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The ridiculously popular NCIS has officially spun off into SoCal, with, really, a brilliantly guilty pleasure-tastic cast. LL Cool J and Chris O'Donnell are buddy cops who investigate crimes committed against military personnel, and the principal from Kindergarten Cop is their boss. Fair enough. I like all those people, and generally think they're fun to watch running around doing important things, but I feel the same way about Mark Harmon. Doesn't mean I watch NCIS every week.
The thing I don't get about both NCIS: Los Angeles and its predecessor is what is supposed to be appealing about the writing, other than the fact that it's very easy to grasp, particularly while not paying very close attention to the show. I thought the same thing while watching the pilot of this new show that I always do whenever I watch the OG NCIS -- "This is enjoyable, but predictable and formulaic and I should really be devoting my precious TV watching time to something better -- or something overtly awful, like Rock of Love."
Neither show is categorically bad by any means, but it's the mediocrity of them that just isn't exciting. I get the appeal of a show that you can just leave on and absent-mindedly watch, I suppose, and God knows I understand the appeal of Mark Harmon. It's just that you can't expect me to get excited about anything that happened in last night's Los Angeles premiere. Of course the dead officer was just trying to protect his niece, of course the mother of the girl was hiding something, of course her weird dad was the one who kidnapped her, etc, etc. You people are solving a crime, here. On television. There's supposed to be some mystery, or you're just doing it wrong, and anyone who's ever watched any TV whatsoever in their lives before saw every one of these plot developments coming a mile away.
Still, though, very happy to see Chris O'Donnell back, as well as the adorable and very talented husband from Notes from the Underbelly working again. Like the original NCIS, I'll happily watch a few episodes on long plane rides (Virgin America gets USA, or "The NCIS Rerun Network," as some refer to it) after my laptop's battery dies, but every week until the day either I or this franchise dies, I'm still going to be baffled by each show's regular 18 million+ viewers.
Neither show is categorically bad by any means, but it's the mediocrity of them that just isn't exciting. I get the appeal of a show that you can just leave on and absent-mindedly watch, I suppose, and God knows I understand the appeal of Mark Harmon. It's just that you can't expect me to get excited about anything that happened in last night's Los Angeles premiere. Of course the dead officer was just trying to protect his niece, of course the mother of the girl was hiding something, of course her weird dad was the one who kidnapped her, etc, etc. You people are solving a crime, here. On television. There's supposed to be some mystery, or you're just doing it wrong, and anyone who's ever watched any TV whatsoever in their lives before saw every one of these plot developments coming a mile away.
Still, though, very happy to see Chris O'Donnell back, as well as the adorable and very talented husband from Notes from the Underbelly working again. Like the original NCIS, I'll happily watch a few episodes on long plane rides (Virgin America gets USA, or "The NCIS Rerun Network," as some refer to it) after my laptop's battery dies, but every week until the day either I or this franchise dies, I'm still going to be baffled by each show's regular 18 million+ viewers.
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Heaven help me, but I'm DVR'ing it, because I'm 35 and I adore LL Cool J and Chris O'Donnell from when all of us were young.
I don't watch the original NCIS, Awesome Harmon notwithstanding.
I wasn't enamored with the spinoff last night, but it had enough that I kind of liked that it didn't turn me off completely.
And I can understand thinking that the writing isn't the best thing since sliced bread. But I much appreciate fun, fast, action writing to exposition, soapy character writing that might be technically better if one was teaching a class on how to write a television show.
What can I say - it's one of those shows that you either love or ignore. Not a lot of middle ground. But really, can 20 million viewers be wrong? (Don't answer that...). To me, JAG & NCIS have always been much more about the characters than the plots, and I think NCIS:LA will follow suit. And I, for one, don't think that's a bad thing.
I agree completely with your thoughts on NCIS. I watched the episode last night of the original, and I watched a lot of the reruns on USA, and it was enjoyable but nothing special. It's very formulaic, and I guess that's comforting and relaxing to just sit back and watch with occasional relationships between characters thrown in, but it's nothing I'm thrilled about. I don't mind watching it, but can live without it.
This show is terrible. And Methinks this should also be categorized under "I hate procedurals."
