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Torchwood: The Pros and Cons of a U.S. Remake

Fox is teaming up with Russell T. Davies to work on developing an Americanized version of the popular British show Torchwood. For those unfamiliar with it, it's a sci-fi series that involves a small team of crime fighters who deal primarily with the otherworldly. As a fan of the show, my initial reaction to the Fox news was of horror, and while I'm still highly skeptical that this remake should ever make it to the screen, there are some potentially good things about the idea. Here are the pros and cons of bringing Captain Jack across the Atlantic:

Pro: Russell T. Davies and Julie Gardner
Davies brought Doctor Who back to life before he created Torchwood and has worked with Gardner before as a producer to help get this show off the ground in the UK. If you are going to make a new version of a landmark show, having the creator on hand is at least a promising start. And Davies certainly does know how to make addictively geeky television.

Con: Less UK Torchwood?
If Davies is working on this remake, and if star John Barrowman may join him (see below), what does that mean for fans of the UK version who were left desperate for more after the devastating finale of Torchwood: Children of Earth? Does it mean that we won't get the anticipated Season 4? Will they do both and run the risk of spreading themselves too thin? Hard to say. But I'd hate for anything to jeopardize our chances to see more of the UK show.

Pro: John Barrowman
There are rumors that John Barrowman might be tapped to reprise his role as Captain Jack Harkness, which in some respects would be amazing. He's a great actor that a lot of Americans probably knew nothing about until Neil Patrick Harris started battling with him a few weeks ago to be the most famous gay in the universe (or whatever the hell that was all about). Being on a show here would expand his international appeal, and honestly, I personally have a hard time imagining anyone (aside from possibly Nathan Fillion, who already has a decent job these days) being able to do that part justice.

Con: John Barrowman
Fox has an iffy track record with sci-fi, so launching a new series with someone who isn't really famous here could be a recipe for disaster and certain cancellation. But then again, House worked....

Pro: Making It More Global
One of the things that always kind of bugged me about both Doctor Who and Torchwood was that all of the alien encounters seemed to center around the UK and, in the case of the latter, Cardiff (likely for budgetary reasons). Kinda like how Buffy's Sunnydale was the center for all evil. It makes sense in the context of the show's mythology, but there have got to be weird creatures all over the planet for Captain Jack and Co. to deal with, and maybe now we'll see them.

Con: No Doctor Who References
Torchwood was a spin-off of Doctor Who and there have been plenty of character crossovers and references to things happening in the Who-verse. However, an American version would have to trim all that in order to be relevant for a mass audience that hasn't watched Who and is unaware of Jack's wonderfully twisted relationship with The Doctor. Hence, no random hand in the jar and definitely less thrills for the obsessive fans of both.

Pro: We Could Use a Sexy American Sci-fi Show
While Torchwood has a lot in common with Fringe, one of the things that makes it stand out is its very adult nature. It's not Showtime After Dark, but there's definitely a lot of sex between the co-workers (in various permutations), which makes all the alien-corralling that much more fun.

Con: Probably Less Gay
Captain Jack isn't just gay or bisexual, he's omnisexual (meaning that he'll have sex with men, women and aliens), which is another one of the great things about Torchwood. He's an equal opportunity flirter. But I have a hard time believing that network TV will air all the steamy scenes, especially if they involve two men, one of whom one is the show's leading man. (Though if American broadcasters are finally ready to deal with the realities of human relationships, how great would it be if it was Torchwood that busted down that door?)

Pro: More Episodes
Although I love the UK series, every time a season ends I'm left wanting so much more. The one thing that American TV has is the luxury of airing 22-plus episodes per season instead of 13 (or five, like the latest Torchwood miniseries). So if the U.S. version does turn out to be decent, we'll get plenty of it.

