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Considering the people behind Showtime's new Hollywood-skewering series Episodes are TV biz veterans -- it was created by David Crane, who also created Friends, and Jeffrey Klarik, who worked on Mad About You and Dream On -- I expected some Extras-esque insights here. Some genuine and refreshing roasting of the television process, particularly regarding the adaptation of British television for American audiences. What I didn't expect were few and far-between laughs, a bunch of caricatures in supporting roles, two of the most irritating protagonists I have ever seen, and for the presence of Matt LeBlanc to be the only thing worth watching about it, which is what I got. Truly, it was a shocking experience watching this pilot.
The show follows British couple Sean and Beverly Lincoln, who are lured to Hollywood after their prep school comedy series starts winning awards overseas and American networks start seeing dollar signs in adapting it, as they often do. When the Lincolns get here, however, they are shocked -- shocked! -- that they have to change their show for the new format. The lead has to be handsome here, and a name (that's where LeBlanc comes in), and he's now a hockey coach, not the scholarly and seasoned headmaster he was in the original series. They find this ludicrous and outrageous (and not just because it puts the original actor out of work, which was understandably sad for them), which is a problem for a couple reasons.
Firstly, British series are almost always changed when they are adapted for a foreign audience -- everyone knows that -- and quite often those changes are necessary. Don't agree to an adaptation without accepting that. American people are very different from English people, and that has to be accounted for. Anglophiles hardly make a dent in the American TV-watching population, even the ones who like smart, genuinely great shows, and you have to make these shows into something the audience on whole can relate to. Second, you can't get brilliant material out of a sports storyline? Ever hear of Friday Night Lights? The League? Sports Night? Which reminds me -- American television is not the shitfest it used to be. Everything we make is not uniformly bad and everything England makes is not disproportionately sparkling anymore, yet that dated ratio is the very backbone of this show's premise. And lastly, I thought they came here mostly for the money and fame? Why should they care about the quality of the American version? I agree that remakes and adaptations are overdone and often failures, but in every other aspect it just seemed like this show was largely preaching to a choir that doesn't exist anymore.
But there was some good. Matt LeBlanc wasn't in the premiere episode much, but I've seen the second ep, and he's actually kind of great and his lines are funny. Sadly, that bit with the doorman at the Lincolns' gated community pretending not to remember them continues on (seriously, that gag could not have been less funny, and that woman is so overly quirky, affected and grating that she might be my new Todd Dempsey), as does everything with Jon Pankow's loutish network exec Merc, who is so thinly drawn and knee-jerk that Seth MacFarlane could have written him. But the dim Valley Girl at the network continues to be funny, if pretty cartoonish, and by the end of episode two, she had kind of grown on me. I just wish this show were smarter and a lot funnier -- in a post-Extras world, this just isn't nearly good enough.
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"Firstly, British series are almost always changed when they are adapted for a foreign audience -- everyone knows that -- and quite often those changes are necessary. Don't agree to an adaptation without accepting that. American people are very different from English people, and that has to be accounted for. "
It's no wonder Americans are so insular when tv networks are afraid to show anything remotely un-Americanized. US citizens are treated like morons by their media, so morons they will remain.
Well thank you very much!
I'll take my smart, genuinely great, european shows over any adapted „americanized“ mess any day. It often is the „necessary“ US-Adaptation that ruins the premise of a truly great foreign show ..and that is why nobody watches them and they get CANCELLED ....COUPLING anyone?
Just wait for the desaster that BEING HUMAN will be!
Also ..to make your point about great shows with sport-storylines, maybe make sure your facts support your argument. Friday Night Lights sure is one of the best shows on TV, but it only still exists because of a deal with Direct TV....otherwise this gem would have been dead and buried years ago. And despite it being 1000 better than most of the other shot on TV it hardly gets any recognition award-wise and ratings-wise, which is a shame ..... because a lot of viewers would rather watch shitfests like Jersey Shore, Real Housewives or Biggest Loser. For the most part Us-tv still caters to the lowest common denominator and THAT is why the adaptions of great european shows suck on US-TV.
