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The Heroes Comic-Con panel has come and gone, and while I do give them props for a very considerate cast showing (pretty much everybody but Ali Larter, Mohinder and Greg Grunberg were there, and Grunny had a good excuse -- it was his son's bar mitzvah!), as well as some hesitantly promising new characters (not that this show needs new characters, but at least these guys don't seem to be in danger of Maya or Adam-level suckage), but, in true Heroes fashion, with the few bright spots came an avalanche of offensively bad story ideas. God, this show. I swear. Let's run down the bad and the good.
The Bad:
We saw in last season's finale that Sylar and Nathan will both be inhabiting Nathan's body for a while; the panel confirmed that and also revealed that Sylar will be sharing a brain with Parkman, left over from the finale's events, but the real ass-kicker was Zachary Quinto's answer to the question, "What was the funnest thing you've gotten to do this season?" His answer? "I got to crawl out of a grave." That's right. Not only is Sylar sharing Nathan's body and Parkman's brain, we're also getting a third, physical Sylar. Which just makes me wonder, what the hell is wrong with Tim Kring? Has the audience not made it abundantly clear that we don't want one Sylar, let alone three of him? Honestly, is there a more self-destructive show on television than this one? It's like they're trying to piss off the 12 fans they have left.
And to further exemplify this point, Masi Oka revealed that there will be "a lot, lot more time travel" for Hiro. I mean, my god. The only thing this show is in more urgent need of getting rid of than Sylar is time travel storylines, another thing that was screamed from the rooftops by all four of us who are still watching this mess. And the rest of the particulars of Hiro's storyline are equally thrilling: his illness at the end of last season has been diagnosed as terminal, so, knowing he only has a few months to live, he decides to open a small business with Ando for some reason? This show just continues to be excellent at writing about humans in a real and organic way. Hiro will also be continuously jumping back in time to fix his past mistakes that he's literally listed on a frigging bucket list, like god forbid this show have a forward-looking storyline for once in its stupid life span.
Claire's in college, and as such, will enter into a ridiculously pandering lesbian experimentation storyline.
Parkman's going to embark on a career as a detective of some sort. Eye roll. Parkman's about as competent an investigator as Inspector Clouseau.
Everything seems just criminally HRG-light. It looks like we're going to spend some time on his crumbling marriage, but I think that's all we're gonna get. You know, because we have to spend all that important time with three Sylars, Hiro's time traveling and Claire's girl-on-girl make out sessions.
The Good:
Tim Kring promised that they will be focusing on only two or three characters per episode going forward in order to tell more detailed stories and deliver more in-depth character development. It sounded like he's trying to structure the episodes like Lost does, and I think that's a really good thing. The character writing on this show is shallow and lazy, and I think that's at least partially due to them always having 17 storylines going on at once to attend to. Letting a bunch of characters sit out each episode is a smart move, even if it does mean we'll have to sit through several Mohinder or Parkman-centric episodes next season. Lost is still awesome, even though some episodes used to be all about Kate, you know?
Swoosie Kurtz is coming back! A lot, apparently!
Peter will take a break from being a full-time whiner to go back to being a paramedic. I don't know why, but him as a paramedic doesn't bother me, and I'm glad he'll have something to do with his days.
The new characters are going to be a family of carnival performers, which I actually think sounds pretty cool. And it's a surprisingly logical progression, given the history of "freaks" in human history, albeit a little 19th-century. If genetic mutants existed today, they'd more likely have reality shows that they'd support with tours, but it's Heroes. They're doing their best. Plus carnivals are creepy and wrong, and there's nothing scarier than a carnie.
Speaking of the carnies, three of them were at the panel, and I dug them all. First up was Robert Knepper (T-Bag from Prison Break, who was so pleasant and humble it was like bizarro T-Bag, which weirded me out). He plays Samuel, the "earth mover" (whatever that is) and carnie ringleader. I don't know anything else, but I do know I like the sound of that. Next was Ray Park, who is -- I shit you not -- a ninja carnie knife-thrower with super speed. How can I hate on a ninja carnie knife-thrower with super speed played by Ray Park? I cannot! And thirdly, the lovely Dawn Olivieri, who plays Lydia the tattooed carnie lady and empath who can see the future when her powers team up with Samuel's earth-moving ones. I don't know. She looks kind of Tricia Helfer-y (at least from a distance), and is apparently naked a lot, which I guess will let us see the possibly significant-in-some-way tattoos. Some of that was convoluted, obviously, and will no doubt be annoying, but I can't deny that these three characters have promise.
