Mi grandma had 12 kids, no nanny, no microwave, no TV o educational videos...These people makes money and fame getting pregnant and encouraging others as the Octomom to do better so she can be on TV and have peolple following this non sense shows. If we are making these Realities Shows big now, imagine the quality of TV your kids will watch

Those poor kids. They now have to watch thier family break up forever in reruns. Nice. I can tell that Jon and Kate do everything for the kids. Hopefully, they put money aside for therapy.

I also thought she seemed less than sincere and also unwilling to take responsibility. She made many passive/aggressive digs at him, and went out of her way to make everything his fault - whether it be the crooked houses' placement or the decision to separate. I did come away thinking they are both sincerely unhappy and both genuinely love those kids. And honestly, I have no problem with a 32 year old man saying that for the first time he was asserting himself and realizing there is nothing wrong with that. Read their website some time - she's very clear that he was NOT ready for kids the first time and she pushed the issue. He didn't want another child, and yet they were very close to an adoption before it fell through. And then he was against trying for another child, and she went ahead with it. I'm in no way saying that absolves him of responsibility, rather that in her rush to become a mother he sort of got lost in the shuffle. The blame for that rests on them both, but at least he seems set on rectifying it while she seemed more interested in smiling on the outside, crying on the inside and letting that be what their marriage was made of.

WOW! At first I really liked Kate, then I hated her, and after last night I really feel bad for her. She looked so sad and really unhappy about the pending dissolution of her marriage...and Jon seems so...so... NOT! He even said the word excited...he was choosing his words very carefully - not to say he loves Kate or will miss her...like perhaps he knows his GF is watching and doesnt want to say anything to upset her??? Hmmmm I bet that in a month or so...DeAnna will either be pregnant or they will "confess" their love for one another... as for Kate I hope she doesnt end up have a nervous breakdown or in jail because she cant stay away from her kids...this has Brittney and K-Fed all over it!!! Or maybe Denise and Charlie! I hope the kids make it thru okay...Did anyone else notice how much Mady and Cara "act" in front of the camera???

THANK YOU ALI
you took the words out of my mouth.

I didn't mind Jon not breaking down over the dissolution of their marriage nor did I think it was indicative on how he feels about his children.

I felt like Kate was emotionally/verbally abusive to Jon and he's probably relieved that he doesn't have to be under her thumb anymore. When I got my divorce from my abusive ex I was happy as a clam for that reason.

Also, if the marriage has been over for a while there might not be any 'weepy' reactions.

But then, I don't believe anything that comes out of Kate's mouth as she has lied on numerous occasions.

I wish they'd cancel the show - but that doesn't seem to happen, so I hope the adults will be happier now that they don't have to be together and that the change will actually be better for the children.

Thank you for posting that information! I think Kate gets off easy because she is the woman, but she has obviously pulled Jon into situations he wasn't comfortable with. I always predicted he'd leave her but I thought it would be when the kids were older.

I was one of the people hoping they were going to announce the end of the show so they could work on their marriage. Silly me.

The marriage could be saved IF both parents were willing to work on it. Unfortunately, Jon is "excited" about his single future, which is shameful and doesn't bode well for the marriage, or the children.

The most appalling part was both parents defending the show. "Thank God we have the show." Can they be so blind? Stop the show and tend to your family. No one wants to watch this depressing train wreck anyway.

Look, they're not going to end the show, and as we saw last night, they're not going to end the show NO MATTER what, so you might as well quite wishing they would. It's their only income now, and I'm sure they have contractual obligations with Bravo.

He may be conducting himself poorly, but I'm still with Jon on this. Even while they were still happy, anyone who watched the earlier shows could see this coming for years. He never wanted any of this, not the sextuplets, not the show. He let Kate dominate him, and yes, he should have said something, but just because someone lets you be horrible, doesn't mean Kate isn't guilty of being horrible. And this, "she's got 8 small kids, for God's sake!" justification of her behavior doesn't fly. She's unpleasant. Period. No excuses.

Agree with you on the Zombie thing.
I will say this, I just started watching this show about a season ago, so right before all of this happened. I did enjoy the dynamic between Jon and Kate. It was WAY dysfunctional how they acted toward each other. Her oppressive and abusive (mainly verbally but a little physically) nature and him being annoyingly passive (aggressive). I don't know, my parents where in the social science field and I took a lot of that in school, to me it was like watching some case study in that particular kind of dysfunctional relationship. (again BEFORE all of this went down, I enjoyed the show for that exact reason...they dysfunction. I loved it)

The kids running around is cute or whatever but just Jon being like "yeah whatever the boys gave each other black eyes I made them use the bathroom outside" and Kate being all "OMFG!" and him being all "meh" was the best thing about the show. Them not being together and interviewing in their polar opposite styles TOGETHER is why I'm going to stop watching the show. I mean watching people being dysfunctional is very entertaining... them not balancing each other out in the interview portion makes it mostly (VERY) intolerable.