Con: More Conventional Co-Star
I'm going to be upfront about this: I think Eve Myles is totally cute and smart and makes a badass Gwen Cooper, but I have a hunch that the casting folks stateside are going to be pressured to try to find someone who is more conventionally gorgeous to fill Gwen's sassy shoes. Knowing Fox, they'll likely find a way to make Olivia Wilde part of this. Don't say we didn't warn you.

Con: Less Impactful
Unless they totally just take the basic premise and start fresh, this show is just going to be like every other watered-down procedural version of The X-Files out there. What really hooked me on Torchwood wasn't just the sexiness or the alien of the week, but the heavy-hitting emotional scenes between the characters. And this show has not been afraid to kill off beloved lead characters -- I can't even count the boxes of tissues I've used watching three brief seasons. If Fox does a straight remake of it, fans of the original will already know what's going to happen and the shocking twists and turns will lose their power.

Pro/Con: Previous American Adaptations
Some overseas shows do this transition well. Just look at Life on Mars, which was fairly well-executed, but short-lived, or The Office, which really found its footing after it broke out of the UK mold a bit, or Queer as Folk, which went to even racier places for many seasons. But for every success story, there are ten Kath and Kims or Couplings or Worst Weeks to contend with. And there's not much worse than a bad version of something you loved.

Let's face it: if this remake happens, I'll watch it - partly because it's my job, but mainly because I'm a big old geek. But I just think it sounds like a dicey and unnecessary proposition, and I wouldn't be unhappy if it never came to fruition. But if it does make it to air, there had better be some Captain Jack/James Marsters action for my troubles.

Feel free to sound off below.

62 Comments

January 19, 2010 4:39 PM
Grumpy
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I pretty much agree with all of the above, but jeez...For a professional writer, you can't spell or punctuate to save your life. Please look into apostrophe, the usage of. (Hint: it's not used to denote a plural word.)

January 19, 2010 4:49 PM
katie71483
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As much as I appreciate your thoughts on this topic, I don't think this is a good idea. The original is just too quirky and edgy to translate well for American audiences. I think if it did get picked up it would be treated like Firefly. Fox would mess around with the show, air it out of order and cancel it way too soon. It would hurt me for something as fabulous as Torchwood to receive such treatment.

I feel the same way about Shameless, another BBC import that is currently being remade for American Audiences. The original is a thoroughly filthy, utterly hysterical and ultimately satisfying delight. I don't see how it can possibly work here - even with the very talented William H. Macy.

January 19, 2010 4:55 PM
Shae
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The rumor has been that Series 4 will see Jack relocating to the US. Torchwood ratings in the UK aren't barn burning but it's HUGE for BBC America so it was a way to keep it the same show but appeal more to American audiences.

I'd rather see it stay on BBC America because Fox will air it out of order, on Friday night, and cancel it after two weeks. No matter what station it's on they aren't going to bring in a lot of new audience. It's a sci-fi crowd show and most of them know about even if they haven't seen it. A reboot isn't going to work for a built-in audience.

January 19, 2010 5:20 PM
MaggiSaar
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I don't know what to say to this. More Tourchwood and Captain Jack? Win. Fox trying to make it over entirely and begone with my beloved Gwen and Iianto? Fail. I...I am afraid.

January 19, 2010 5:23 PM
Laura
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As someone who's currently watching the UK version of Torchwood (I'm in season 2), I'd rather they just bring the show over instead of trying to "Americanize" it. The only major issue I can see with UK Torchwood is all the Doctor Who references/Martha's whole storyline, but I don't understand why they seem to think American audiences want their own version of something. Didn't they try to air Merlin over the summer? How did that turn out (I didn't watch, having already seen it)?

January 19, 2010 5:45 PM
h
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Why fix what isn't broken? Keep Torchwood in the UK. Torchwood was set up by Queen V to safeguard Britain. Name it something else if it's coming over here.