Your thoughts on the panel and upcoming season? Leave 'em below.
We saw in last season's finale that Sylar and Nathan will both be inhabiting Nathan's body for a while; the panel confirmed that and also revealed that Sylar will be sharing a brain with Parkman, left over from the finale's events, but the real ass-kicker was Zachary Quinto's answer to the question, "What was the funnest thing you've gotten to do this season?" His answer? "I got to crawl out of a grave." That's right. Not only is Sylar sharing Nathan's body and Parkman's brain, we're also getting a third, physical Sylar. Which just makes me wonder, what the hell is wrong with Tim Kring? Has the audience not made it abundantly clear that we don't want one Sylar, let alone three of him? Honestly, is there a more self-destructive show on television than this one? It's like they're trying to piss off the 12 fans they have left.
And to further exemplify this point, Masi Oka revealed that there will be "a lot, lot more time travel" for Hiro. I mean, my god. The only thing this show is in more urgent need of getting rid of than Sylar is time travel storylines, another thing that was screamed from the rooftops by all four of us who are still watching this mess. And the rest of the particulars of Hiro's storyline are equally thrilling: his illness at the end of last season has been diagnosed as terminal, so, knowing he only has a few months to live, he decides to open a small business with Ando for some reason? This show just continues to be excellent at writing about humans in a real and organic way. Hiro will also be continuously jumping back in time to fix his past mistakes that he's literally listed on a frigging bucket list, like god forbid this show have a forward-looking storyline for once in its stupid life span.
Claire's in college, and as such, will enter into a ridiculously pandering lesbian experimentation storyline.
Parkman's going to embark on a career as a detective of some sort. Eye roll. Parkman's about as competent an investigator as Inspector Clouseau.
Everything seems just criminally HRG-light. It looks like we're going to spend some time on his crumbling marriage, but I think that's all we're gonna get. You know, because we have to spend all that important time with three Sylars, Hiro's time traveling and Claire's girl-on-girl make out sessions.
The Good:
Tim Kring promised that they will be focusing on only two or three characters per episode going forward in order to tell more detailed stories and deliver more in-depth character development. It sounded like he's trying to structure the episodes like Lost does, and I think that's a really good thing. The character writing on this show is shallow and lazy, and I think that's at least partially due to them always having 17 storylines going on at once to attend to. Letting a bunch of characters sit out each episode is a smart move, even if it does mean we'll have to sit through several Mohinder or Parkman-centric episodes next season. Lost is still awesome, even though some episodes used to be all about Kate, you know?
Swoosie Kurtz is coming back! A lot, apparently!
Peter will take a break from being a full-time whiner to go back to being a paramedic. I don't know why, but him as a paramedic doesn't bother me, and I'm glad he'll have something to do with his days.
The new characters are going to be a family of carnival performers, which I actually think sounds pretty cool. And it's a surprisingly logical progression, given the history of "freaks" in human history, albeit a little 19th-century. If genetic mutants existed today, they'd more likely have reality shows that they'd support with tours, but it's Heroes. They're doing their best. Plus carnivals are creepy and wrong, and there's nothing scarier than a carnie.
Speaking of the carnies, three of them were at the panel, and I dug them all. First up was Robert Knepper (T-Bag from Prison Break, who was so pleasant and humble it was like bizarro T-Bag, which weirded me out). He plays Samuel, the "earth mover" (whatever that is) and carnie ringleader. I don't know anything else, but I do know I like the sound of that. Next was Ray Park, who is -- I shit you not -- a ninja carnie knife-thrower with super speed. How can I hate on a ninja carnie knife-thrower with super speed played by Ray Park? I cannot! And thirdly, the lovely Dawn Olivieri, who plays Lydia the tattooed carnie lady and empath who can see the future when her powers team up with Samuel's earth-moving ones. I don't know. She looks kind of Tricia Helfer-y (at least from a distance), and is apparently naked a lot, which I guess will let us see the possibly significant-in-some-way tattoos. Some of that was convoluted, obviously, and will no doubt be annoying, but I can't deny that these three characters have promise.
Your thoughts on the panel and upcoming season? Leave 'em below.
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So- 3(!) Sylars, more time travel, AND more Claire examining the contents of her own rectum?
