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American Idol: Four More Bite the Dust, and Talk With their Mouths Full

We're down to the Final 12 on American Idol! Man, it must be such a great feeling to get to that point. Really, just the total realization of any young singer's dreams. And to get cut just shy of the final 12? That must be incredibly painful. To find out what that pain feels like, we sat in on a conference call with the four contestants who were cut from the Final 16 last week, and discovered why they think they went home and what they hope they'll be doing in the future.

First up, Katelyn Epperly...

Do you think the judges were too hard on you?
Katelyn:
They were definitely more critical towards me. I'm not sure if that's because I've been performing for so long that they maybe expected more out of me than what I was giving them.

After a great performance in the second week, did last week's performance take you out of your comfort zone?
Katelyn:
I definitely was trying to find a song that would portray me as an artist, which is difficult for singer-songwriters in this competition because, first of all, I don't listen to mainstream music, and second of all, I typically don't perform covers. So I kinda scrambled around at the last minute, trying to find something I could do, I brought out the Wurlitzer keyboard I wanted to do something edgier, but it didn't really work out for me. But I definitely don't regret doing it, because I love that era, and I definitely love the song.

Do you think the show should start allowing contestants to play original songs?
Katelyn:
That's a tough one. People like Lilly, Crystal and I would excel in that category, but it's a show where you get judged, and original music, especially the music that I write, is filled with a lot of emotion, and it's based on your personal experiences. And I think it would be hard for me to get up in front of four people and have them tell me that my personal experiences are invalid, and my song that I wrote when I was going through a hard time wasn't good enough. But I think it would be a cool twist to bring to the show.

Who were you close to on the show?
Katelyn:
Lilly and I were best friends throughout. We were roommates throughout the show. And we hung out all the time, so it was kind of ironic that we both got eliminated. On the same day, but maybe it happened for a reason.

So what are your plans?
Katelyn:
For now, since I'm flat broke, I gotta go back to Des Moines and start working, and continue to pursue recording and writing music with all sorts of different artists. A band called Lovedrug -- it's been a band I've been listening to since I was real young -- I'm gonna get together with them and hopefully start creating music with them, as well as other artists. We'll see how it all pans out.

What surprised you the most about being on the show?
Katelyn:
I didn't expect to get along with people so well. I've been doing music my whole life and never really got along with the people in choir and so forth, and I thought it was gonna be a bunch of divas walking around. And there were some, of course, there's gonna be some in every bunch, but I definitely didn't know about all the behind-the-scenes people you work with The show's so huge and so much goes on that you don't even realize until you get there it's a huge, working machine, and I've never realized until now, because I hadn't seen the show in a few years, I'd never realized how big it was. I mean, you go from being nobody to walking down the street and people are calling out your name. But it's probably one of the best marketing platforms for you to start your career off on. I basically just got handed 30 million viewers, and I hope if you liked my covers, you'll like my original work.

Next was roommate and co-evictee Lilly Scott...

What were you feeling after you were voted off, when you said, "I don't know what America wants to hear"?
Lilly:
Trying out this year, I really wanted to break the mold and be that offbeat contestant who did exactly what I wanted to do and really just explain myself as an artist with my song choice, And I really have no regrets in that department, but watching certain people make it into the top 12 that had not done so well over the past three weeks, and then based on the judge's comments on my three songs for the past three weeks, I was just kind of frustrated, feeling like my fan base wasn't there, even though the producers and the judges seemed to love me. And I was feeling like I was having a great run on the show, but I guess my fans weren't there. So I guess that's why I said, "I don't know what America wants to listen to." But then again, my voting demographic is probably more of the underground scene, who probably doesn't even own a TV, and if they do they're probably out riding their bike, or doing something more productive than watching TV, let alone American Idol. So I guess they just weren't voting.

Do you think it was your song choice last week that got you sent home?
Lilly:
Yes and no. I kind of feel that I picked that song because I love Patsy Cline, and it really describes who I want to be as an artist, but then, the American Idol voting demographic is probably mostly tweens, like 11- and 12-year-old girls, and I'm sure they don't know who Patsy Cline is, so that probably affected me. I just feel like maybe my fan base, the audience I was playing to, which is the underground market, probably literally wasn't watching the show and just supporting me in their heart and not actually voting. And then there's the whole deal with maybe people just assumed I was safe, and just chose not to vote. So honestly, I have no idea what happened.