January 19, 2010 5:49 PM
Jim
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The first reason I thing that Torchwood U.S. would succeed is because Russell T. Davies will be involved. And if John Barrowman is involved, big plus. It does scare me that it would be on Fox though, as they ruined Firefly and Dollhouse (although I know most people don't like Dollhouse like I do).

And as far as other actors/actresses to be on the U.S. version, how about these people: Katee Sackkhoff, a computer analyst on 24 is a waste of her talent; Wentworth Miller, is not doing much and has strong Fox ties; Chiwetel Ejiofor, I know he is more of a movie guy but the chance to be a big player on a TV drama might appeal to him, and he is incredible.

January 19, 2010 5:54 PM
h
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Why fix what isn't broken? Keep Torchwood in the UK. Torchwood was set up by Queen V. to safeguard Britain. Name it something else if it's coming over here. Better yet, don't touch it. It'll be ruined if it's made over here.

January 19, 2010 6:17 PM
tvgirl48
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What is it with Fox airing episodes out of order? And why would anyone take a scifi show to Fox these days? Less Doctor Who connections would be really disappointing. Half the fun of having a spinoff show is the opportunity for crossovers and interconnected storylines/characters. I would hate it if they made the show less gay, because that's a big part of Torchwood. Captain Jack is omnisexual and he'll never make any apologies for that. I wish America could have an action star like Captain Jack, he breaks a lot of stereotypes.

January 19, 2010 6:19 PM
tvgirl48
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In a perfect world, they could just air the original British show on a major network in the US and that would be fine. But no, they make the same exact show, (a watered down version, of course), with American actors so we don’t get confused with all the accents and foreign places. Ugh.

Hell, if they want a Torchwood for America, just make another spinoff of Doctor Who/Torchwood involving UNIT in New York that Martha was working for. Keep Torchwood UK intact, but continue the franchise for the US.

Love the pic, by the way ;-)

January 19, 2010 6:55 PM
Jo
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I would be OK with it, I guess, if it was just Captain Jack moving to the States (briefly) for a change of scenery. But a full-on remake? Why? I see no point in it.

January 19, 2010 7:27 PM
Maddy
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Needs to be changed to

Con: Russell T. Davies

Pro: Julie Gardner

January 19, 2010 8:47 PM
D
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replied to comment from h

Oh, well, yes. But it also knows about secret UNIT projects from America and is creeply underground, so it might work as well -- outside the government and beyond the police, Queen V might as well have set american base "just in case".

January 19, 2010 9:01 PM
Kat
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Good article but it's "Children of Earth" instead of "Children of Men."

January 19, 2010 10:06 PM
ArmoredSnail
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I hope this never comes to pass. Or at least that they *don't* hire Barrowman to play the same character (at least in name), but remake the whole story. That would destroy my fond memories of the British series for me.

Remember the disaster called "Red Dwarf U.S."?? Same story. The American producers had even hired two writers of the British show and one of the British actors, but if you watch their interviews about that horrible disappointing experience, then you know why that remake didn't make it past two(!) attempts at a pilot, both of which failed and where never officially aired. And if you've seen the scenes that still exist in the Extras on the British DVDs then you know why that was a good thing.

January 19, 2010 10:10 PM
Avery
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I love Torchwood. However, Children of Earth left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would honestly welcome a US version, just so I could pretend that season never happened. I liked early Torchwood before they stated killing characters off en masse. I loved the team aspect of the show. If the American version could go back to that, I'd be happy.

I hung in there when they killed off Tosh & Owen (as an aside, did they have to go for 2? I really liked Tosh)

However, when they kill off Yanto and Jack kills his own grandson? If they do manage to have a Season 4, how are they going to make fans want to root for Jack again?

As much as I love Eve Myles, I 'd want Season 4 to be more than the "Gwen & Jack Show."

January 19, 2010 10:34 PM
Kim
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This could definitely work. I loved Children of Earth, but there are some episodes of the first two seasons that are downright terrible. So it isn't like Fox is trying to remake some untouchable classic show. I don't want to see a watered down Captain Jack though. I could deal with fewer Torchwood hookups, but don't de-gay Captain Jack.