You're complaining about the very things the show is about.
We get it tonight in the UK, I'm not saying it will be the greatest show ever made, but you've certainly convinced me to watch it!
America can have Extras, what a overblown, selfserving, bloated waste of time the second series was.
'Everything we make is not uniformly bad and everything England makes is not disproportionately sparkling anymore'
You have that right. I'm British and most of our TV is terrible. Sure some good ones get chosen to be adapted in the US, but a lot of them are hardly stellar even.
The show might do ok over here actually - it even got a plug on the BBC main page as one of the most anticipated comedies of the year, for shame.
To those complaining about shows being "Americanized": the British "Anglicize" the shows they adapt, too. "Coupling" was an adaptation of "Friends." Adapting shows to a new culture isn't necessarily a bad thing, although I do agree sometimes they take it too far. And when the US made their own "Coupling," it was god-awful!!! And the first episode (the only one I saw) had nearly identical dialogue. Also, the first episodes of "The Office" (Am) used the same jokes and plot as the British version, and they are much clunkier than what the show became... when it developed it's own identity and - dare I say it - became Americanized.
I don't know if Coupling was a British remake of Friends, but the difference is the US version was shown in the UK untouched. Along with every other US show. A quote from this review says, "American people are very different from English people, and that has to be accounted for." But Brits have no problem airing and watching foreign shows. How do you think people learn about other countries and cultures?
Matt LeBlanc spent so many years playing simple-minded Joey Tribbiani that it's easy to assume he doesn't have any other tricks in his bag. That notion will be shattered once you get into this rich satire about British writers who come to America to adapt their BBC hit and are forced to cast ... Matt LeBlanc. You'd think we'd have had enough of self-referential series about showbiz, but the show sizzles, largely because LeBlanc is game to poke fun at himself. More important, "Friends" co-creator David Crane and real-life partner Jeffrey Klarik have written all seven episodes, clearly relishing the creative freedom and control they weren't allowed on their last collaboration, "The Class." Sunday's pilot is the weakest of the lot, but stick with it. 9:30 p.m. Sun., Showtime.
There are two tiers of networks that need to be taken into account, though. On the "over the air" networks the audience needs to be bigger and in a country with over 300 million people, things need to be adapted to a more Americanized vernacular and culture because they need larger audiences.
But BBC America, PBS and SyFy have all brought British programming in its original form to the US and those shows were successful by cable standards. Hell, we got the US version of "The Office" because the British one, as it ran on BBCA made that network from a little niche network into one of the bigger new basic cable outlets.
But I am happy to see that the best actor on Episodes is proving to be "dumb" Matt LeBlanc. And also, that there is such a thing as wooden, annoying British actors. Because that woman makes me want to poke her in the eye.
A remake of a foreign TV show!? YAY! We badly needed another, with the obvious successes of previous attempts! Nobody could resist!
You wonder what's wrong with Americans, and really, what do they have against everyone else? Sure, you remake a foreign language movie because Americans can't be bothered to read subtitles, look at funny-looking people and study the world custom and cultures... but remaking TV done in English? What's so different about English and Australian culture that it had to be Americanized, packed into badly wrapped Reese Pieces packages and fed to a public who still swears, more than 50 years later, that thanks to them the world needn't eat sauerkraut for dinner?
"Episodes" seem to recognize how actually frustrating it is for others to see your work torn apart and shredded to pieces by Hollywood, pokes fun at the situation and at Hollywood, but managed to somehow failed to convey to the public that this show is about them 'getting it'. It's a premise that MIGHT have worked after "The Office" aired, and maybe, just maybe after "Kath and Kim", but it's a little too late now after "Life on Mars" and the tens of remakes and re-remakes of "Pop Idol" and "Kitchen Nightmares" and "I'm a Celebrity! Get Me Out of Here!" all over... everywhere, really.
No one cares. And Jersey Shore's on its third season.
