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Torrie, Lou and John Salley Discuss Returning to Civilization, Hating Beans As you know, I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here is finally over, and though we didn't like it very much, it was nice that Lou Diamond Phillips won, and that everyone can go back to living in houses and not having to submit to getting tarantulas poured on their heads just to get a burrito for dinner. It's also nice that it's not on anymore, because it was very boring. Anyway, you know the drill here -- conference call, Lou Diamond Phillips, Torrie Wilson, John Salley, yada, yada, yada...

What was one of the scariest jungle tasks for you?
John Salley: Walking to the bathroom.
Torrie Wilson: For me it was the height -- the high wire. I knew I was a little afraid of heights, but once I got up there I started breathing heavy and crying and I didn't know if I could do it. And thankfully my buddy, John Salley, really calmed me down and, you know, told me to focus. If it wasn't for him, I would have tried it but, you know, who knows what would have happened.

Torrie, have you always kind of held your own against the guys, even as a kid?
TW:Definitely. I grew up with three brothers that constantly beat me up and put my head in toilets. So, you know, that definitely started me off well. Working with men in the pro wrestling industry kept me strong.

John, did you come up with some like serious specialties to make with rice and beans?
JS: The first thing my wife said is, "What kind of beans do you want me to get?" And she laughed for five minutes. If I see a bean in the house for the next week, we're going to have an argument. We're not going to argue over who scratched the car. We're not going to argue over, "Why did you cut my daughter's hair?" We're going to argue over if I see a black bean -- if I see one black bean. I don't want to see a black bean for a week. I can see it after a week, but not for one week. So you can give me a red bean, a kidney bean, a brown bean, a white bean, do not bring any black beans into that house for a week.

Lou, what was your take on the Speidi situation?
Lou Diamond Phillips: Well, the thing is that we kind of figured out early on, you know, we were not in control of this game. And the producers had the right to pretty much do anything to it that they wanted, we signed a contract, you know? So it was nice that they let us pretend that we were a Democracy.

But the thing about that Heidi and Spencer thing for me, all I knew about them -- I'd never seen the show. My wife, Yvonne, reads all of those magazines. So I was familiar with them. And the impression I got was, "Wow, these kids know how to work the media. They know how to keep their faces out there." I'm not exactly sure what they're famous for but they are on, 24/7. And they were so in our faces that it was like a blast of hot air. I just had to take a step back and kind of assess the situation.

And what I was really happy about was, you know, Spencer was there just trying to make a statement and get his antics on camera. But when they came back in knowing that none of us really wanted them there, they came back contrite and they came back a little more human.

And I can say that I like them now, you know? I was able -- and John helped me to do this. He said, "The kid's a genius. He's working it like nobody else." And I've never seen anybody more aware of their image. Because, I mean, I started with cats like Kiefer and Charlie Sheen and Emilio and, you know, Sean Penn and Downey, Jr. We all used to hang and, you know, they called us the Brat Pack. We've got nothing on those guys.

Torrie, did you think the whole men versus women breakdown was unfair?
TW: Well, yes, I did. It was still individual for all of us but men, I have to admit, have an advantage on strength. It's just a given and for me I just thought as more motivation to try my hardest and be able to compete with them. I knew that they were going to be the ones that I was going to have to beat in the end. And they just really pushed me to be a better competitor. But, you know, it definitely was frustrating at times.
JS: You mean when we lost the sawing to two women? One of them was a housewife and you're telling me it was unfair? It was unfair that guys lost to two women sawing a log. Yeah, okay. And then, you know, cranking a guy, making me fall off a plank when Lou has arms from Gladiators.
TW: That was all technique.
JS: It was so unfair, Torrie.

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