January 19, 2010 11:16 PM
Sinkwriter72
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I love UK's Torchwood. FOX is too cowardly and conservative to do it right -- I would definitely fear that they would (as Kim above says) "water down" Captain Jack. And that would be a travesty. His whole energy as a character would be ruined.

January 19, 2010 11:24 PM
Tom
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I'm kind of iffy about it being moved to the US. It's such a British focused show, it would loose so much. Spin off, okay, mayble. But remake? No.

And it'll be Fox? We don't need to say why that's beyond a bad idea.

January 19, 2010 11:28 PM
Tom
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Just the fact it would be on Fox makes it a bad idea. Though I totally agree with the other reason you gave for pitfals.

January 19, 2010 11:34 PM
Marie
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I too am afraid that the U.S. version would be too watered down. The scene in the first season when Capt. Jack goes back to WWII and dances with his namesake is one of the most heartwrenching and tender moments that I have seen. There is NO way that U.S. broadcast TV would allow a scene like that to happen. The US likes the gays to be stereotypical.

January 20, 2010 12:01 AM
HoneyBee
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I don't want an USA remake. I'm fine if Captain Jack decides to open an USA Torchwood branch and still have continuity. But if they reboot/remake it like they did with other shows, I'm gonna be pissed!

January 20, 2010 12:24 AM
pervinca
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CON: Russell T Davies, Fox, "remake."

If this was a spin-off instead of a remake, it might work. Then when Fox cuts out all the gay bits, we won't know because it would be a butchering of entirely new characters instead Jack. :)

I don't know if I want to watch Torchwood UK S4 anyway.

January 20, 2010 3:11 AM
kitty
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NOOO!!! This is a terrible idea!! And on Fox ne less ...URGH!! Please Russel ..don't do it!!

January 20, 2010 3:12 AM
toshisback
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I agree completely with Honeybee. Please, please, please, no reboot/remake of Torchwood original. If Captain Jack opens a Torchwood branch in LA or NYC or even better, Boston, then fine. I can see a 6-7 episode arc at most in the USA with John Barrowman lending his immense talents to getting Torchwood USA spinoff off the ground. Then the remainder of the the season's episodes with Captain Jack should be in the original Torchwood located in Cardiff, Wales.

I also worry that the US FOX network has a reputation for muddling/killing scifi shows. They don't seem to know how to develop the characters or get high quality scripts on an ongoing basis. At least with Russell T Davies and Julie Gardner that won't be such an issue. It's gonna be hard to keep up that quirky, geeky sense of British humor that is a trademark of the original Torchwood, though.

And I'm concerned that the omnisexual content of the show will be diminished to pablum for the American audience. I hope the cheeky-ness isn't removed completely.

January 20, 2010 3:44 AM
Kim
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replied to comment from ArmoredSnail

The Red Dwarf comparisons were exactly what came to my mind when I read this. Another show I adore--even a sci-fi show of sorts--that was made into a U.S. pilot so brutal that most hardcore fans of the show never want to see it again. For any reason. Just stop it, Fox. You'll ruin it.

January 20, 2010 3:57 AM
S.C.
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Stupid question, but why do a remake or strip out things like the Doctor Who connection?

Just do a straight out spinoff. You're going to have some character in the pilot who acts as a proxy for the audience and needs to have the background explained, so just explain that Queen Victoria was attacked by a werewolf, rescued by an alien traveller, and decided form an organization to keep that sort of thing from happening. Then come up with some plausible reason for there being an American version (in the 1890's Torchwood was involved in a mission in the U.S. which led to an Anglo-American cooperateive effort until Teddy Roosevelt, who didn't want the U.S. to play second fiddle to the British Empire, spun off the U.S. version in the early 1900's (which would explain why it never got mention in the British series)).