"American people are very different from English people, and that has to be accounted for. Anglophiles hardly make a dent in the American TV-watching population, even the ones who like smart, genuinely great shows, and you have to make these shows into something the audience on whole can relate to."
I've got to say, I find this article - and in particular the part I quoted above - completely misguided. There should be *more* non-American programmes, not less. Maybe if there was more British programme I wouldn't get asked if Paris was the capital of England or whether my accent was Scottish or Canadian (it's a generic Northern England one). Not to mention that in the UK we get American shows ALL THE TIME and don't feel the need to remake them (Friends, Ugly Betty, Vamp Diaries).
And I have yet to find a single show where the *whole* audience can relate to it. Maybe because populations are made up of a number of individuals and not a homogeneous, identikit mass.
"Everything we make is not uniformly bad and everything England makes is not disproportionately sparkling anymore, yet that dated ratio is the very backbone of this show's premise."
P.S. You will not find one Brit who claims our television is stellar. Our best stuff may be remade (Skins, Shameless, Being Human) but the emphasis is on *best.* There's a reason why it's not more than a handful of shows.
Kitty, do you assume that all European/UK television high-brow and smart? It isn't. There is just as much Jersey Shore-esque drivel there as there is over here... surprisingly (or not), we generally only hear of/adapt the buzzed-about, smart offerings. Yes, American television PTB tend to change their adapted shows so much that they don't work anymore... but I don't think this is because Americans are inherently dumb. I think that cultures are different, and trying to take something that works wonderfully in one culture doesn't always mean it will work well in another (in fact, we've learned it usually doesn't). The problem lies, it seems, in the greediness of the producers-- their unwillingness to actually create something new, timely, witty, and culturally-relevant rather than try to make a square peg fit into a round hole.
... Just my two cents, really.
I don't think the problem is that Britain and the US are inherently culturally different and comedy can't cross over without being changed (as has been pointed out, many US shows have been hugely popular in the UK), it's just that the show... isn't that funny.
From the look of the first episode, anyhow. There have been many a show where I disliked the pilot, but ended up loving it in general.
On that point about culture, the look of horror when Matt Leblanc was announced wasn't believable. Puh-lease, Friends was huge in the UK, and, as comedy writers, they would have known he was a great comic actor, whether or not they think he's suitable for the role.
I didn't quite get the ultra defensiveness of the review, though. Episodes is apparently saying US TV is crap and British is brilliant. All I got were some gentle pokes at Hollywood. On better British shows, you will see far more scathing attacks than that on our own culture.
And, to completely the miss the point of this whole debate, I am now curious what a US version of The Thick of It would be like.
I think Coupling isn't a Friends remake. Didn't they say that in the season 4 scene when they were all speaking to each other by phones and Steve says something about stopping because they are not in an American sitcom? Or did I just misunderstood the joke?
The premiere was bearable - it's not that painful to watch.
I think a lot of folks were missing the point and getting really hung up about the reviewer comments about why the US make changes to programs. I would also add that the Americans do it the most but also probably make more tv than anybody else. The Office was redone in France and Germany with even more changes to the Michael, Jim and Pam characters, they didn't just do the same scripts and translate the dialogue into French and German. And we could find other example too and talk about why these things are considered culturally necessary or just laziness of the culture but the point is it's completely out of date for the writers to not have expected changes. THis would have been funny if these comments were made when The Office was first adapted to American tv but now it just looks like those two lived under a rock.
Having said that, I was hoping that the show would have more to say about both cultures then what the review tells us. Matt LeBlanc appeared on Regis and Kelly to promote it and the clip they showed contained a joke about the tv show the Lincolns were selling resembling the plot of History Boys. Having just watched the first episode of Downton Abbey I got the same feeling of deja vu and I loved that joke.
If Coupling wasn't a British reworking of Friends, it was just a less funny rip off, then?
I stopped reading after referring to British people as English and the UK as England. There are other parts apparently...