Kate spends all of her air time talking about what a great mom she is and how much her children and her family mean to her. My mom always said to be wary of people who need to tell you how great they are. If they are so wonderful, you will their character shine through and they won't have to advertise it.

Over the years, Jon's interactions with the children have been the most loving and genuine, not Kate's. I am not saying she doesn't love her kids (how could you not they are adorable) but definitely doesn't put them first. Plus, she is constantly lying about not having any help. She just doesn't have much credibility with me. Jon definitely puts his foot in his mouth and has not had the best judgment lately, but I never feel like he is trying to convince me that he is the best dad ever. But his kids show him love, and that let's me know that he treats them well. And that is all that matters.

It's great that they're pulling shows, but they're going to set up a new schedule to deal with the transition... which means they're going to still continue with the show and the voyeurs will get to watch the poor kids deal with the whole separation/divorce.

I know a lot of people think they should just end the show but the people behind the show may be the only stable thing these kids have right now. The kids talk about the camera guys like they are their friends and I think to some extent that's true (particularly guys like Steve who has been with the show for a very long time). The kids don't know their on tv they just think their friend Steve comes to play with them and bring his camera along. I suspect that given the tension with the extended family (and the tendency of relatives to take sides in things like this) quitting the show might just be dealing these kids another loss right now.

Phaedra, I totally agree with your point that both parties need to commit to saving the relationship in order to save it. But do you honestly think Kate was willing to work on things? She doesn't want to save her marriage, she wants to save face. Which is probably why she granted an interview to People magazine in which she belittled her husband and blamed him for both their failings. Things that should have been discussed privately, discussed with her mate, she preferred to air in a tell-all article for the purposes of gaining favor for her "side of the story." Kate's pride, stubbornness, and complete lack of self awareness seem to be as much to blame for this donnybrook as anything. Neither Jon nor Kate appear willing, or even capable, of looking at the bigger picture. Sad. What selfish people will do to get the kids they feel they're entitled to (Kate), and then what they subject the kids to once they have them (both Jon and Kate).

I think you hit the nail on that one. It's indicative of her behavior a lot of the time, an example of which we saw last night. How many people did she tell she was going to make changes to the crooked house location before she bothered to tell Jon? At least one crew member and one of the assemblers. And regardless of why (Jon blowing up) she decided to go about it that way, she in essence undermined any authority he had in something he clearly had planned out in advance. Her reasoning: because she has the ultimate say in what is best for her children. And really, doesn't that say it all?

While I fully think the show should end, I don't think it should end yet. The film crew has been a part of those kids lives for as long as they can remember. To take away those people, who have become like family to them, while they're going through their parents separation would be even more cruel. They need as much stability in their lives as they can get right now.

I think we've probably all been in a relationship that started out all sunshine and puppy dogs and then one day you realize you don't ever want to look at that person's fug face ever again and every little thing about them annoys the hell out of you. Come on, we've all been there.

Was it just me that caught the part of the kids playing neighbors/marriage in the houses last night? That made me so sad.

Well, I never really watched this show, and now I'm really glad I never wasted my time. Apparently the last two years of the show have been pretty much complete fiction. AP is reporting that Kate's divorce papers say that she and Jon have been living "separate and apart" for at least two years.

Of course they will keep the show going. They have been making millions exploiting those kids for years so why stop now? Think of all the free stuff they can get from companies when we see each parent trying to buy the kids affection.

But seriously though in response to the article, I don't think Kate will have too much problem being away from the kids. I mean she left them during book tours and speaking appearances.

Pretty hypocritical that you talk about it now and you shut down the board for less. Way to make judgement calls....

I think TLC would probably be able to get out of the contract if they wanted to, given that J&K + 8 is a show about parents raising 8 children, and very obviously the nature of the family has changed. If Jon really hasn't lived there for 2 years, their "reality" show hasn't reflected reality even in the distorted way that's typical of such shows.

They replayed the show again tonight :(

I was doomed to watched it to see what I wanted to refer to. The kids said: Let's play wedding. And one said I'll be Kate. One of them said I don't want to marry you!

So do you think TLC left this in on purpose or not? I do.

Why didn't Kate take a moment to wash her feet for gosh sakes???? Ugh!

Uh, because Kate has been doing lecture tours and selling books based on having a stable, wonderful Christian family-while apparently living a lie for 2 years?

Also interesting that at least one comment on the nature of reality shows as it relates to the events in this one has been deleted here. No foul language, no reason for it to be deleted but it's gone. Nice.

Keep it cmonig, writers, this is good stuff.