With the exception of the Cyberwoman episode, the hand in the jar, and Martha's visit, Torchwood was pretty much isolated from Doctor Who, so you could have a U.S. series with even more oblique references that would make the fans squee but wouldn't bother newbies if they didn't get them. You could also have the events of CoE still haunting Captain Jack (if he's in it); the fans would know and appreciate the enrichment of the character, and the newbies would have a character with a mysterious past, and God knows there are plenty of those on TV.

January 20, 2010 5:21 AM
Shaz
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As much as Children of Earth had me wanting to kick RTD, FOX would destroy Torchwood. Maybe USA Network could handle it, given the track record of Psych and Burn Notice, but still. It's part of British television history, and brilliantly BBC.

No Doctor and a sanitised-for-American-TV Captain Jack says 'no way' to me. I'm too much of a DW purist to watch it.

January 20, 2010 6:22 AM
Bob Poland
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Leave Torchwood alone!!!
FIX would absolutely ruin it, and without John Barrowman,I would not watch. FOX would take out everything we are fans of Captain Jack for! NO, NO, NO!!!

January 20, 2010 6:24 AM
Bob
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oops, should be FOX

January 20, 2010 8:02 AM
Matt
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I understand RTD's desire to make an Americanized Torchwood (he already has a lead actor with an American accent, so no need to even recast), but why would he go to Fox or all places? The network has a long track record of not knowing what to do with sci-fi shows and bailing early on shows that don't get ratings immediately. Bad move.

January 20, 2010 10:25 AM
h
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On the other hand, given Fox's abysmal track record with sci-fi shows (it's still a mystery to me that they let X Files run long enough to become such a hit) any crap they put out as Torchwood will quickly sink below the water, never to be seen again. At least the agony of a butchery of this show would be short.

January 20, 2010 11:30 AM
Bill
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No! No! No!
The power of the British show is its willingness to break boundaries - whether that be killing stars or homsexual relationships. Also, the brevity of each series means that we don't have weak episodes just to fill the space. Short but good is better than long and mediocre. Also, US audiences have generally rejected unusual concepts that don't fit into a neat weekly mold. Recently, this was affirmed by the Life on Mars adaptation that never lived up to its UK heritage.

January 20, 2010 12:23 PM
John
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As much as I enjoy Torchwood, I think that Fox and US censors would butcher and sanitize it to the point it would be unrecognizable and unwatchable. And as has already been said; FOX no longer has the stamina to hold onto a Sci-Fi show long enough for it to gain an audience.

January 20, 2010 12:50 PM
zerico
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I think I might like it if it was openned as a Torchwood branch, some kind of collaboration between Torchwood and the US government. I don't think they'd need Jack in every episode especially since they'd have to rehash his non-dying story line again and again and again and again.
I'm not convinced that Fox is the right home for it though. I think they could go farther, do more, and keep it running longer on a cable channel like syfy, TNT, or USA (and yes, I know what I just said, but TNT and USA have really up-ed their ability to produce good television the past couple of years).

January 20, 2010 1:19 PM
cat
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I agree with every little point made above. But one point was woefully forgotten. The thing that bothers me most is that people are already calling our beloved Torchwood, Torchwood UK. It's 'Torchwood' folks! Shouldn't the extended title only apply to Torchwood US? The remake hasn't even been cast yet! Which is also a very scary prospect.

January 20, 2010 1:21 PM
Kristen
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Good article. You're right about Children of Earth being devastating. :( I so wasn't ready for that. Anyway, I'm not sure that more episodes is a pro. Generally, more of a good thing is good, but the short seasons on UK television leads to much tighter story-telling and they're not burdened with all the filler we always get here. So, if executed well, more is good. If not, more is just more. I can't say I'm looking forward to this (although I'm DYING for the BBC version to start up again), but I'm sure I'll watch if they do a US version, just out of curiosity.