I think the number of fans just fell to 11.
(And that doesn't even begin to address adding a speedster after killing Daphne. I must also humbly disagree about Carnies, who must be extremely well written to avoid trite-itude.)
Just- Meh.
This season doesn't seem as bad as you all seem to think. The 3 Sylar deal isn't so bad. They'll eventually narrow it down to one. And not all of us "12" viewers hate Sylar BTFW!!! He happens to be my fav character. And I for one find it interesting that they have him has a Dr. Nathan Mr. Sylar thing and living/tormenting Parkmans mind.
Now the whole Claire thing is dumb I agree there.
Now the carival and carnies thing is kinda cool and pretty stupid. Like they definitely ran out of ideas, but you gotta admit it's pretty creative for what they have to work with.
And as for Hiro and his time-traveling illness; they are right about him not time-traveling as much in season 3 and if he's gonna die, then a lil bucket list through time is actually perfect!
So Im anticipating this new season.
...and BTW there are more than 12 viewers!!
I can't stand the fact that there will be more than 1 Sylar. Also, I don't think I can sit through a Mohinder-centric episode.
I record it because I can't not watch it & I want to be able to fast forward through the crap. Looks like this season I will have a lot of crap to fast forward. That just bums me out.
I'm confused about the whole Sylar thing. At the end of the season Sylar shapeshifted into Nathan. So how could he be crawling out of a grave to be a 3rd Sylar when the physical Sylar is Nathan already?
I mean...whu?
For some reason I have trudged on with this show. Some kind of warped loyalty I suppose, and I don't even hate the characters most seem to hate, but I don't know... all the Heroes news just seems really really depressing. Especially the stupid-ass Claire storyline. I have hope that somehow Kring can pull the show out of the abyss, but this news doesn't give me much to look forward to.
Mindy Monez, if you dont like it dont watch it. syler is the most liked by all the thousands of heroes fans
Sylar was an interesting villain at first, but he was ridiculously overused last season. I mean, every issue of Superman wasn't about Lex Luthor, every issue of Fantastic Four wasn't about Doctor Doom, and every episode of Heroes shouldn't be about Sylar.
Still, I'm kinda psyched about next season. I mean, you've got Ray Park as a knife-throwing ninja with super-speed. Need I say more?
Mindy Monez, one girls opinion and it's a rubbish one. She obviously doesn't like Syler, well thousand would disagree. And Hiro time travelling is what makes up half of the story. Girl keep your lame ass opinions to yourself.
"if you dont like it dont watch it."
Wayne, I'm not sure what website you think you've stumbled onto, but this is Television Without Pity. We watch a lot of things we don't like here.
"Wayne, I'm not sure what website you think you've stumbled onto, but this is Television Without Pity. We watch a lot of things we don't like here."
That's a sad way to live, you should watch things that you like. You might enjoy it more.
If you don't get it, Wayne, then this isn't the site for you.
Moss-
Hiro's time traveling moving half the stories along is weak story telling. It's lazy.
I wish that all the people who watch this show on autopilot out of habit would spend that time watching something that actually deserves the audience. Torchwood, Supernatural, Harper's Island and Being Human are all shows that I think that Heroes audience would actually like.
There are not three Sylar's there are only two, Nathan turns into Sylar and vice versa (what a weird thing to say) and he's in Parkmans' head, because Matt seems to feel guilty for what he did. Thats what I got from the trailer they showed.
I always hated Claire, now there's some gay thing for her, stupid and lame and then stupid some more.
They did to stop with Hiro's time traveling it messes everything up.
The carnie idea seems sort of interesting
I love Sylar, he is the only reason why I watch anymore, he is the villain but yet so much more, thats why they use him so much, he is really the only original idea that has come from heroes.
The problem with the show is that it doesn't know where its going. Storyline are so unclear and pointless. You review of the panel was really good except for the part where you mentioned it was bad claire is going college and going lezzie. i think thats a great move. she was annoying for the past 2 seasons
There is really only one Sylar in Season 9 - the one that shares Nathan's body. If you watch the trailer again and the cast's answers at Comic Con, you'll find out Nathan did something horrible years ago, and Millie will get him killed and buried. And since Nathan/Sylar really can't die, Nathan transforms back to Sylar and crawls out of the grave.
The Sylar in Matt's head is just that - an imprint left over when Matt tried to get into Sylar's mind. It's Matt's conscience playing tricks on him.