No, you don't get it. It's neither a reality show nor a stupid soapfest drama. It's fun. That’s it. It’s meant to be fun, to entertain. There’s no higher message, no moralizing, no patronizing. You watch it to be entertained. And if all you watched of the show was the season premiere last night, of course you don’t get it. There was actually a huge amount of back story involved, so much that a newbie to the show would be lost and confused. The opener would not give you a chance to like the show, because the show is all about the characters, and last night was about the motivations of those characters. You don’t know enough about them to care. And if you haven’t been watching it, you know nothing about what has been driving the show, oh for the past FOUR YEARS! I mean, come on. This show has been on since 2003, multiple story arcs between then and now, and you think that you can watch one episode (a premiere dealing with the aftereffects of the whole last season) and make a judgment about how good it really is? You don’t like it, fine. But do admit that one episode does not make you a good judge about a whole series. And as for formulaic, please tell me what isn’t formulaic on television, movies, music, or books nowadays. At least if NCIS is formulaic, it knows how to work within it and still deliver.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Mine is I love NCIS! I love the stories...I love the characters...Gibbs, Dinozo, Ziva, Magee, Ducky, and Abby...these people are a family and truly love one another. The stories behind the people draw me in every episode, and last night's season premire was no different. I will watch till there is nothing left to watch, which I hope won't happen for a while...but that's just my opinion.
Thank you S. for that comment! You are absolutely right! Nobody should judge a whole series, because he watched one episode! NCIS is all about the characters and I love them all! It's FUN!
I've been an original NCIS fan for years. I love the characters and the way they interrelate, with fun as well as criminal investigations. I've wondered for years why this very popular show didn't merit a TWOP top level forum. I enjoyed NCIS:LA for the same reasons even if they are new characters. Glad to see it in the lineup.
I totally agree with you about cute-as-button hotties O'Donnell and Cambor (from Notes from the Underbelly...a tragically underappreciated show), but I think you're underestimating the draw of NCIS. It's not genius television, but it's crazy satisfying...I like nothing better than waking up on a lazy, rainy Sunday to discover that there's an NCIS marathon on...I think NCIS: LA will be equally enjoyable...(think of these shows as like high-octane Murder She Wrote...I could watch them for hours....)
the problem is people are lazy and will watch predicatable and boring shows and love them...and you have to wonder about the collective intelligence of most people when survivor and big brother are popular
We need pi show like those from the 70s and 80s to come back, like rockford files where he used his wits, charm, crooked friends and contacts to get the job done...reluctantly most of the time - enough with the pseudoscience shows where supermodels where lab coats and carry guns and all seem to go harvard (essentially every drama on CBS)
LL Cool J and Chris O'Donnell have great chemistry, but it was more of the same stuff. Shane Brennan can try, but he's no Donald Bellisario. Full review of the episode on my blog.
http://th3tvobsessed.blogspot.com/2009/09/ncis-los-angeles-more-of-same-quality.html
AymieJoi, that makes sense about the characters. The original NCIS didn't take off until they got rid of that first female agent, who was kind of off-putting.
I'm one who doesn't get it. Tried to like the original (Mark Harmon!), but found it poorly written, especially the dialogue. Tried to watch the pilot last night and fell asleep -- sitting straight up! (not my normal procedure)
I did at least appreciate the way that they kept saying each other's names over and over and over and over.
As someone who knows who le granouille is, and the model of McGee's first car, I can authoritatively say that NCIS is wish fulfillment for authoritarians, and on par with Law and Order as one of the most vapid and morally repellant shows ever produced. (Sorry, Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire.)
This laptop is great. I wish that I could afford to outfit the entire family with one of these little machines.
Casting should be given a hand...because that's the only thing that prompted me to turn this show on. I'm in the age range that most likely loves Chris and LL. The supporting cast is decent. The storylines are decent. There's just nothing exciting about this show. I DVR the series and sometimes I don't watch it for weeks, then I slowly catch up while I'm multitasking other things.
I wouldn't cry if it were cancelled, but I watch it for the most part.
Yawn. I just watched an episode of NCIS LA, and it's basically teenage drama. I like their boss, but in this show she's not at her best. The guy whatever his name is doesn't know who he really is... ooooh so intriguing... so original.... i won't be watching again. i think it appeals to preteen, teen and young adult. That must be why it's so popular. The regular NCIS is another matter. While it's not a fantastic show, it has Mark Harmon, and that's the fantastic part. :-)
Now we know who the sesbnile one is here. Great post!
That's the best asenwr of all time! JMHO
I can’t put my finger on why, but I actually like NCIS LA better than the original. For some reason though this is one of those shows I keep forgetting about, and then, once reminded, I can’t believe I ever could have forgotten about it. Lucky for me, my employer, DISH Network has dishonline(dot)com. It’s this great streaming site with thousands of shows and movies available to watch absolutely free, including NCIS LA. It’s a lifesaver when you miss episodes and is also great to browse, because I’ve found a few shows, (like Athena) that I really liked and probably wouldn’t have even heard of without the service. It’s definitely worth a few minutes to check out, especially considering non-dish customers are free to check out a good deal of the programming too.
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