Also, where is the rift going to be in all of this? It's in Cardiff, soooo why exactly would they be here? Just chasing aliens down who got out of the rift without passing through Cardiff? I dunno... But I trust RTD to make a quality program and not to be just doing this for the extra money...

January 20, 2010 1:35 PM
Doug W.
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I hate this idea. And, I'd like to point out, there are already two shows on SyFy that are essentially American/Canadian rip-offs of Torchwood: Sanctuary and Warehouse 13. I don't know why FOX would think it was a great idea...the fans certainly don't!

January 20, 2010 1:35 PM
Doug W.
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I hate this idea. And, I'd like to point out, there are already two shows on SyFy that are essentially American/Canadian rip-offs of Torchwood: Sanctuary and Warehouse 13. I don't know why FOX would think it was a great idea...the fans certainly don't!

January 20, 2010 1:43 PM
Blake
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Fox? Fox imported another British show about 15 years ago and it didn't fare well. Some people may remember it. It was called "Doctor Who."

While I am deeply worried about Americanizing Torchwood and having Fox pushing buttons, getting Davies as the head of the show is a good thing. The first two seasons of Torchwood have some great highlights, but aren't well paced, consistent or extraordinary. It's only with Children of Earth that he finally found how to make the show consistently compelling. So the idea that he gets to take what he's found and relaunch the show could be a very positive thing.

January 20, 2010 1:47 PM
Katy
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I don't think we needed one Torchwood, let alone two, but a little network control over Davies's self-indulgence may be a very good idea. Children of Earth was surprisingly good, but the first two seasons were atrociously written, melodramatic, juvenile and nonsensical. And American TV can be bad, but I've never seen anything, anywhere, to compare with the badness of Davies's last few season finales of Doctor Who.

January 20, 2010 3:23 PM
cearbhallain
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[quote]And American TV can be bad, but I've never seen anything, anywhere, to compare with the badness of Davies's last few season finales of Doctor Who.[/quote]

That, right there, is the elephant in the room. Davies has had some great ideas and been responsible for a wonderful re-imagining of the Dr Whoniverse, but he could really use a short leash, or just someone to keep him honest. What's Joss up to these days ;)

January 20, 2010 3:43 PM
docdonna
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Americans who enjoy British television and the boundaries they cross get their fix already. On BBC America. Who will tune into this new show other than loyal fans of the original out of sheer curiosity. I don't think there needs to be a 'remake' simply because Torchwood HAS an audience already in America. This is so irritating to me...

January 20, 2010 4:35 PM
hanacod
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"all of the alien encounters seemed to center around the UK and, in the case of the latter, Cardiff (likely for budgetary reasons)"
It's a British show - made for, and paid for by, British people. Nearly all the sci-fi that you see, in films and on telly, is set in America (and incidentally over 90% of all alien 'sightings' but let's not go there). I don't think that the X files was only set in America for 'budgetary reasons' but because it was made for an American audience.
You can keep all your aliens, and to be honest you can keep Torchwood - the 5 parter was extraordinary but also a perfect ending to what was generally a pretty underwhelming show.
Let us keep Dr Who though!

January 20, 2010 4:54 PM
rh248
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Totally agree with docdonna, it got great ratings on BBC America because the US fans of British TV seek it out and watch their favorites there. And trying to remake something that's part of a franchise like this is stupid. The Doctor Who franchise is so significant in British television but in the US it's still basically a cult scifi show. There's a myriad of factors as to why Torchwood did well. The logic of "oh, well it did well when the original aired so let's make an Americanized version that Americans will love" is unsound.