Given what you know of your fan base and the AI demographic, did you kinda see this coming?
Lilly:
I did and I didn't. In the past few years I've watched American Idol, and it seems like every year the person I fall in love with goes home, and I don't know if that's because I see true artistry in that contestant, or what it is, but I definitely feel like I got cut early. I know that I could have done a great job next week with the Rolling Stones, and I probably could have really kicked butt in the top 12, but maybe I was just too off-the-wall for people, or maybe it was just my time to go out with a bang and keep my indie cred and do my own thing without having the American Idol label all over me.

If you could work with anyone, what artist would you like to work with?
Lilly:
I would love to meet Thom Yorke from Radiohead, and people like Bjork. They're kind of like the king and queen of the indie world. They're really kind of who I strive to be as an artist, and their fan base is so huge, and they're so respected as artists.

Where will you go from here?
Lilly:
I definitely feel I would fit in the big summer festival circuit, doing things like Coachella and Bonnaroo and really doing some mass touring. I know I can have a whole entire different kind of audience coming out to shows if I did tour, and recording is definitely on my list of things to do. I know there's a fan base out there for me that is loving what I'm doing, I just don't necessarily think that was the American Idol voting demographic. That's what I worried out day one of being on the show, and I thought I could break the mold, but I guess it's another season of the same old stuff.

Next up? Todrick Hall.

There were four guys from Texas -- Casey, Tim, Alex and you -- did you bond at all?
Todrick:
We were all kind of nervous about it, because Texas is such a strong area. Jason Castro and Kelly Clarkson did so well and also Joshua Allen did so well on So You Think You Can Dance?, because Texas has such strong voting power. But there's six of us, not just four guys but also two girls from Texas. So we did talk about it, but it wasn't anything we thought was a concern.

You gave such a great performance last week -- what went wrong?
Todrick:
I feel like I should have done that a couple weeks earlier. The problem is, I'm an African-American male, as you all can tell, and I got so many messages saying "Sing Usher, sing Chris Brown, sing Neyo, Brian McKnight, Stevie Wonder... any black artist that you can sing, basically, because that's your demographic." But that's not the kind of music that I want to sing. So I'm happy that I stayed true to myself, but I sadly feel that if I'd just sang the cookie-cutter song that people would have expected me to do, not gone so far out there with the performing and the clothes and just been a normal guy, I maybe would have done better.

Both you and Adam Lambert were open about your theatrical backgrounds from the beginning, then your performances were repeatedly labeled as "too theatrical." Do you think that weighed you down?
Todrick:
I do honestly feel that way. When people know things about you, it's hard to shake those things. I told someone today that I feel if Lady Gaga, one of the most successful artist out there right now, if she was on American Idol, I don't think that they would have good things to say about her. And to a certain extent, I do think that they want you to be out of the box. They kept telling me I was changing things too much, but then I would hear them tell people they weren't changing it enough and making it their own, and you have to try to find that line.

If you could sing any song you wanted, which would you have done?
Todrick:
I wanted to sing "Black and Gold," which is on the Fame movie. I love that song and I wanted to dance and do everything I wanted to do with that song, but it didn't fit any of the criteria for the categories, so unfortunately I couldn't do that.

Did you make any friends on the show?
Todrick:
My best friend was José Munoz. He was the first guy I met when I was there, and I took him to see The Color Purple with me, he hadn't really seen any Broadway musicals, so I was probably closest to him, as well as Alex Lambert, because Alex was my roommate.

What's next in your future?
Todrick:
I'm making it my personal job to get myself a role on Glee. I think I would be perfect for that show, and so every time someone asks me what I'm doing now, I'm just telling everyone that I would love love love to be the next cast member on Glee. And I didn't even think about that until the other day, when Simon said, "You look like you're doing American Idol: The Musical," and Randy chimed in and said "Glee!" And I was like, "Actually, I think I would love to be on Glee!" That's the perfect show for me, and the reason I came on American Idol, to hopefully take this platform and do something else with it.

And finally, the unfortunately named Alex Lambert.

What did you mean when you said you wish you'd been able to break out of your shell?
Alex:
When I said I wanted to break out of my shell, every time I got up there I couldn't even sing my best because I was so nervous. I have a whole other series of songs I can sing that are so much better than what I sang on the show. I don't regret anything -- this is the beginning of my career, and I'd never really been on stage before, so I felt I did great for not having any experience.