After watching the first episode though, I didn't laugh once, didn't even smile once. That was pretty terrible especially for two people who did a great performance in Green Wing. Annoying camera's, storyline with a flashback which didn't really flow, pointless "babbling" or conversations that didnt go anywhere. I won't be watching again.
I might have been biased because I am a fan of Green Wing, thank you Hulu. But there is a lot of humor in wanting to substitute Richard Griffiths, Harry Potter's uncle, with Matt LeBlanc. And the whole process was funny, between the exec loving the show but never seeing it and the head of comedy not having a sense of humor.
The thing is, looking at Top Gear USA, horrible americanization is still being done.
BTW Coupling is not Friends in any way, shape or form. Jeff and Jane are not analogues for Brady Bunch characters.
Well said, Mel!
Coupling is actually an autobiographical work of Steven Moffat's and to some extent a sequel to 1993's Joking Apart. It is built with the main characters being a representation of him and his wife, whilst the others are archetypes of different figures in relationships, with Jeff, Oliver and Sally representing characters who are neurotic and lacking confidence, and Jane and Patrick representing people who are overconfident and self absorbed. In doing so it explores the nature and dynamics of how different relationships work.
Whilst their are some vague situational similarties with Friends, six friends often meeting in public meeting place, 3 men and 3 women, you could just as easily claim HIMYM to be a rip off of both.
What bugged me was that the British programme wasn't portrayed enough for us to really know what it was; we were just supposed to think it was great because it won awards and had a well-known thespian in it AND because of this we were supposed to care that Hollywood was apparently going to ruin it?! Yeah, no...
Do any of the major American networks air original British programmes before they get remade? Have they ever actually been tested out and given a chance in a good slot? American TV is all over our major British channels so its no wonder we've grown to accept it, like it and don't feel the need to remake it. Plus, we probably wouldn't have the money to do so...
Don't really get the gripes of the author. The whole remaking business IS annoying.
You don't need to spoon feed an audience everything culturally adapted. It's actually interesting (and probably good for people) to watch and live with stories from various cultures.
After all every other audience in the world is completely fine processing shows that feature folks from other nations. But Americans need to be "anglophile" to like a British tv-show? Ridiculous.
What also bugs me about the show, and about so many of the comments is this: its premise is that Sean & Bev agreed to come to LA precisely to do an American version of their show. Otherwise Merc could have just bought US rights to the UK version. So, the fact that they are shocked, shocked that the US version is going to be different, makes them look unbelievably naive or that they had a really bad agent writing their contract. That and the clumsy stereotyping made the pilot really hard to watch.
I've seen 5 episodes of this show just to give it a fair shot, but it's horrible. I'm a Big fan of the two British leads (Green Wing, Black Books, etc..), and while not much of a fan of Friends or LaBlanc, was more than open-minded to him playing a Larry David-esque version of himself. The one and only real problem is this show's writing is just awful. These characters are so 2 dimensional, the 'gags' so cheap, and the plot that plays out is so foolish that I just can't at all believe any of it.
A running gag with the security guard the neeever recognizes them? So why don't they just sigh and hand them i.d.? Because this is written like a cheesy 80's network sit-com -'plus swearing', as if that makes it 'premium cable worthy'. It doesn't.
The premise of an 'implied' classy, dry, erudite British comedy ('History Boys' the sit-com) slowly 'adapted' into a complete U.S. bastardization could be great, but they handle this in the silliest way possible at EVERY turn, and no plot points beyond that premise add an depth or humor either.
Oh, and like most here admit, LeBlanc does a decent job. Frankly, everyone on the show does a decent job. It just doesn't seem like it because they're all performing exactly what's written in these stinking, hack-job scripts they're given. The difference on screen is just that LeBlanc's character is the only one that seems at all like an actual real person-and just barely.
This show is an utter shame compared to so many really good modern cable comedies (Curb Your Enthus., Entourage (though not recent seasons), Weeds, Sex and the City, US of Tara, Extras, etc...)
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