January 20, 2010 5:02 PM
Sinkwriter72
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replied to comment from cat

Cat, I'm one of the people who is guilty of saying "U.K.'s Torchwood" in my above post. However, I said that in order to compare and contrast what I think would happen to the program if it were to come into production as an American show. I LIKE it coming from the U.K. and I want it to stay that way. For the record, I live in the U.S. and I don't need an American version of Torchwood. Like docdonna smartly says above, Torchwood already has an American audience. The show doesn't need to be remade. And since it's pretty much a given that FOX would sanitize the hell out of it, the U.S. version would be far inferior to what the U.K. version has already produced so wonderfully. I really wish Torchwood would be left alone.

January 20, 2010 7:05 PM
Alyson
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I'm as torn by a prospective US Torchwood as you are. There is an opening in cannon to have Captain Jack just show up in the US (remember there is a Torchwood that has just gone missing somewhere), but do we really want him to. Remember, story goes that JB lost out to Eric McCormack for the role of Wil in "Wil and Grace" because he was not perceived as "gay enough." If the American networks can't handle a gay man playing a gay character, how are they ever going to handle a character like Captain Jack. Can they make Torchwood without the Captain Jack character.....in a word....NO!

January 20, 2010 11:00 PM
farsighted
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I think you all are looking at this wrong.

First, this is BBC Worldwide trying to figure out a way to survive and make these shows here in the US. The licensing free that the BBC is funded by is slowing being reduced, and possibly disappearing in the next few years. Jane Trantor has been over is the US working for BBC Worldwide for awhile now, and since the summer Julie Gardner and Russell T. Davies left the UK to come over here and set up shop for the next few years in the hopes of being able to produce British shows here in America. Torchwood series 3 aired over in Britain this summer to huge audiences, plus it's very popular in America. I would imagine that they are using Torchwood as an experiment to see if they can produce British shows here with the help of American funds. To fund a show like Torchwood in the UK now is very difficult. There was an article recently in the UK papers talking about how they are going to have to shut down long running popular shows in order to make ends meet. I'm fairly certain that if Torchwood gets a pilot approved by FOX and it gets produced, it will be pretty much the same show as what we know; RTD writing it, Julie Gardner producing it, and John Barrowman starring in it. Obviously there will be some modifications for the US audience but I don't think it's going to be as bad as what you are suggesting. I think RTD wouldn't allow it. He's the creator, it's his baby. I say, let them do it. It could be very good. The only problem I see is Eve Myles; not sure if she would work; but the omnisexual Jack would have to stay. I think the canon would be the same, perhaps less comments about the Doctor, but as you know, the Doctor never appeared in Torchwood, (except for his hand :-) ); so I don't really see that as a problem. And a line or two once in awhile wouldn't lose the audience. I say, let RTD do it and we will see what happens. But it could be a good thing. British shows written and produced by Brits are much better than British shows turned over to Americans. FOX, well maybe the show goes to the cable station FX.

January 21, 2010 12:46 AM
HanakoGal
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replied to comment from S.C.

I also thought a historical story of Torchwood would probaby work very well. We never get to see how exactally it gets started so it wouldn't contradict canon to just fill that stuff in. A fun steampunk- alien-adventure show would be great to see.

January 21, 2010 3:01 AM
S.C.
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replied to comment from HanakoGal

I was thinking of how you could work a U.S. Torchwood into the existing Whoniverse (of which Torchwood is a part). The actual series would be set in the present, but I think you could definitely have flashback episodes.

But I agree that a steampunk-alien adventure show would be great fun; I actually came up with an idea for such a series years ago (it was a secret alien invasion type series with the twist being that it was set in the late 19th century).

January 21, 2010 10:50 AM
Lovely Assistant
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"One of the things that always kind of bugged me about both Doctor Who and Torchwood was that all of the alien encounters seemed to center around the UK and, in the case of the latter, Cardiff (likely for budgetary reasons)."

This struck a nerve for me. God forbid a TV show made in a country other than the US be that country-centric. I know it wasn't meant that way, but sheesh.

January 21, 2010 7:56 PM
Em
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I LOVE TORCHWOOD...but to make a US version would not be the same at all. They should just stick to making more episodes for the BBC instead of taking the Captain and making another series.