Do you feel like you're ready to conquer your nerves?
Alex:
I feel like I'm already past it, and I just needed a few more weeks of experience on that stage, because. -- it wasn't a nerve thing, I would get up here and it felt right, I just didn't know how to look at the cameras, how to react to the audience, because I'd never done it before. So that's definitely something I could easily get past.

What helped you come out of your shell the most, the judges or the support of your peers?
Alex:
I would say it's all me. The only person that was gonna help me overcome my stage fright and my nervousness was me. It was all in my head. I could have gone up there and had a great performance, but in my performance, I was thinking about nailing the song vocally, I wasn't really thinking about performing. I guess I never thought that the show was so much a performing show as a singing competition, and I had it in my head [that] I want my vocals to be so much better than everyone else's, and I guess I lost track of the fact that it was a television show.

How little experience do you really have?
Alex:
Before American Idol, I had performed at a few coffee shops, and the most people that ever showed up was probably 40 people, and they were mostly my friends and family. I don't have any experience singing in front of people that I don't know, and that was the main problem for me.

Do you know what kind of artist you want to be?
Alex:
I know exactly what kind of artist I want to be. I really would like to do a bunch of acoustic stuff, but I also wanna be on some R&B tracks and a whole lot of different stuff. I know my voice, and I know what I can and can't do, and I know it would sound good on not just one genre of music, I could put it on anything.

What song were you planning to do next week?
Alex:
The Rolling Stones -- I was planning on doing "19th Nervous Breakdown."

Did the stylists give you an grief about your mullet?
Alex:
The stylist had already asked me if I wanted to cut it. They probably would have wanted to, but I never would have let them cut my mullet.

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14 Comments

March 15, 2010 6:42 PM
JB
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Lilly is all kinds of disgusting. "Another season of the same old stuff"? Oh, you mean like your done-to-death singing style? Talk about biting the hand that feeds. She should be grateful for the amount of exposure AI has given her, because let's face it, she's average at best. And that's being kind, because what she really is is offensive and arrogant and a butcher of great songs. Taking a song that Patsy Cline sang with such feeling and heartbreak, then performing it like a creepy goblin hopped-up on meth was simply inexcusable. She's simply not as good as she thought she was, and she's beginning to see that the rest of the world sees it. Quit being so bitter and go back to making sandwiches.

March 15, 2010 10:04 PM
SB
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I was neutral on Lilly until I think Hollywood week where she felt the need to tell the viewers how special and gifted she was and acted like we should be grateful she chose to share her specialness with us. I could trip over a dozen people in a coffeeshop who are better. And don't have horrible silver hair and plucked some poor bird for earrings.

March 16, 2010 12:40 AM
Kristen
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Alex, whenever you decide to record an album, I will buy it.

Todrick, if you make it on Glee...I will have to stop watching Glee.

Katelyn, I love you, girl. Don't ever change.

Lilly. I don't know about this one. I did like her singing voice and her performance style (definitely not her personal style). Normally I would say her comments here were sour grapes and in bad taste, and they are a little conceited, but she's not entirely off base that her audience was probably not watching AI. They think they're too good for it, just like she does, in which case she probably shouldn't have tried out.

March 16, 2010 2:52 AM
Freya77
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I'm disappointed that toddrick got voted off, I hope glee does his talent justice... Um, lily sounds like an arrogant prick, but its a shame coz she has originality. Why the hell is katelyn voted off?!

March 16, 2010 3:41 PM
jenn
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Todrick-A fan of Lady Gaga, and he wants to be on Glee, yes please! I'm in the minority that actually liked him.

Lilly Scott is one live wire, she does come off a bit conceited, and while I loved her style and music on the show, i have to agree that this was not the venue for her. If your audience isn't watching, then what's the point? (still she should've stayed as opposed to Katie Stevens)

Katelyn-very well spoken

Alex Lambert-can I just give you a hug? And I would totally buy an album of his, or download the songs.

March 16, 2010 6:49 PM
Muzik Dinle
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I was neutral on Lilly until I think Hollywood week where she felt the need to tell the viewers how special and gifted she was and acted like we should be grateful she chose to share her specialness with us. I could trip over a dozen people in a coffeeshop who are better. And don't have horrible silver hair and plucked some poor bird for earrings.