January 22, 2010 12:01 PM
Lor
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Actually there IS a reson for all the aliens n' stuff to be in Cardiff, being the fact that there's a huge rift in space and time through the city, but I digress.

Anyway, didn't Fox try and do their own Doctor Who in the 90's? Wasn't that where Paul McGann came from?
I wouldn't mind an American Torchwood, but I would mind if it becomes like awful fanfiction. On the otherhand I think Gwen gets annoying sometimes and a fresh look at her character can't hurt.

It's probably going to turn out like bad fanfiction, though.

January 22, 2010 3:20 PM
witchesthree
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JB is in a UK civil partnership(been together 16yrs) and is very vocal about gay rights--how would Fox and US viewers deal with that?

January 24, 2010 10:36 PM
Betsy
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replied to comment from Lovely Assistant

In response to Lovely Assistant, if you note, the author also complained of the same problem with Buffy, set in California. There's no problem with a British show being British, but if the show often deals with alien encounters with the world, it does seem slightly ridiculous that all of the aliens would go to the UK. If for no other reason than a few smart ones might start landing in Brazil or something just so they wouldn't be caught as fast by the Doctor/Torchwood, who are also always in the UK.

January 26, 2010 11:39 PM
lar
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I'd actually change that to:

Con: Russell T. Davies-- the scripts for children of earth were inconsistant with everything that had been established in first 2 seasons (perhaps because the day to day writting for S1&2 was overseen by Chris Chibnall-- prior to Children of Earth, Davies had only written 1 episode of Torchwood-- the piolet which was a rejected BBC script that Davies re-worked into a Who spin-off)... and his comments toward the people who watched his show and spent alot of $$ on it's DVDs and merchandise was appalling.

Con: Julie Gardner-- On the few occasions that Davies lets her get a word in, she just repeats him. She's demonstrated that she isn't capable of keeping him on any kind of a leash.

While children of earth did get huge ratings, it has not been picked up by BBC... and I doubt it will be with Davies name attached. Alot of people were furious with what Davies put out for Children of Earth-- in my opinion it was badly written and completely inconsistant with the first two seasons. I canceled my pre-ordered DVD's as soon as Day 5 ended as I'm sure many people did... even now, from what I've read, the books aren't selling as well as expected and Torchwood magazine isn't doing well.

I agree that this probably won't go anywhere and if it gets on air it won't last long. The fact is, Fox's track record with sci fi speaks for itself... I doubt anyone's gonna let them forget firefly. Ever.

The only advantage I see is that I doubt Fox will tolerate Davies for long.

April 13, 2010 5:31 PM
jfeicht
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BAD IDEA! I am a huge Torchwood fan and there is no way you can dumb it down or make it less risque without ruining it! The fragile little american minds of Americans can't handle this kind of show if they couldn't even handle Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip(NBC). Trying to americanize Torchwood would ruin the British version. In US, they get the "pretty" people to star but they have no talent. British actors & actresses know how to act! Please Mr. Davies, don't do it!

June 24, 2010 1:00 PM
Jeff
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Not Fox!!! I am an American that has seen every eposode of Torchwood from day 1 (the internet is a good thing.) I have no qualms about American television taking over Torchwood and making it their own but, I am very apprehensive about Fox taking over the show. I am afraid they will just lease the show air 1 to 13 episodes and then let it sit not allowing any other network to work with it. Don't forget about what happened in the 90's when Fox tried to make Doctor Who. We had 1 episode and 9 years of nothing because Fox would let their lease go.

April 7, 2011 4:37 PM
Matthew
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Why can america try to make their own original idea show and not try to copy shows from other countries, I laughed when they said they would make a US version of Kath & Kim, they show uses Aussie humour and the actors style is also the reason it is funny, you cant translate it to another culture when the show is specific to that cutlure.

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