March 17, 2010 11:58 AM
Janellionaire
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Ugh, Lilly needs to shut up and go back to Quiznos. This is already the second thing I've read today where she is talking about her "fans" and how they all live in the woods or something and don't watch the show. If she wants to fit in with that crowd so badly, maybe she should take her Casper the Friendly Ghost act into the forest too, and not BE on the SHOW that she obvs thinks she is too good for, now that she has been voted off that is.

March 17, 2010 1:50 PM
Craig
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I really didn't understand the Lilly hate that was out there until I started reading her interviews. Gah, what a tool.

March 17, 2010 11:57 PM
Surly.Girly
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Loved Todrick - he has a special style, but needs to hone his musical talent. All serious performers have the "triple threat" of drama, dance, and song. So Todrick, you've got the potential - step it up.

About Lily: I think that it was her attitude that turned America off. Yes - great voice. No doubts there. But the swagger, the smugness, the self-admiration... those that vote checked it out and it didn't click. I think that attitude was distilled into its essence when, standing there next to Katie and waiting for the decision, she smirked so condescendingly, with a phony warmth and patronizing attitude all over her face as Ryan read what the judges found wrong with Katie's performance. Then - surprise, surprise! - she's the one being booted. Ouch.

Re her comments that her fan base is out there riding bikes and kicking a$$ - whatever ... begs the question: If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it - does it make a sound?

March 18, 2010 9:09 AM
Abushenob
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I was very pleasantly surprised by the maturity and reasonableness of all 4 people. I was very disappointed when most of them got voted off. I think Lilly was done in by being one of three singers on the show who appealed to more sophisticated grown-up viewers, who vote much less. She is correct that Tweeners are the real voters; hence, Tim Urban survived two very bad early performances (He's much improved last two weeks and was great on the Stones song). I just realized recently that 60s-70s Rock is dead. Neither the audience nor the judges want to hear the real thing. Current rock (like David Cook) is not bad, but it is different, and not really what we once called rock. Thus performers who perform it are in danger. R&B (Aretha's stuff) still works - as Kelly Clarkson proved, but Stones, Doors - 'white' rock does not have an audience and dooms performers on Idol who try it. I hope Alex is successful, he is charming, with a great voice, and his thoughts in this artical were confident, honest and accurate. I like Lilly - she had me with the old jazz standard at her first audition, and I don't even like jazz, as a rule. Her take on the audience and her reason for losing agree exactly with mine. What she doesn't mention is that she was harmed by vying for the same demographic as Siobhan and Crystal, just as Jennifer Hudson was harmed by being one of the three terrific Black 'divas' in her season. Todrick doesn't mention the harm done by the hostile net buzz (and news coverage) he encountered from the start. I like that he knows exactly where he fits and what he wants. Todrick may well be correct that he was harmed by being black and not doing 'black' covers. When I read net commentary, I am always dismayed by the amount of talk about clothes and appearance - I don't recall anyone (back in my day in the hippy scene) EVER talking about Janis Joplin's appearance. As I say, there is excellent music out now being called rock, but what was called 'rock' in the sixties is dead, dead, dead.

An odd thing this season is that performers who totally blow a performance seem to survive and then when they have a great week, they get voted off or bottom 3. Happened again this week with Lacey, Tim and Paige.

March 18, 2010 1:34 PM
Face Reality
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No, Lilly dear, the problem wasn't tweens or that your "demographic" didn't vote because they assumed you were safe. The problem was that you, no matter what AI judges said [they are desperate to maintain rating so are talking up anyone the least bit out of the ordinary, are not unique or unusually original or exceptionally talented. Lilly only made it through 2 rounds of public voting. Obviously, most people weren't interested in seeing anymore of her performances. Especially since I FALL TO PIECES, sounded awful.

March 19, 2010 11:44 AM
Doodle
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Lilly? Yes, I liked her edgy, funny style. But when she opened her mouth to sing - oy. That's not even quirky. That's just bad, out-of-tune singing. Why don't they ever just tell some of these people flat out that they really need to HIT THE NOTES at least 90% of the time to have a career as a singer?

October 3, 2011 6:06 AM
Janeece
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I found myself nodding my noggin all the way thgoruh.

October 5, 2011 12:13 AM
Melissa
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Now that's sbulte! Great to hear from you.

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